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OT: The Brow requests a trade

Lefty2one said:
A bit amusing by comparison's sake...

EDIT: I don't know why the hell it's embedding the video instead of linking to the article. Anyway, Toronto is throwing their hat into the ring...

NBA - Sportsnet.ca

On paper, it seems like the Raptors have enough to put together a compelling package. Pascal Siakam, the emerging star who has a legitimate chance of winning the NBA’s Most Improved Player award, figures to be the starting point in negotiations. OG Anunoby is an additional young piece with intriguing potential, and point guard Delon Wright would be another name to float along. Draft-pick considerations would also likely be included as the Pelicans look to the future, and Toronto has veterans like Serge Ibaka and Jonas Valanciunas that would need to be added to balance salaries — a necessity in NBA trades.
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I’d love Toronto to go all in.
 
Deepster said:
You really think he's a "generational" player? I guess I just don't see it. He reminds me of Tracy McGrady. Looks great. Really talented. But just not going to put a team on his back and make them a winner. Take guys like Dirk or Iverson or Garnett. I just feel like Davis sleepwalks his way into his box score every night.
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It is his defense that separates him from what you are stating.
 
Toronto’s problem is they don’t have many intriguing young pieces outside of siakam. Wright and OG are nice role players/backups, but we know New Orleans is going to want multiple young/talented prospects and picks. Davis to Toronto would definitely shake the NBA though.
 
Matrim55 said:
Ok, I've really talked myself into the Knicks having the best package to offer – contingent upon them doing some pre-agency negotiation w/ KD (who is a free agent, and there's no way he's going back to GSW).
  • Kristaps
  • Knox
  • Trier
  • Lee (more on him in a minute)
  • 2019 1st (top 3 guaranteed at the moment)
That trumps anything the Lakers or even the Celtics could offer, largely because Porzingis is better than any of the available players on their rosters, partially because Knox, Trier & the 2019 pick are all young players with upside, and partially because Lee actually gives the Pels flexibility to go get a second-level star who wants out.

As it stands, New Orleans have two significant expirings on next year's roster in Solomon Hill ($13.3m) and E'Twuan Moore (8.7m, but I think he'll be traded in the next week). Getting Lee would give them flexibility and the chance to match numbers for any team who wants to get rid of a big contract.

They need to do something like this because they're absolutely not going to get any high-level player in free agency, and if things go right they'll be too good to get a top pick w/ their own. But having $25m of expirings and a couple of good young players would put them in the mix for guys like Wiggins or Otto Porter.

If I was NOP I would absolutely tell the Knicks and Celtics to sit tight and refuse to deal with the Lakers until the summer. I hope that's what happens.
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As a Knicks fan I want no part of that deal
 
I read they can’t trsdr trier so it’s really Knox the high first l, Mitchell and the Frenchman plus cap fodder
 
Brooklyn’s package on 538 is at least interesting too
 
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And don’t sleep on Denver coming up with a real package
 
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tzznandrew said:
It has to be because he knows that he can just sign him in 2020.
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I totally hear that. My first offer post ITT was relatively conservative as well but nowhere close to what was reported.

There are reports that NO really don’t want to trade AD to LA in the first place, and so you may worry that with such a pathetic first offer, the deal comes off the table completely?

Magic must be very confident in his chances going up against Boston and NY, especially given NY entering the fray as a team who could make a deal right now unlike Boston (whose offer NO would be stupid to not wait for this summer)

Honestly, unless this is a part of some multi-team trade where NO ends up with some star-level player, I don’t see any deal being made in the next few days; so I guess Magic figures there isn’t a point in making some huge offer now

Edit now that I look, the Knicks have a 14% chance —good as anybody— at getting the Zion pick; you send that, along with whatever reasonable combination of Mudiay, Hardaway, Knox, Trier, Burke, and Kanter the Pelicans want, I could see something happening in the coming days. Comes down to whether or not NY thinks they can keep AD around after this and next year.

