OT: RIP Scott Weiland

[mauconnfan]

His voice was tremendous and unique for R & R. I mean as a 70's rocker who swore of anything else after wards from ever being close, he gave me hope there could still be rock and roll again. He and STP super stuff!

 

[WestHartHusk]

Great band and Weiland was a friggin' rock star, just a great frontman. That early 90's rock movement was amazing, glad my love of music was developing at this time and got to experience that movement along with the last great hip-hop movement at the same time, the way things are going I worry we won't have anything like it again.

Love the guy who steals the microphone at about the 4 minute mark...slick move.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Loved 'em both Nomar. But STP was LA glam and AIC just dirty dirty smack sound from day one...at least to my ear. But never saw Alice live.

Considering that they formed in San Diego and Weiland was a huge Bowie fan, it's understandable.

 

[Chin Diesel]

If you read the comments on that article you'd see that only Layne was in the hairband version. AIC had a very original approach to their song compositions. Nothing hairband about them.

STP was the closest thing to 90’s version of Led Zeppelin.

That was a great time for music.

I'm terrible with links but STP Down live at the Rolling Rock is a good example of what a true frontman he was.

A couple of thoughts. Rock music during the mif-80's was dreadful. It was the pinnacle of hair bands.

Appetite for Destruction changed everything. That was a straight up classic rock album with all the check boxes. I think that was summer of 1987.

Next up was the game changer which was Nirvana's Nevermind. 1991. It was like nothing anyone had heard. Must have been similar to hearing Hendrix for the first time.

Those two albums resurrected rock and have pretty much influenced rock for the past 30 years.

I really like STP's first few albums. They weren't anywhere near Zeppelin for creativity or musical quality.

 

[uconnever]

R.I.P. Sad to hear. A couple of years ago, I lost a close childhood friend to this.
I didn't hear about S.W. until coming on here. Two days ago I was thinking about how I would never get to talk to my friend ever again. Just a really nice guy. My favorite of all my friends. I moved from CT to NY about 10 years ago and hadn't seen him. Don't know who introduced him to that lifestyle and never saw this coming. Had two young girls under 5 who will not ever know how cool,funny and how big a heart he had. Interestingly enough also gave me great advice that i think about all the time in my adult years. Just can't believe it. That is killing everyone. Also my little brother's best friend was on that and died in his car in front of my house in Trumbull years ago. The sad thing is that more and more kids are skipping over the weed and jumping straight into this. I think they just don't think it Can happen to them. I'm down for partying a little, but this drug makes me angry. Enough is enough.

 

[Chin Diesel]

R.I.P. Sad to hear. A couple of years ago, I lost a close childhood friend to this.
I didn't hear about S.W. until coming on here. Two days ago I was thinking about how I would never get to talk to my friend ever again. Just a really nice guy. My favorite of all my friends. I moved from CT to NY about 10 years ago and hadn't seen him. Don't know who introduced him to that lifestyle and never saw this coming. Had two young girls under 5 who will not ever know how cool,funny and how big a heart he had. Interestingly enough also gave me great advice that i think about all the time in my adult years. Just can't ing believe it. That is killing everyone. Also my little brother's best friend was on that and died in his car in front of my house in Trumbull years ago. The sad thing is that more and more kids are skipping over the weed and jumping straight into this. I think they just don't think it Can happen to them. I'm down for partying a little, but this drug makes me angry. Enough is enough.

Going off on a bit of a tangent with legalizing weed and it being a starter or gateway drug is that kids think weed is harmless. If mom, dad and gov are fighting for it to be legal, it must be okay. So, when they going looking for a thrill they start with a more dangerous drug. And the weed over the past decade has gotten much more potent. So their baseline expectation for any type of high is higher too.

Drugs (including alcohol) don't care about gender, age or economic well-being. If you're brain isn't wired towards moderation and risk aversion, you're screwed.

 

[tdrink]

A couple of thoughts. Rock music during the mif-80's was dreadful. It was the pinnacle of hair bands.

Appetite for Destruction changed everything. That was a straight up classic rock album with all the check boxes. I think that was summer of 1987.

Next up was the game changer which was Nirvana's Nevermind. 1991. It was like nothing anyone had heard. Must have been similar to hearing Hendrix for the first time.

Those two albums resurrected rock and have pretty much influenced rock for the past 30 years.

I really like STP's first few albums. They weren't anywhere near Zeppelin for creativity or musical quality.

I didn't say they were on a par with Zep. A lot of bands wanted to capture the essence of LZ and STP came the closest imho.

 

[intlzncster]

A couple of thoughts. Rock music during the mif-80's was dreadful. It was the pinnacle of hair bands.

Appetite for Destruction changed everything. That was a straight up classic rock album with all the check boxes. I think that was summer of 1987.

Next up was the game changer which was Nirvana's Nevermind. 1991. It was like nothing anyone had heard. Must have been similar to hearing Hendrix for the first time.

Those two albums resurrected rock and have pretty much influenced rock for the past 30 years.

I really like STP's first few albums. They weren't anywhere near Zeppelin for creativity or musical quality.

