Well Calhoun isn't as charitable as Bernie Fine. Giving his wife to players to use who he molests little boys in the basement.
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Well Calhoun isn't as charitable as Bernie Fine. Giving his wife to players to use who he molests little boys in the basement.
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What problems? The whole thing was legal back then. No problems at all from Baltimore Parks & Rec. Q: was Boeheim doing the same as Gary Williams back then? Forking over F4 tix the to Pump Brothers and buying their "newsletter" for $5k a month?
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There's a "throw a dart at the NCAA rule book" joke here somewhere, right?
Nah, he was busy trying to cover up Bernie's issues and playing dumb
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Good lord, it's frightening how stupid you are.
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False, the money went to the Baltimore Parks and Rec. it was set up so Cecil Kirk put together the team for the exhibition, but the money went mostly to Baltimore Parks and Rec, some went to the players on the exhibition team. False, this happened all the time. Almost every team in D1 played exhibitions set up in similar fashion. Sometimes the money went th AAUs, sometimes to guys like the Pumps and sometimes to places like parks and recs.
True it involved the same people that ran Rudy Gays team and True it was banned a year or so after.
Hey if you want to make stuff up, I can too.
Bernie Fine is a disgrace and so is Boeheim.
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The irony is that these clowns seem to think that the money their schools paid to Athlete's in Action or the Pumps or whoever else went to something other than lining someone's pockets.
It's almost cute.
As for the Syracuse fan here, he might well be reminded that not only did Syracuse take good care of their 'exhibition teams', but they straight out hired AAU influence and are currently in hot water for violating enough rules in the NCAA manual that you can apparently hit one just by throwing a dart.
It's almost cute.
As for the Syracuse fan here, he might well be reminded that not only did Syracuse take good care of their 'exhibition teams', but they straight out hired AAU influence and are currently in hot water for violating enough rules in the NCAA manual that you can apparently hit one just by throwing a dart.
Priceless...do you believe in the Easter Bunny too?
Don't get me wrong; according to the rules at the time it was shady; but not vs the rules. Uconn paid off the AAU squad for Gays services.
Show me where UCONN made a donation to that charity besides the 25k that time and ill shut up.
Don't get me wrong; according to the rules at the time it was shady; but not vs the rules. Uconn paid off the AAU squad for Gays services.
Show me where UCONN made a donation to that charity besides the 25k that time and ill shut up.
Guess you don't practice at the Pat and Jim Calhoun Cardiology Center, eh doc?
Who are you talking to? Freaking quote whoever you are responding to you idiot.
Btw what does a thread on a UConn board about SHU have to do with Cuse or PC?
UConn played exhibition teams almost every year. Look it up yourself. They were paid or donations were made.
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smh, Willard must be a lovable dude
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Kevin Willard is definitely thinking outside the box in terms of recruiting. More evidence of that was today.
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Kevin Willard is definitely thinking outside the box in terms of recruiting. More evidence of that was today.
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What was Upstate AAU that Syracuse used to play in exhibition games? It was usually a team of several recent Syracuse alums and some other local riffraff on a barnstorming tour - a tour that brought them from the Carrier Dome to the Carrier Dome locker room.
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Your program has a lot going for it. How long do you think the incredible inferiority complex you have when it comes to UCONN basketball will last?
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1. False. They didn't pay $25k.
2. False. They didn't pay Rudy Gay's AAU team.
3. True. They paid $22k.
4. True. They paid the City of Baltimore Parks & Rec. Association.
5. False. "Never happened before." Many teams all over America paid AAU teams many times--in this case, UConn did not. Here, I'll throw in a bonus for you. In 2003, UConn paid Brandon Bass's AAU team for an exhibition game while it was recruiting Brandon Bass. Brandon Bass verbaled to LSU. You never heard anyone moan and whine over this direct payment to Bass's AAU team. Guess why? No one wanted to throw light on a common practice, or pee off Brandon Bass's AAU coaches.
6. Why do you think it's OK for Gary Williams to pay the Pump Brothers and land Pump Brothers recruits, but it's wrong for UConn to pay the City of Baltimore to curry favor with Gay's AAU coach (a longtime Calhoun friend, Reggie Lewis's mentor prior to his Northeastern days) who was employed by the City of Baltimore and Parks & Rec.? Why? In one instance, the money goes to inner-city youth, in the other, it goes to line the pockets of the Pump Brothers.
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Syracuse isn't under investigation?
Interesting.
There's zero difference between the Beltway Ballers and the exhibition teams that UConn, Syracuse and the rest of the planet played. The irony is that you think any of them were legit - if nothing else, at least the Cecil Kirk outfit was indeed a brick and mortar rec center. (Upstate AAU.....legit! lol.)
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Laurie Fine told Davis that she knew all along that Bernie was molesting him in their basement nightly when he was between the ages of 12-14. She said this in a phone call. Whe Davis made those claims to Syracuse, the lawyers covered it up and told him to take a hike.
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You're absolutely wrong on this. They paid the City of Baltimore's Parks and rec. Calhoun recruited Gay from the time he was a sophomore. Gary Williams jumped in the late summer before his Senior year.
