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OT Tom Cruise rant

CL82 said:
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(FWIW, I'm hear it to "I wanna rock" probably because he was basically riffing off the intro.)

"I've got a good mind to slap your face."

(FWIW, It sounds to me like it was initially a tantrum and then he decided to go into a TC character for a rant to cover it up.)
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BigErnMcCracken said:
I'd say he's a great movie star and occasionally a great actor. He's sort of like Clooney to me in that you're always conscious of the fact that it's him when he's on screen, and he gets by mostly on charisma and charm.

I sort of wish he'd ditch the whole Scientology thing, reckon with who he is really is, and maybe do something interesting for a change.
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superjohn said:
I know. He's a great movie star but I don't consider him a great actor. I enjoy a lot of his movies and he has been really good in a few roles but I always still feel like I'm watching Tom Cruise. There are other big stars who are chameleons and I forget I'm watching them. Daniel Day-Lewis, Gary Oldman, Denzel, Christian Bale, Benicio del Toro, Ed Norton, Sean Penn, McConaughey, Jake Gyllenhaal etc.
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I’m not saying he’s the greatest or that he’s versatile. He’s kind of like John Wayne in that he’s always playing a different version of the same character, but it’s a believable, iconic character and the movies are memorable and iconic in large part because of him.

Jimmy Stewart was a better actor but John Wayne is the icon.

He’s far from my favorite, but he’s great at what he does IMO.
 
8893 said:
I’m not saying he’s the greatest or that he’s versatile. He’s kind of like John Wayne in that he’s always playing a different version of the same character, but it’s a believable, iconic character and the movies are memorable and iconic in large part because of him.

Jimmy Stewart was a better actor but John Wayne is the icon.

He’s far from my favorite, but he’s great at what he does IMO.
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He's a complete lunatic but I'm a big Cruise guy. Can't wait for Top Gun 2. I made my wife sit through the one with Cameron Diaz where he plays a spy or some _____ and crashes a plane in a cornfield because it was on cable a few months ago. I kept saying "Man . . . . I love Cruise" every ten minutes and she thought I was insane. An objectively stupid movie but there's something about the guy I find compulsively watchable.
 
Cruise doesn’t let you down, often. He takes the big roles and produces. However, I can’t think of a single role where I’ve thought he’s a great actor. Believe it or not I think his best acting was in the first half of War of the Worlds. He made a good deadbeat dad. But I love the big films he stars in. Collateral was great, he was okay. Same with Minority Report, Vanilla Sky, and the freaky Eyes Wide Shut - which I also loved but again nothing incredible from him. In fact, Nichole was better. Interview, the Firm, Born on 4th, Far and Away, Color of Money, A Few Good Men, Rain Man, Top Gun, Risky Business... all great, big flicks but nothing about his acting says wow. Yet, he’s in these hugely successful films all the time. He rarely lets you down.
 
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Stlh8L8ner said:
I've never found his 'angry voice' to be very intimidating. Especially when he's really loud... it's almost as annoying as Boeheim's voice. And face.
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He learned early on, when it comes to someone's livelihood -

 
FourRings said:
Cruise doesn’t let you down, often. He takes the big roles and produces. However, I can’t think of a single role where I’ve thought he’s a great actor. Believe it or not I think his best acting was in the first half of War of the Worlds. He made a good deadbeat dad. But I love the big films he stars in. Collateral was great, he was okay. Same with Minority Report, Vanilla Sky, and the freaky Eyes Wide Shut - which I also loved but again nothing incredible from him. In fact, Nichole was better. Interview, the Firm, Born on 4th, Far and Away, Color of Money, A Few Good Men, Rain Man, Top Gun, Risky Business... all great, big flicks but nothing about his acting says wow. Yet, he’s in these hugely successful films all the time. He rarely lets you down.
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Don't forget this classic!

