OT the Browns win a game

[Waquoit]

only time will tell if he keeps the jonny out of him and stays focused

By jonny I assume you mean liquor.

 

[huskiepride]

By jonny I assume you mean liquor.

 

[intlzncster]

I don't think there is any fear of that, Johnny is a special kind of idiot. Also, Mayfield is just a lot better than him.

Somebody was claiming that on Draft night here. I don't remember who.

But they are so different. Their style of play wasn't even all that alike. People compared them so much because they were both electric playmakers, gamers, and cocky . But playing style and measurables? totally different:

• Baker was more clinical than Manziel. He read the defense, went through his progressions, and worked the offense. Yeah, he was capable of individual brilliance, but that was more of a last resort kinda thing.
• Manziel on the other hand, by his own admission, did exactly zero film study in college. He was blessed with all world adlib ability, and used it as often as possible. He also benefited from some serious stud receivers who could go up and get the ball when he hucked up a long jump ball.
• Baker's far more accurate with the football. Throws a much heavier ball than Manziel. This is one of the main reasons I think he'll be good. You saw it if you were watching last night. He's young, so he's throwing balls he shouldn't, but a lot of them made it through those very tight windows.
• Baker's also significantly bigger/stronger and a better over all athlete. He's jacked, while Manziel looks like a string bean with his shirt off.

As far as personality goes I said it above:

• Baker was (self admittedly) over exuberant (read cocky) college kid. He just needed to grow up.
• He's had to grind for everything he's got, transfer, walk on, fight for his spot etc.
• He had all the pressure on him in college and he back it up.

• Manziel was a strange combination: he was an absurdly talented silver spoon rich kid who had everything handed to him his whole life.
• At the same time he had some Texas wildman in him a la Charlie Tweeder from Varsity Blues.
• Also turns out he has bipolar issues, which people might scoff at, but certainly does explain a lot of his post college behavior.

 

[MadDogRevival]

Also turns out he has bipolar issues, which people might scoff at, but certainly does explain a lot of his post college behavior.

I'm very curious as to whether Johnny will ever publicly acknowledge that he acted like an immature brat with addiction and self-control issues.

 

[uconnfan68]

If the Giants passed on Mayfield I wouldve been really pissed, Darnold is gonna throw a lot of picks this year. Rumor has it that the Pats wouldve tried to trade up for the number 2 pick to take Mayfield.

Idiots for letting Jimmy G go.

 

[Mr. French]

He's half Brees and half Brett Favre. Has the same fearless streak that Favre had and similar ability to run, which Brees lacks. But he is accurate like Brees.

Yeah I don’t think Brees is a great comparison except for their height. His playing style isn’t really Brees, you make a good point.

I love mayfield, I must admit. I wasn’t sure he’d be great but I am rooting for him from across Lake Erie.

 

[Mr. French]

The question now for the Browns is, do you stick with Baker going forward? I would.

And I'm a Tyrod fan. Guy's played on snow teams. Last season, he even lead the moribund Bills to the playoffs for the first time in 18 years or so. His thanks? Getting traded.

Eaaaasy on the moribund, and there is WAY more to him getting traded then just a straight football QB comparison...but I agree that I like him and he’s a good dude who’s easy to root for.