Why was giving money to parks & Rec. shady but not giving money directly to AAU coaches? The AAU guys are still getting paid today. Legally. They're still selling their newsletters.
I see a lot of hypocrisy here.
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Hey - we saw the way the system was set up and we played the game our way. We played Louisiana Futures when we wanted Brandon Bass, we played Canadian something or other when we wanted Denham Brown, we played Baltimore Ballerz when we wanted Rudy Gay. That was how we used our 'AAU' game, instead of paying the Pumps for access to their 15 or so top 100 Pump'n'Run kids.
But then again, Jay Wright would bring the NY Panthers team of Gary Charles riffraff down to Villanova, so he could get Jason Fraser and Curtis Sumpter. Al Skinner would play the BABC All-Stars. Minnesota, fresh off academic scandal under Clem Haskins, had their little feeder program they took care of with exhibition money. List goes on and on.
The legislation to ban the practice of paying AAU coaches for exhibitions was brought before the NCAA by Northwestern and the Big 10 Conference. Gary Williams whined about it, but he had lined the Pumps pockets plenty and had no moral ground to stand on.
But then again, Jay Wright would bring the NY Panthers team of Gary Charles riffraff down to Villanova, so he could get Jason Fraser and Curtis Sumpter. Al Skinner would play the BABC All-Stars. Minnesota, fresh off academic scandal under Clem Haskins, had their little feeder program they took care of with exhibition money. List goes on and on.
The legislation to ban the practice of paying AAU coaches for exhibitions was brought before the NCAA by Northwestern and the Big 10 Conference. Gary Williams whined about it, but he had lined the Pumps pockets plenty and had no moral ground to stand on.
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http://www.casualhoya.com/2012/12/17/3776630/jim-boeheim-900-wins-syracuse-orange-basketball
The Crimes and Misdemeanors of Syracuse basketball.
The Crimes and Misdemeanors of Syracuse basketball.
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Your sentence doesn't make any sense. They didn't make that $22k payment to the AAU team. We've said this repeatedly.
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Gary Williams for heaven's sake used to give the Pumps tens of thousands of dollars yearly in Final 4 tickets, AND he paid for their stupid newsletter.
The Pumps were connected though. Cedric Dempsey, the NCAA President upon retirement, got a job with the Pumps offering his services as a "consultant." Brilliant. So it's all right for connected people to suck money from schools, but wrong for money to go to little kids. That's your stance.
The NCAA also banned all the tickets that many coaches were giving out like candy, and then they banned the consulting services run by the ex-NCAA chief (you can't pay someone to make this stuff up). But the Pumps are too smart--they are now selling newsletters.
By the way, Maryland went head-to-head with UConn for a recruit from New England. That recruit chose Maryland, and it just so happened that the recruit also played for the Pump Brothers. UConn wasn't paying the Pumps back then (I don't even know if they subscribe to the newsletter now, they probably should because Ollie has Cali. connections as well). Nike-Caner Medley was the kid's name.
The Pumps were connected though. Cedric Dempsey, the NCAA President upon retirement, got a job with the Pumps offering his services as a "consultant." Brilliant. So it's all right for connected people to suck money from schools, but wrong for money to go to little kids. That's your stance.
The NCAA also banned all the tickets that many coaches were giving out like candy, and then they banned the consulting services run by the ex-NCAA chief (you can't pay someone to make this stuff up). But the Pumps are too smart--they are now selling newsletters.
By the way, Maryland went head-to-head with UConn for a recruit from New England. That recruit chose Maryland, and it just so happened that the recruit also played for the Pump Brothers. UConn wasn't paying the Pumps back then (I don't even know if they subscribe to the newsletter now, they probably should because Ollie has Cali. connections as well). Nike-Caner Medley was the kid's name.
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Which of the dozens of crimes (which the website has cited) isn't credible?
Ill repeat; I have ZERO problem with it; just drop the outrage at SHU. Uconn paid for Rudy Gay and apparently tried to pay for Brandon Bass and got outbid. It was a loophole that was exploited.
Just don't sit in judgement of other programs like you are lily white
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Your reading comprehension is awful.
Really bad. People are sitting here saying where's the media outrage?! And you think this is about something else.
Why did no one freak out about Duke doing these things? Maryland? Or for heaven's sake UConn!! We did the same thing in prior years.
What we're saying is that the outrage (especially yours) is all cooked up. In the media, in the NCAA, everywhere. And freaking sweaty Gary Williams can whine until forever, because he was a lousy recruiter who couldn't even be bothered to figure out if there were any decent players in Baltimore.
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The Pumps are connected sleazebags who sell players to colleges.
The Beltway Ballers were a ragtag club run out of Baltimore Parks & Rec. by Reggie Lewis's and Rudy Gay's mentor. The fact that you don't realize that one outfit is sleazy, profiting form the trade in players, while the other outfit serves inner-city youth, shows how little you care about morals. Either one was ethical given the rules, but morally you think it's dandy for hangers-on like the Pumps to line their pockets, but you're outrage that an inner-city youth organization run by the city received money from UConn. Laughable.
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If you're asking whether you succeeded in twisting everything that's been said so far, the answer is: affirmative
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