OT Yankees Giradi Fired

[UCweCONN]

Great stat: Only 19% of teams that fired their managers won more games the next year....

 

[Waquoit]

We need to bring Donnie Ballgame back to the Bronx where he belongs. He's got the experience as a manager he didn't have ten years ago. If he's available then the timing is perfect. If he's not available then my second choice is John Farrell. He managed in a big market and won. I think he would be a great fit. There's too many risks with a coach with no managerial experience.

That would be too good to be true. You can't be a Yankee fan.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

If they listened to you Cashman would be the manager.

I would have no problem with the Front Office making the in game decisions.

 

[Ewekon]

This is old news now. Who cares anymore? The world series is on and the yankees are not im itt again. Uconn has a game. The guy won once in ten years with hiuge payrolls. Now a non story.

Mods, how about moving this to the Pro Sports board? Yankee threads are tedious anyway.

 

[MSGSeven]

I would have no problem with the Front Office making the in game decisions.

Good thing your name's not Steinbrenner

 

[whaler11]

I would have no problem with the Front Office making the in game decisions.

Pro tip: Don’t talk baseball on the internet if you know what you are talking about.

Internet baseball talk makes the BY football and basketball boards look like the Ivy League.

 

[zyron]

Pro tip: Don’t talk baseball on the internet if you know what you are talking about.

Internet baseball talk makes the BY football and basketball boards look like the Ivy League.

What do you mean, other than it is against the rules to communicate during the game. I guess you could just have the front office sit in the dugout.

 

[whaler11]

What do you mean, other than it is against the rules to communicate during the game. I guess you could just have the front office sit in the dugout.

I wasn't talking about his post I was talking about discourse on the internet about baseball in general.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Pro tip: Don’t talk baseball on the internet if you know what you are talking about.

Internet baseball talk makes the BY football and basketball boards look like the Ivy League.

It's almost like watching two different games. I got really into the saber movement around Moneyball (as I'm sure plenty did) and then reading Fangraphs daily for the better part of a decade.

I will say my gripe with going too analytics based is the dismissal of the clutch gene. I don't necessarily think some people are born to perform better in high leverage spots but I do think some players over a large enough sample size are more likely to perform at or near their career averages (Jeter, Ortiz) where as other players simply feel too much pressure. Very tough to put that into situations or use it to predict anything though.

 

[Deadrody]

I hate the Yankees so that isn't coming from a homer. His team overachieved this year and he had to guide them through getting rid of the overpaid, over the hill players that started to handcuff the team. Cashman started building the farm system again and now when it starts to pay dividends and they surpass expectations he more or less gets canned

Raw deal after he's been a career Yankee and won a WS as a coach

Absolute nonsense. There is no such thing as a job someone "deserves" that they've had for a decade. Cashman determined that a young team needs a different kind of personality as manager. Nothing more. Girardi's contract expired, he was not fired. You can argue all you want about whether Cashman's assessment of his team is correct, but the last thing going on here is Girardi getting a raw deal. Yeah, they won the WS in 2009, but they had the same basic roster after that and didn't do much of anything with it. And for the record, acquaint yourself with a team's pythagorean record. Joe's Yankees actually UNDERPERFORMED this year. Expectations are meaningless.

 

[Deadrody]

This is the Yankee way. In the end , They eat their winning managers.

Right. Which is why Girardi had the job for a decade. Think, McFly. Think.

 

[David 76]

That would be too good to be true. You can't be a Yankee fan.

Well, Donny is no Bobby Valentine. But other than that he's pretty good.

 

[Waquoit]

Well, Donny is no Bobby Valentine. But other than that he's pretty good.

True, Bobby V took a team to the WS. Mattingly's teams get better after he leaves town. You could look it up. But I hear he's a nice guy.

 

[Deadrody]

Irrelevant. It won't be Don Mattingly. You can take that to the bank.

 

[Scoe]

Irrelevant. It won't be Don Mattingly. You can take that to the bank.

Yeah seeing that Donnie is returning to the Mariners its kind of impossible for the Yankees to hire him.

 

[Deadrody]

Yeah seeing that Donnie is returning to the Mariners its kind of impossible for the Yankees to hire him.

Well, true, but there is still a distinct possibility that Jeter / Denbo decide to move on from Mattingly. Even then, he's not ending up with the Yankees.

 

[David 76]

I'm hoping they hire that Joseph Girardi. Best man out there.