What LA does have is that its front office isn’t a joke (quite the opposite) like NY, and AD’s dad isn’t weary of LA management like he is Boston’s
 
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I'd have to say that this drama goes that the best basketball player in recent years IS Jordan. LeBron will be chasing Jordan's ghost forever. Should have just shut up and been himself. His own friends even seem to be sick of his self proclaimed greatest of all time crap.

Modern pro athlete's vocabulary:

"At the end of the day...legacy!"
 
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Butch said:
I'd have to say that this drama goes that the best basketball player in recent years IS Jordan. LeBron will be chasing Jordan's ghost forever. Should have just shut up and been himself. His own friends even seem to be sick of his self proclaimed greatest of all time crap.

Modern pro athlete's vocabulary:

"At the end of the day...legacy!"
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Um... cool.
 
Huskyforlife said:
Um... cool.
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It's not. It's sad.

Jordan also having his coach helped. Similar to what we see now with the Patriots. Jordan was surrounded by role players, thus, the high PPG.
 
tzznandrew said:
It has to be because he knows that he can just sign him in 2020.
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Paul George was supposed to be a Lakers lock. Then he got traded to OK City and stayed.
Nothing is guaranteed.
I think what happens is the Celtics get him after the season. Between young players and draft picks, no one could offer what Boston can and Ainge has lusted over AD for a long time and has been building a pile of assets just for this very reason. If AD is traded to Boston I'd imagine Kyrie signs long term and then we see if the Brow likes playing in Boston and signs a long term as well.
Who knows though. Should be a fascinating offseason.
 
The Viking said:
Paul George was supposed to be a Lakers lock. Then he got traded to OK City and stayed.
Nothing is guaranteed.
I think what happens is the Celtics get him after the season. Between young players and draft picks, no one could offer what Boston can and Ainge has lusted over AD for a long time and has been building a pile of assets just for this very reason. If AD is traded to Boston I'd imagine Kyrie signs long term and then we see if the Brow likes playing in Boston and signs a long term as well.
Who knows though. Should be a fascinating offseason.
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Keep dreaming
 
Butch said:
It's not. It's sad.

Jordan also having his coach helped. Similar to what we see now with the Patriots. Jordan was surrounded by role players, thus, the high PPG.
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Lol role players? His team won like two fewer games the year he “retired” after the first three-peat

...not too far off Jimmy G and Jacoby Brissett going 3-1 for Brady
 
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Rocktheworld said:
Lol role players? His team won like two fewer games the year he “retired” after the first three-peat
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The disrespect pippen got despite that season is absurd. Dude is criminally underrated cause of his teammate
 
the Q said:
The disrespect pippen got despite that season is absurd. Dude is criminally underrated cause of his teammate
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People act like an all-world defender averaging 20/6/6 in his prime was a roleplayer all the time. It's insane.
 
Butch said:
It's not. It's sad.

Jordan also having his coach helped. Similar to what we see now with the Patriots. Jordan was surrounded by role players, thus, the high PPG.
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The majority of all time players have great coaching. Montana/Walsh, Marino/Shula, Russell/Auerbach, etc etc

players make a coach more than the other way around.

If LeBron wasn't a coach killer, maybe he would have surpassed MJ.
 
intlzncster said:
If LeBron wasn't a coach killer, maybe he would have surpassed mj.
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David Blatt was on borrowed time coaching an all-time great anyway. That’s the only coach LeBron has successfully had fired. Not sure where “coach killer” is coming from, nor how his player-coach relationships have kept him from catching MJ

I can’t imagine how great he would be with a great coach
 
Rocktheworld said:
David Blatt was on borrowed time coaching an all-time great anyway. That’s the only coach LeBron has successfully had fired.
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Mike Brown.

I'll be shocked if Walton lasts.

The only reason Lue was coach was because LeBron could walk all over him. Lue was LeBron's selection.

The only guy who really managed was Spoelstra and a lot of that had to do w Riley's gravitas. He's also a very good coach.

Not sure where “coach killer” is coming from, nor how his player-coach relationships have kept him from catching MJ
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Mainly because most people seem to think it.
 
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