OT: Summer movie thread

[CL82]

When family business becomes deadly...his only job is REVENGE

No Swayze = no Roadhouse. Petoowie, I spit on your faux sequel.

 

[Husky25]

Apparently he dropped out over creative differences. My thought is that he had a difference in opinion that the movie should have even been made.

No Swayze = no Roadhouse. Petoowie, I spit on your faux sequel.

 

[Jay-Bone]

Seriously?!?!?! There's a Point Break remake?!?!? Has Hollywood officially run out of ideas? Point Break is in the Enjoyably Bad Movie Hall of Fame. There is no reason whatsoever to remake it. None.

They're also making another Conan...and I believe Beverly Hills Cop. With Arnold and Eddie respectively. Should be interesting to see how they utilize the aged actors, especially with Arnold. I suppose if they can nail it with Mad Max, they can do it with both of these two.

 

[G0UCONN]

With all the sequels, remakes and of course turning comic books and TV shows into movies, they may be nearing the point where Hollywood has officially run out of ideas for new "stand alone" movies...

 

[mets1090]

With all the sequels, remakes and of course turning comic books and TV shows into movies, they may be nearing the point where Hollywood has officially run out of ideas for new "stand alone" movies...

Your action movies, your romance movies, etc... they're always going to be a slightly different version of something that came before it. Studios have just realized that it's easier to reboot things and make a ton of money off of nostalgia and a new generation that has never seen the originals.

I guess we should just be tankful that people tend to hate movie remasters. Otherwise we'd see the same thing that's going on in the video game industry.

 

[Jay-Bone]

Your action movies, your romance movies, etc... they're always going to be a slightly different version of something that came before it. Studios have just realized that it's easier to reboot things and make a ton of money off of nostalgia and a new generation that has never seen the originals.

I guess we should just be tankful that people tend to hate movie remasters. Otherwise we'd see the same thing that's going on in the video game industry.

I remember taking a film class at Uconn and the professor stating something like that there are really only 4 or 5 different basic plotlines. In a way generally humans like what's easy to grasp and they know they already like. That's why I find it refreshing when something like Inception comes along.

 

[ZooCougar]

Your action movies, your romance movies, etc... they're always going to be a slightly different version of something that came before it. Studios have just realized that it's easier to reboot things and make a ton of money off of nostalgia and a new generation that has never seen the originals.

I guess we should just be tankful that people tend to hate movie remasters. Otherwise we'd see the same thing that's going on in the video game industry.

There are definitely some good original works out there. Some that were really profitable as well. There just aren't as many great directors as we would like. And the really good ones aren't manufacturing movies on a Marvel/Disney like timeline. I think that's why I like Christopher Nolan so much. He comes out with something every few years and I always mark it on my calendar. Inception, Interstellar, The Prestige. All good stuff.

I know "The Dark Knight" is a comic book, but he set standard with that movie that will be difficult to beat. I am a sucker for Marvel Movies but they are never satisfying to me, even if they have some real talent working on them.

I love the Coen Brothers movies as well.

Another original idea that was really successful was "Pacific Rim". I really wish he wouldn't make a sequel to that. It was a good one as a stand alone.

Hollywood delving into the comics world was initially something I really liked. Now it just seems lazy to me. They mine the mountains of source material, they already have the concept in story board because talented writers and artists have done the heavy lifting of character development. Occasionally you get the perfect actor to make a mediocre character like Tony Stark something really great, but the end result is something really unexceptional.

Guardians of the Galaxy is interesting to me because it was basically a comic that was based on the movie. In my humble opinion, The new Guardians are almost nothing like the originals. They basically engineered the comic based on the movie concept. So it's basically a comic book movie that was somewhat original, and was actually pretty satisfying.

But in general, the movie industry using comics is brazen laziness, because they know that the vast majority of moviegoers have never read the comic books.

 

[ZooCougar]

They're also making another Conan...and I believe Beverly Hills Cop. With Arnold and Eddie respectively. Should be interesting to see how they utilize the aged actors, especially with Arnold. I suppose if they can nail it with Mad Max, they can do it with both of these two.

I see what you are saying, but technically Mad Max: Fury Road isn't a reboot or even a remake. It has the same director so the movie felt authentic and in line with the others stylistically.

I forgot the Mad Max actor's name but he did a good job of playing the character and not trying to be Mel Gibson as Mad Max.