 
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I don’t care about his rants or views. I’m very excited to see the new Top Gun. Whenever it gets released.
 
superjohn said:
He's already taken over a Rome hospital and created a scene where they're filming and getting in the way of Covid patients and staff. The guy doesn't give a s*** about anyone other than Tom Cruise.
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He is right, he is wrong, he is a crazy nutjob, he is awesome, he's in a cult....all are true. He has some damn good movies. I enjoy them. I also have seen a lot of scientology docs and most stuff is really tough to ignore. Pretty ugly stuff. A Few Good Men is one of my favorite movies and my name is not Jon Rothstein. His personal life is mostly gross but anyone that thinks he is not a good actor is letting their beliefs bleed into their opinion. The man can act. Not just an action star. He may be reprehensible but he has chops.
 
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The biggest 80's stars. Mel Gibson...nuts, Cruise...nuts, Harrison Ford..has crashed like 5 choppers and 3 airplanes. People always judged musicians by their personal lives. I liked Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath and AC/DC in high school and people thought I was crazy. Lol
 
UCfor3 said:
The biggest 80's stars. Mel Gibson...nuts, Cruise...nuts, Harrison Ford..has crashed like 5 choppers and 3 airplanes. People always judged musicians by their personal lives. I liked Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath and AC/DC in high school and people thought I was crazy. Lol
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"There is a fine line between genius and insanity" was a quote I read somewhere. Not saying these actors are geniuses, but not saying they are not insane either. Talent in one area of life, deficits in other areas.

I think Brando was to say the least, eccentric.

On the other hand, if you believe the stories, some celebrities have balanced and solid lives, like Kevin Bacon and Kyra Sedgwick, a married couple who have been together for years.

Just my take.
 
UCfor3 said:
He is right, he is wrong, he is a crazy nutjob, he is awesome, he's in a cult....all are true. He has some damn good movies. I enjoy them. I also have seen a lot of scientology docs and most stuff is really tough to ignore. Pretty ugly stuff. A Few Good Men is one of my favorite movies and my name is not Jon Rothstein. His personal life is mostly gross but anyone that thinks he is not a good actor is letting their beliefs bleed into their opinion. The man can act. Not just an action star. He may be reprehensible but he has chops.
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I liked him in "The Firm" with Jean Tripplehorn and Gene Hackman. He did seem to portray a young and naïve lawyer caught up in the glitz of the initial interview, and then conniving to get out of the situation.

Arthur Hill was in that film, and I always liked him from Law and Order.

I thought he was good in "A Few Good Men." He at the end, despite wanting to have the case pleaded out, had the guts or bravado to confront the Commander. Not sure how often in real life, a witness just cracks like that.
 
I've actually never seen Top Gun, Days of Thunder, any of the Mission Impossible films or a dozen others like Far and Away or All the Right Moves.

The first film I recall seeing him in was Taps, which I loved; as a freshman in high school it hit me at the right time.

As a junior when Risky Business came out, it could not have had more impact on me and my krewe. When my parents left for a three-week road trip that summer and the next and I had the house to myself, it was pretty obvious what example I was following then.

As a law student I was totally absorbed in The Firm as a book, and I thought the movie did a very good job of following it; and A Few Good Men is one of my favorite legal movies of all time. Everyone focuses on the classic exchange with Nicholson but there are so many great little scenes and nuances that he executes so well. My favorite is the scene where he is holding the bat while walking past his closet when he gets the epiphany about Santiago's clothes still being in his closet.

I've always thought that his role in Rain Man was probably pretty close to how he is in real life. Jerry McGuire is probably his most complete role and he really nailed it imo.

His bit part in Tropic Thunder was also a nice change and may be the best comparison to the rant that is the subject of the OP.
 
Improviser said:
"There is a fine line between genius and insanity" was a quote I read somewhere. Not saying these actors are geniuses, but not saying they are not insane either. Talent in one area of life, deficits in other areas.

I think Brando was to say the least, eccentric.

On the other hand, if you believe the stories, some celebrities have balanced and solid lives, like Kevin Bacon and Kyra Sedgwick, a married couple who have been together for years.

Just my take.
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Well, Kevin Bacon is the center of the universe, but he's a lousy forking softball player.

