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OT- Ronda Rousey gets destroyed

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I don't think her success was phony. She beat who was in front of her. I'm just not sure what was in front of her was ever very good to begin with. With better athletes flooding the sport literally every day, I just think she had an early expiration date as a bonafide top star.



See here's my thing with this, though - Is even when she got close - she couldn't do anything. Couldn't control Holly, couldn't take her down, couldn't keep her down. She actually ate even more punches coming in, while in and breaking from the clinch. Again - it just comes down to Holly being a superior athlete in almost every single way.

I dont think Holly would choose to let Ronda get her on the ground again. I'm not saying it was complete luck that she got out, but I bet more times than not, if Holly gets on the ground with Ronda, Ronda will win the fight. That being said, I dont think Ronda would be able to get Holly on the ground in most fights... Especially after this loss, I think if there was a rematch, Ronda would be too scared to get close enough to get her on the ground. I agree Holly is just a superior fighter and athlete though.
 
One of the most impressive things looking back is how shockingly great Holly was technically. She absolutely owned Ronda's clinch.

One thing I noticed a lot of Ronda's opponents did in the past was playing right into their hands by wrapping their arms around her in the headlock clinch and not keeping their hips lowered. Ronda's gets her hips under everyone and as soon as their opponent wraps their arms around her waist she can roll either way and pop that arm bar. The one time when Holly did that, she had her back taken, Ronda was literally one step away from nabbing the bar - all she had to do was pass her foot through her guard. Holly immediately took her hands out from around her waste so that even when Ronda tried to pass, there was no arm there to roll off of and no submission to be had. Holly simply stood up and began teeing off on her again. It's literally like she solved the whole riddle to Ronda's clinch game.

One thing people forget - is that boxers live in the clinch and Holly's maybe the best clinch female fighter ever. She knew what she was doing. Kind of watched this fight 2-3 times and figured Holly survived her in the clinch. She didn't. She beat her bad. In fact, that's where I feel like she actually won the fight.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you didn't watch this before your post. If you didn't props to you for being such a technical observer of the sport. You went into great detail in your post almost matching Firaz Zahabi in your breakdown. Below is great 13 minute breakdown of how Holm did it.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/11/...-holly-holm-full-fight-breakdown-firas-zahabi
 
Regardless of expected outcome, IMO there is no way Holly and/or Ronda fight anyone else first. The UFC won't take any risk in Holly losing the belt to someone like Tate. There is too much money on the table for UFC 200
 
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you didn't watch this before your post. If you didn't props to you for being such a technical observer of the sport. You went into great detail in your post almost matching Firaz Zahabi in your breakdown. Below is great 13 minute breakdown of how Holm did it.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/11/...-holly-holm-full-fight-breakdown-firas-zahabi

As someone who has never watched any MMA at all, this was interesting to watch, because if you just listened to people here, Rousey is a fraud who doesn't have any skills.
 
As someone who has never watched any MMA at all, this was interesting to watch, because if you just listened to people here, Rousey is a fraud who doesn't have any skills.
Rousey is very very good. The hype train had gotten out of control. That Dana White was proclaiming that Rousey would rag doll Mayweather was absurd. You saw Rousey get outclassed by a female professional boxer on the feet. What do you think the best pound for pound male boxer on the planet would do to her? The mainstream media was running with this way too much. I personally had gotten tired of the hyperbole regarding her. Joe Rogan said she could beat half the males in the UFC'S bantamweight division. Her greatness was undeniable, but she was being hyped to mythical lengths with Rogan comparing calling her fights to what it must have been like to call Muhammad Ali s fights. Silliness.
 
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Ronda Rousey (before Holm fight)= Mike Tyson (before Buster Douglas). "Baddest Women on the Planet"/"Baddest Man on the Planet". Both bought into the hype.

Remember this folks: There's always a badder man or women out there than you (and probably both.) and if you're lucky you'll never run into him or her. This statement applies to everyone. Well, except for William Shea.
Ah but if Shea ran into him, he could always run away...or call for help, so he's good either way.
 
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you didn't watch this before your post. If you didn't props to you for being such a technical observer of the sport. You went into great detail in your post almost matching Firaz Zahabi in your breakdown. Below is great 13 minute breakdown of how Holm did it.

VALIDATION~!

But no seriously, I'm a Judoka, so... I'm not going to toot my horn that much. What he points out and what I talked about... that's pretty basic stuff. Like it's literally impossible to do anything without hip position in Judo. And hands wrapped around the waist stuff is literally S.O.P. for luring someone into an arm bar in Judo. Watch some of the Olympic matches and it rarely ever gets picked because players know how to defend it. It's almost kind of like a nutmeg in soccer. You don't want to be the dope that has that happen to them.

I'd hardly call myself even a skilled fighter (I'm a pretty casual practitioner) but Ronda's so robotic and repetitive in her fights that I'm honestly shocked no one's caught on to this point. Even if you watch Firaz's video - he shows a million clips of her doing the SAME THING in every fight and literally all her opponents - even pre-UFC - fall for the same trick. I'm not ragging on her skill because her days as a Judoka player were much better in the Olympics - and her offense was wide ranging. But you could literally count the number of major judo practitioners in mainstream MMA on one hand - if that. She just shot a judo hold over and over that most people have never seen or considered. Holly had a crack coaching staff and I've got a feeling they pretty much picked it off right off the bat.

But again, while coaching made a difference here - it's not the reason Ronda lost. Holly broke her guard frequently and obliterated her in the clinch. Ronda took as many hits heading INTO the clinch, INSIDE the clinch and separating from the clinch as she did with Holly dancing around and popping her. Judo's a horrible style match up with a boxer because one - you're kept at extreme range and even when you close space, Boxers are better than anyone in a standup clinch - which is the real estate where a Judoka needs to exist to apply their craft.

So really - the whole thing was a perfect storm:

-Bad coaching for Rousey
-Crack coaching for Holm
-Horrible Styles Match up for Rousey
-Holm was stronger
-Holm was *a lot* faster
-And don't forget - Holly took some SHOTS (one knocked her mouthpiece out) and she wasn't ever rocked of phased. Ronda couldn't hurt her)
-Knew how to stuff all of Ronda's offense
-Had a big reach advantage
-Was in *superior* condition

I know some people were commenting on her camp - but Ronda dropped weight to chase Holm. She was gassed in two minutes. To me it's not a skill, training or coaching issue - it's a professional athlete vs. a very good amateur. I just think it got exposed. Now as more of the best women's fighters make their way into MMA, I think you'll see Rousey go the way of the Chuck Lidell's, Rich Franklins and Tito Ortiz's of the world. Somewhat competitive - great for solid draw mid card fights - but utterly outclassed by elite fighters.
 
Just more from the 'we all should have seen this coming a mile away' file:

Look at how accurate her striking is once you get to the later highlights. I mean that's insane. The combos, the precision - but most importantly... look how solid her base is. She's never off balance, never out of control. She's basically evolved into a female version of CroCop - except more athletic and a way, way, way better boxer.

 
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