Depends what you considered rock. I'd put Red Hot Chili Peppers in there; I loved them. While just starting to gain popularity in the 80s, they played some great music with Hillel Slovak before he died. Sort of a different tack from Nirvana, but Blood Sugar Sex Magic was same time frame. Some iconic tracks and videos.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Depends what you considered rock. I'd put Red Hot Chili Peppers in there; I loved them. While just starting to gain popularity in the 80s, they played some great music with Hillel Slovak before he died. Sort of a different tack from Nirvana, but Blood Sugar Sex Magic was same time frame. Some iconic tracks and videos.

Don't disagree with the Chili Peppers but I don't think they had the impact of Nirvana.

 

[intlzncster]

Don't disagree with the Chili Peppers but I don't think they had the impact of Nirvana.

Perhaps not, as the music landscape was more ready for grunge music to come on the scene. RHCP was more of a So Cal sound.

There's no doubt that the Smells Like Teen Spirit video was a defining turning point in Rock and Roll history. One of the most iconic for sure.

 

[intlzncster]

Going off on a bit of a tangent with legalizing weed and it being a starter or gateway drug is that kids think weed is harmless. If mom, dad and gov are fighting for it to be legal, it must be okay. So, when they going looking for a thrill they start with a more dangerous drug. And the weed over the past decade has gotten much more potent. So their baseline expectation for any type of high is higher too.

Drugs (including alcohol) don't care about gender, age or economic well-being. If you're brain isn't wired towards moderation and risk aversion, you're screwed.

True, but I'd rather have a nation of pot heads than a nation of alcoholics. Potheads for the most part just sit there and eat chips. Alcoholics, well, you know (not you personally).

 

[Huskies4ever]

A couple of thoughts. Rock music during the mif-80's was dreadful. It was the pinnacle of hair bands.

Appetite for Destruction changed everything. That was a straight up classic rock album with all the check boxes. I think that was summer of 1987.

Next up was the game changer which was Nirvana's Nevermind. 1991. It was like nothing anyone had heard. Must have been similar to hearing Hendrix for the first time.

Those two albums resurrected rock and have pretty much influenced rock for the past 30 years.

I really like STP's first few albums. They weren't anywhere near Zeppelin for creativity or musical quality.

Three of the first cd's I ever owned, were Nevermind, Core, and Blood Sugar Sex Magic. Still love them all so much. I have them on my iPod, as well as Appetite For Destruction (that was an early cd as well). I was 14 in '92, so these albums were a big part of my teenage years.

That sound with Slovak at guitar, and then Frusciante (sp?) starting with Mother's Milk and BSSM, made the Chilli Peppers' sound so distinguishing. Punk-Funk, I believe is what they called it.

 

[nomar]

Three of the first cd's I ever owned, were Nevermind, Core, and Blood Sugar Sex Magic. Still love them all so much. I have them on my iPod, as well as Appetite For Destruction (that was an early cd as well). I was 14 in '92, so these albums were a big part of my teenage years.

That sound with Slovak at guitar, and then Frusciante (sp?) starting with Mother's Milk and BSSM, made the Chilli Peppers' sound so distinguishing. Punk-Funk, I believe is what they called it.

Three great albums. Pearl Jam's Ten is incredible, as well. And Use Your Illusion was another amazing (double) album.

 

[BankShot]

As much as the 90s sucked for a lot of things, there was a period of the 90s, call it 91-96 that had some great music. Pearl Jam, STP, Red Hot Chili Peppers, early Radiohead (the Bends and Ok Computer?!), early Oasis (best Oasis), and then really the birth and golden era of hip hop (2pac, the West Coast, Biggie, Nas, the Wu Tang Clan).

Interesting and strong era of music.

 

[intlzncster]

As much as the 90s sucked for a lot of things, there was a period of the 90s, call it 91-96 that had some great music. Pearl Jam, STP, Red Hot Chili Peppers, early Radiohead (the Bends and Ok Computer?!), early Oasis (best Oasis), and then really the birth and golden era of hip hop (2pac, the West Coast, Biggie, Nas, the Wu Tang Clan).

Interesting and strong era of music.

I got the Golden Era of hip hop just before that. Run DMC, 2 live, beasties... into De la soul, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Eric B & Rakim, Tribe called Quest, .. .. Into Dre, snoop, wu tang, Cyprus Hill, Tupac ...

Later Biggie, Naz, Jack Zergiotis...

I still think of Biggie and Jack Zergiotis as new school. Lol

And don't forget the wildly underrated Leaders of the New school. Hahaha

 

[Huskies4ever]

As much as the 90s sucked for a lot of things, there was a period of the 90s, call it 91-96 that had some great music. Pearl Jam, STP, Red Hot Chili Peppers, early Radiohead (the Bends and Ok Computer?!), early Oasis (best Oasis), and then really the birth and golden era of hip hop (2pac, the West Coast, Biggie, Nas, the Wu Tang Clan).

Interesting and strong era of music.

I know I may get some flack here, but I put Rage Against The Machine up there as well (their first two albums).

Love all the hip hop you mention.