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superjohn said:
I know. He's a great movie star but I don't consider him a great actor. I enjoy a lot of his movies and he has been really good in a few roles but I always still feel like I'm watching Tom Cruise. There are other big stars who are chameleons and I forget I'm watching them. Daniel Day-Lewis, Gary Oldman, Denzel, Christian Bale, Benicio del Toro, Ed Norton, Sean Penn, McConaughey, Jake Gyllenhaal etc.
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Agree about the chameleon take. John Malkovich. I like all of these actors and for some great actors I think it's more about their true personas than acting skill. Robert De Niro is always Robert De Niro, and he's also kind of losing his mind. Shia LeBeouf is up there in both talent and nutty. Denzel is a great star and a lot of it is because he is just a cool and I always know I'm watching Denzel.

Then I find this and it just basically lists all the popular actors.

Actors who can act "Convincingly" outside their own persona - IMDb
 
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glastonbury50 said:
Christian bale has a better freak out recording.
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He's also a better actor; but again, not nearly the icon or star that Cruise is.

I've probably said this before on the Entertainment board, but I think Bale is one of the most underrated actors in history. Another one who is apparently very tightly wound in real life and very intense.

Great range. Among the best imo.
 
8893 said:
He's also a better actor; but again, not nearly the icon or star that Cruise is.

I've probably said this before on the Entertainment board, but I think Bale is one of the most underrated actors in history. Another one who is apparently very tightly wound in real life and very intense.

Great range. Among the best imo.
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Agreed. Underrated film of his was American Psycho when he was fairly unknown. I had to read the book for a literature class in college. Professor was a little wacky... Have to watch it a few times but I still use quotes from that movie on probably a weekly basis.
 
My son lives in and has a business in Jackson Hole Wyoming where Harrison Ford has a ranch and has done a few projects for him. They're on a first name basis and a few summers ago which is the only time to visit we were in one of the best restaurants in town when he came in and saw Josh and came right over to are table with his wife, we invited them to dine with us and they were super nice. So my wife was in awe of him and couldn't take her eyes off of him which I noticed. I leaned over and told her you know I could kick the shit out him as I'm or was an ex-athlete standing 6'4 and a solid 220. This of course was said in fun as he is short fella. Everytime I hear his name i remember that day. Also always liked his movies. lol.
 
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8893 said:
He's also a better actor; but again, not nearly the icon or star that Cruise is.

I've probably said this before on the Entertainment board, but I think Bale is one of the most underrated actors in history. Another one who is apparently very tightly wound in real life and very intense.

Great range. Among the best imo.
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I watched the entire movie The Fighter and had no idea Christian Bale was in the movie until I saw the credits at the end.

Yes, he is incredibly talented.
 
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8893 said:
I don’t mean that the rant was great acting. I mean that he is a great actor. Total whack job but gives his all to his job from all appearances. I loved many of his movies because of how good he was in his role.
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It took a long time for people to realize this, but Tropic Thunder should have put any doubt to rest.

He is also a huge producer in Hollywood. He can do this rant because it’s his production.
 
Kolumbo said:
Agree about the chameleon take. John Malkovich. I like all of these actors and for some great actors I think it's more about their true personas than acting skill. Robert De Niro is always Robert De Niro, and he's also kind of losing his mind. Shia LeBeouf is up there in both talent and nutty. Denzel is a great star and a lot of it is because he is just a cool and I always know I'm watching Denzel.

Then I find this and it just basically lists all the popular actors.

Actors who can act "Convincingly" outside their own persona - IMDb
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Nicholson is #2 on that list? No way. He is right there on top of the opposite list of guys who are always putting themselves into the character. He may be the least chameleon great actor of them all.
 
HuskyHawk said:
It took a long time for people to realize this, but Tropic Thunder should have put any doubt to rest.

He is also a huge producer in Hollywood. He can do this rant because it’s his production.
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What was he ranting about?
 
FourRings said:
Cruise doesn’t let you down. Interview, the Firm, Born on 4th, Far and Away, Color of Money, A Few Good Men, Rain Man, Top Gun, Risky Business... all great, big flicks.
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Corrected it for you.
 
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