 

[mets1090]

I see what you are saying, but technically Mad Max: Fury Road isn't a reboot or even a remake. It has the same director so the movie felt authentic and in line with the others stylistically.

I forgot the Mad Max actor's name but he did a good job of playing the character and not trying to be Mel Gibson as Mad Max.

Tom Hardy? Haven't seen it yet but I assume he's the main character.

 

[mets1090]

There are definitely some good original works out there. Some that were really profitable as well. There just aren't as many great directors as we would like.

I actually had some stuff typed up about this helping the video game comparison. Just as the vast majority of major video games either suck or are just lazy, movies are the same way. We have to rely on a handful of good studios/developers to create good video games and a handful of awesome film directors to create original films that actually contribute to the advancement of the medium. In the same way I know I can rely on Dog and Rockstar to produce good games, I know I can rely on Nolan, Tarantino, Scorcese, etc. to produce good movies. And just as those game studios tend to focus on one title for like 18 months at a time, those directors don't just spew movies out every year.

I think that 30 years from now, even though this will probably be known as the comic movie era, we'll still have plenty of classic films too because those types of great directors aren't gone. Their output is just vastly outnumbered. And it's always been that way. It's not like 30 years ago most movies were classics. We just only talk about the classics because the rest are forgettable.


Also just as a final defense of Marvel/Disney, while it is easy for them to just churn out these movies because back stories are already written, I don't see it as a bad thing that they are exposing people to comic literature. As long as the quality of the films remains at a high level relative to other action movies, I'm fine with it. They're going to start dipping eventually (a big part of the franchise will die when Robert Downey Jr. decides to take the suit off). I just hope they cut it off soon enough to stop that from diminishing how good they originally were.

 

[ZooCougar]

I actually had some stuff typed up about this helping the video game comparison. Just as the vast majority of major video games either suck or are just lazy, movies are the same way. We have to rely on a handful of good studios/developers to create good video games and a handful of awesome film directors to create original films that actually contribute to the advancement of the medium. In the same way I know I can rely on Dog and Rockstar to produce good games, I know I can rely on Nolan, Tarantino, Scorcese, etc. to produce good movies. And just as those game studios tend to focus on one title for like 18 months at a time, those directors don't just spew movies out every year.

I think that 30 years from now, even though this will probably be known as the comic movie era, we'll still have plenty of classic films too because those types of great directors aren't gone. Their output is just vastly outnumbered. And it's always been that way. It's not like 30 years ago most movies were classics. We just only talk about the classics because the rest are forgettable.


Also just as a final defense of Marvel/Disney, while it is easy for them to just churn out these movies because back stories are already written, I don't see it as a bad thing that they are exposing people to comic literature. As long as the quality of the films remains at a high level relative to other action movies, I'm fine with it. They're going to start dipping eventually (a big part of the franchise will die when Robert Downey Jr. decides to take the suit off). I just hope they cut it off soon enough to stop that from diminishing how good they originally were.

I wish Hideo Kojima would make a Metal Gear more than once a decade.

 

[mets1090]

I wish Hideo Kojima would make a Metal Gear more than once a decade.

Or ever again after Phantom Pain.

 

[ZooCougar]

Or ever again after Phantom Pain.

You don't want him to make them anymore? If someone could figure out how to make MGS into a movie that isn't absurd then I would love to see it.

I don't know what it is about those games. Been hooked since MGS, it's so weird and Japanese but beyond that it's one of the few games that always make you feel like you are playing in a movie. Between the homages to James Bond and the Fistfull of Dollars movies it's just a great series. It's literally the only reason I bought a PS3.

 

[mets1090]

I think I'm actually more disappointed about them continuing the series without him than I am about him not making more.

 

[ZooCougar]

I think I'm actually more disappointed about them continuing the series without him than I am about him not making more.

We'll see. It seems like he has given up after every installment. But he always comes back. Just like Revolver Ocelot! haha

 

[ZooCougar]

I think I'm actually more disappointed about them continuing the series without him than I am about him not making more.

Finally got around to Phantom Pain. Not even halfway through it. It's basically what Assassin's Creed wishes it was. I gave up on that franchise because despite the interesting story, the gameplay was too repetitive.

MGS5 has "free roam" but it doesn't suck. I wish the story was better and I am not crazy about the base building meta game, but it's pretty much a great game.