 

[Huskies4ever]

I got the Golden Era of hip hop just before that. Run DMC, 2 live, beasties... into De la soul, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Eric B & Rakim, Tribe called Quest, .. .. Into Dre, snoop, wu tang, Cyprus Hill, Tupac ...

Later Biggie, Naz, Jack Zergiotis...

I still think of Biggie and Jack Zergiotis as new school. Lol

And don't forget the wildly underrated Leaders of the New school. Hahaha

How about Digital Underground? You can't leave out The Humpty Dance!

 

[intlzncster]

I know I may get some flack here, but I put Rage Against The Machine up there as well (their first two albums).

Love all the hip hop you mention.

I got NIN in there for me too. Still one of the best shows I've been too

 

[superjohn]

As much as the 90s sucked for a lot of things, there was a period of the 90s, call it 91-96 that had some great music. Pearl Jam, STP, Red Hot Chili Peppers, early Radiohead (the Bends and Ok Computer?!), early Oasis (best Oasis), and then really the birth and golden era of hip hop (2pac, the West Coast, Biggie, Nas, the Wu Tang Clan).

Interesting and strong era of music.

It wasn't the birth of hip-hop but it was the best era of hip-hop.

 

[D-NICE]

I would have to identify the golden era of hip hop artists such as: KRS ONE, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick, Doug E Fresh,Biz Markie, Kool G Rap, Pete Rock and Cl Smooth, Mc Lyte, Kool Moe Dee, LL Cool J, and Heavy D. and also groups such as Public Enemy, Gang Starr, Stetasonic, Brand Nubian, Run DMC, by Nature, Beastie Boys, Main Source, EPMD ,Da LaSoul, BDP, TCQ, 3 x dope, Salt n Pepa, and Nice & Smooth. Unfortunatly, D-Nice was a one hit wonder, but he was a member of BDP.

 

[intlzncster]

I would have to identify the golden era of hip hop artists such as: KRS ONE, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick, Doug E Fresh,Biz Markie, Kool G Rap, Pete Rock and Cl Smooth, Mc Lyte, Kool Moe Dee, LL Cool J, and Heavy D. and also groups such as Public Enemy, Gang Starr, Stetasonic, Brand Nubian, Run DMC, by Nature, Beastie Boys, Main Source, EPMD ,Da LaSoul, BDP, TCQ, 3 x dope, Salt n Pepa, and Nice & Smooth. Unfortunatly, D-Nice was a one hit wonder, but he was a member of BDP.

BDP! That was the first hip hop I was ever into. "are you a philosopher?" That and Grandmaster Flash .

Man, thinking about I this is funny. Brought to mind an old 80s movie called 'Beat Street'. Anybody remember that one? And 'Breakin' too.

 

[superjohn]

I got the Golden Era of hip hop just before that. Run DMC, 2 live, beasties... into De la soul, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Eric B & Rakim, Tribe called Quest, .. .. Into Dre, snoop, wu tang, Cyprus Hill, Tupac ...

Later Biggie, Naz, Jack Zergiotis...

I still think of Biggie and Jack Zergiotis as new school. Lol

And don't forget the wildly underrated Leaders of the New school. Hahaha

Kool G Rap, Boogie Down Productions, Gangstarr,

I got the Golden Era of hip hop just before that. Run DMC, 2 live, beasties... into De la soul, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Eric B & Rakim, Tribe called Quest, .. .. Into Dre, snoop, wu tang, Cyprus Hill, Tupac ...

Later Biggie, Naz, Jack Zergiotis...

I still think of Biggie and Jack Zergiotis as new school. Lol

And don't forget the wildly underrated Leaders of the New school. Hahaha

Kool G Rap, KRS One, Brand Nubian, Organized Konfusion, Big Pun, AZ, Ice Cube, Heiroglyphics, Ras Kass, The Alkaholiks, Outkast etc. I could go on and on, it was all good back then.

 

[tdrink]

Primus, Sublime, Bind Melon, Tool, Offspring, Phish still a lot that haven't been mentioned

 

[superjohn]

I would have to identify the golden era of hip hop artists such as: KRS ONE, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick, Doug E Fresh,Biz Markie, Kool G Rap, Pete Rock and Cl Smooth, Mc Lyte, Kool Moe Dee, LL Cool J, and Heavy D. and also groups such as Public Enemy, Gang Starr, Stetasonic, Brand Nubian, Run DMC, by Nature, Beastie Boys, Main Source, EPMD ,Da LaSoul, BDP, TCQ, 3 x dope, Salt n Pepa, and Nice & Smooth. Unfortunatly, D-Nice was a one hit wonder, but he was a member of BDP.

by Nature was fun, Treach is criminally underrated. Eminem bit his style, not dissing Eminem he just recognized how nasty Treach was.

 

[Offhegoes]

I love Pearl Jam. (hence my name on here). Them and husky hoops are two of my favorite things in life. I was born in 1988, but a lot of music I listen to today was created in the 90's. RHCP (w John Frusciante), PJ, Nirvana, Dinosaur Jr, Radiohead is some of the best. Never got into STP, but I respect their work. Sucks another talented musician was taken too young. Also, if there are any PJ fanatics on here, there's rumor of a northeast tour coming soon, w Hartford on the list.