OT: Seton Hall

[upstater]

http://www.casualhoya.com/2012/12/17/3776630/jim-boeheim-900-wins-syracuse-orange-basketball

The Crimes and Misdemeanors of Syracuse basketball.

 

[seanmc94]

Who are you talking to? Freaking quote whoever you are responding to you idiot.

Btw what does a thread on a UConn board about SHU have to do with Cuse or PC?

UConn played exhibition teams almost every year. Look it up yourself. They were paid or donations were made.

That's not what I asked. Reading comprehension. Outside of the onetime 25k payment; has uconn given one dime to that AAU team?

I've always found that those that resort to name calling and profanity do so bc their argument doesn't hold water.

Just an observation

 

[upstater]

That's not what I asked. Reading comprehension. Outside of the onetime 25k payment; has uconn given one dime to that AAU team?

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. They didn't make that $22k payment to the AAU team. We've said this repeatedly.

 

[upstater]

Gary Williams for heaven's sake used to give the Pumps tens of thousands of dollars yearly in Final 4 tickets, AND he paid for their stupid newsletter.

The Pumps were connected though. Cedric Dempsey, the NCAA President upon retirement, got a job with the Pumps offering his services as a "consultant." Brilliant. So it's all right for connected people to suck money from schools, but wrong for money to go to little kids. That's your stance.

The NCAA also banned all the tickets that many coaches were giving out like candy, and then they banned the consulting services run by the ex-NCAA chief (you can't pay someone to make this stuff up). But the Pumps are too smart--they are now selling newsletters.

By the way, Maryland went head-to-head with UConn for a recruit from New England. That recruit chose Maryland, and it just so happened that the recruit also played for the Pump Brothers. UConn wasn't paying the Pumps back then (I don't even know if they subscribe to the newsletter now, they probably should because Ollie has Cali. connections as well). Nike-Caner Medley was the kid's name.

 

[upstater]

CREDIBLE SOURCE. ... them again if anyone knows of criminal conDuct. ....

Which of the dozens of crimes (which the website has cited) isn't credible?

 

[seanmc94]

1. False. They didn't pay $25k.
2. False. They didn't pay Rudy Gay's AAU team.
3. True. They paid $22k.
4. True. They paid the City of Baltimore Parks & Rec. Association.
5. False. "Never happened before." Many teams all over America paid AAU teams many times--in this case, UConn did not. Here, I'll throw in a bonus for you. In 2003, UConn paid Brandon Bass's AAU team for an exhibition game while it was recruiting Brandon Bass. Brandon Bass verbaled to LSU. You never heard anyone moan and whine over this direct payment to Bass's AAU team. Guess why? No one wanted to throw light on a common practice, or pee off Brandon Bass's AAU coaches.

6. Why do you think it's OK for Gary Williams to pay the Pump Brothers and land Pump Brothers recruits, but it's wrong for UConn to pay the City of Baltimore to curry favor with Gay's AAU coach (a longtime Calhoun friend, Reggie Lewis's mentor prior to his Northeastern days) who was employed by the City of Baltimore and Parks & Rec.? Why? In one instance, the money goes to inner-city youth, in the other, it goes to line the pockets of the Pump Brothers.

Ill repeat; I have ZERO problem with it; just drop the outrage at SHU. Uconn paid for Rudy Gay and apparently tried to pay for Brandon Bass and got outbid. It was a loophole that was exploited.

Just don't sit in judgement of other programs like you are lily white

 

[upstater]

Ill repeat; I have ZERO problem with it; just drop the outrage at SHU. Uconn paid for Rudy Gay and apparently tried to pay for Brandon Bass and got outbid. It was a loophole that was exploited.

Just don't sit in judgement of other programs like you are lily white

Your reading comprehension is awful.
Really bad. People are sitting here saying where's the media outrage?! And you think this is about something else.
Why did no one freak out about Duke doing these things? Maryland? Or for heaven's sake UConn!! We did the same thing in prior years.

What we're saying is that the outrage (especially yours) is all cooked up. In the media, in the NCAA, everywhere. And freaking sweaty Gary Williams can whine until forever, because he was a lousy recruiter who couldn't even be bothered to figure out if there were any decent players in Baltimore.

 

[upstater]

Comparing the Pumps and the beltway ballers shows just how clueless uconn fans are.

Once again. ... everyone is responsible for uconns problems but uconn.

The Pumps are connected sleazebags who sell players to colleges.

The Beltway Ballers were a ragtag club run out of Baltimore Parks & Rec. by Reggie Lewis's and Rudy Gay's mentor. The fact that you don't realize that one outfit is sleazy, profiting form the trade in players, while the other outfit serves inner-city youth, shows how little you care about morals. Either one was ethical given the rules, but morally you think it's dandy for hangers-on like the Pumps to line their pockets, but you're outrage that an inner-city youth organization run by the city received money from UConn. Laughable.

 

[seanmc94]

So SHU is shady for hiring kids coaches
Gary Williams is scum bc he paid AAU programs
Syracuse us a bunch of criminals
UCONN has never ever even approached breaking a rule ave has been unfairly targeted by the NCAA

That about right?

 

[upstater]

So SHU is shady for hiring kids coaches
Gary Williams is scum bc he paid AAU programs
Syracuse us a bunch of criminals
UCONN has never ever even approached breaking a rule ave has been unfairly targeted by the NCAA

That about right?

If you're asking whether you succeeded in twisting everything that's been said so far, the answer is: affirmative

 

[HuskyBballFan]

So SHU is shady for hiring kids coaches
Gary Williams is scum bc he paid AAU programs
Syracuse us a bunch of criminals
UCONN has never ever even approached breaking a rule ave has been unfairly targeted by the NCAA

That about right?

Talk about a strawman argument.