OT: RIP Scott Weiland

[Chin Diesel]

R.I.P. Sad to hear. A couple of years ago, I lost a close childhood friend to this.
I didn't hear about S.W. until coming on here. Two days ago I was thinking about how I would never get to talk to my friend ever again. Just a really nice guy. My favorite of all my friends. I moved from CT to NY about 10 years ago and hadn't seen him. Don't know who introduced him to that lifestyle and never saw this coming. Had two young girls under 5 who will not ever know how cool,funny and how big a heart he had. Interestingly enough also gave me great advice that i think about all the time in my adult years. Just can't ing believe it. That is killing everyone. Also my little brother's best friend was on that and died in his car in front of my house in Trumbull years ago. The sad thing is that more and more kids are skipping over the weed and jumping straight into this. I think they just don't think it Can happen to them. I'm down for partying a little, but this drug makes me angry. Enough is enough.

Going off on a bit of a tangent with legalizing weed and it being a starter or gateway drug is that kids think weed is harmless. If mom, dad and gov are fighting for it to be legal, it must be okay. So, when they going looking for a thrill they start with a more dangerous drug. And the weed over the past decade has gotten much more potent. So their baseline expectation for any type of high is higher too.

Drugs (including alcohol) don't care about gender, age or economic well-being. If you're brain isn't wired towards moderation and risk aversion, you're screwed.

 

[tdrink]

A couple of thoughts. Rock music during the mif-80's was dreadful. It was the pinnacle of hair bands.

Appetite for Destruction changed everything. That was a straight up classic rock album with all the check boxes. I think that was summer of 1987.

Next up was the game changer which was Nirvana's Nevermind. 1991. It was like nothing anyone had heard. Must have been similar to hearing Hendrix for the first time.

Those two albums resurrected rock and have pretty much influenced rock for the past 30 years.

I really like STP's first few albums. They weren't anywhere near Zeppelin for creativity or musical quality.

I didn't say they were on a par with Zep. A lot of bands wanted to capture the essence of LZ and STP came the closest imho.

 

[intlzncster]

A couple of thoughts. Rock music during the mif-80's was dreadful. It was the pinnacle of hair bands.

Appetite for Destruction changed everything. That was a straight up classic rock album with all the check boxes. I think that was summer of 1987.

Next up was the game changer which was Nirvana's Nevermind. 1991. It was like nothing anyone had heard. Must have been similar to hearing Hendrix for the first time.

Those two albums resurrected rock and have pretty much influenced rock for the past 30 years.

I really like STP's first few albums. They weren't anywhere near Zeppelin for creativity or musical quality.

Depends what you considered rock. I'd put Red Hot Chili Peppers in there; I loved them. While just starting to gain popularity in the 80s, they played some great music with Hillel Slovak before he died. Sort of a different tack from Nirvana, but Blood Sugar Sex Magic was same time frame. Some iconic tracks and videos.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Depends what you considered rock. I'd put Red Hot Chili Peppers in there; I loved them. While just starting to gain popularity in the 80s, they played some great music with Hillel Slovak before he died. Sort of a different tack from Nirvana, but Blood Sugar Sex Magic was same time frame. Some iconic tracks and videos.

Don't disagree with the Chili Peppers but I don't think they had the impact of Nirvana.

 

[intlzncster]

Don't disagree with the Chili Peppers but I don't think they had the impact of Nirvana.

Perhaps not, as the music landscape was more ready for grunge music to come on the scene. RHCP was more of a So Cal sound.

There's no doubt that the Smells Like Teen Spirit video was a defining turning point in Rock and Roll history. One of the most iconic for sure.

 

[intlzncster]

Going off on a bit of a tangent with legalizing weed and it being a starter or gateway drug is that kids think weed is harmless. If mom, dad and gov are fighting for it to be legal, it must be okay. So, when they going looking for a thrill they start with a more dangerous drug. And the weed over the past decade has gotten much more potent. So their baseline expectation for any type of high is higher too.

Drugs (including alcohol) don't care about gender, age or economic well-being. If you're brain isn't wired towards moderation and risk aversion, you're screwed.

True, but I'd rather have a nation of pot heads than a nation of alcoholics. Potheads for the most part just sit there and eat chips. Alcoholics, well, you know (not you personally).

 

[Huskies4ever]

A couple of thoughts. Rock music during the mif-80's was dreadful. It was the pinnacle of hair bands.

Appetite for Destruction changed everything. That was a straight up classic rock album with all the check boxes. I think that was summer of 1987.

Next up was the game changer which was Nirvana's Nevermind. 1991. It was like nothing anyone had heard. Must have been similar to hearing Hendrix for the first time.

Those two albums resurrected rock and have pretty much influenced rock for the past 30 years.

I really like STP's first few albums. They weren't anywhere near Zeppelin for creativity or musical quality.

Three of the first cd's I ever owned, were Nevermind, Core, and Blood Sugar Sex Magic. Still love them all so much. I have them on my iPod, as well as Appetite For Destruction (that was an early cd as well). I was 14 in '92, so these albums were a big part of my teenage years.

That sound with Slovak at guitar, and then Frusciante (sp?) starting with Mother's Milk and BSSM, made the Chilli Peppers' sound so distinguishing. Punk-Funk, I believe is what they called it.

 

[nomar]

Three of the first cd's I ever owned, were Nevermind, Core, and Blood Sugar Sex Magic. Still love them all so much. I have them on my iPod, as well as Appetite For Destruction (that was an early cd as well). I was 14 in '92, so these albums were a big part of my teenage years.

That sound with Slovak at guitar, and then Frusciante (sp?) starting with Mother's Milk and BSSM, made the Chilli Peppers' sound so distinguishing. Punk-Funk, I believe is what they called it.

Three great albums. Pearl Jam's Ten is incredible, as well. And Use Your Illusion was another amazing (double) album.

 

[BankShot]

As much as the 90s sucked for a lot of things, there was a period of the 90s, call it 91-96 that had some great music. Pearl Jam, STP, Red Hot Chili Peppers, early Radiohead (the Bends and Ok Computer?!), early Oasis (best Oasis), and then really the birth and golden era of hip hop (2pac, the West Coast, Biggie, Nas, the Wu Tang Clan).

Interesting and strong era of music.

 

[intlzncster]

As much as the 90s sucked for a lot of things, there was a period of the 90s, call it 91-96 that had some great music. Pearl Jam, STP, Red Hot Chili Peppers, early Radiohead (the Bends and Ok Computer?!), early Oasis (best Oasis), and then really the birth and golden era of hip hop (2pac, the West Coast, Biggie, Nas, the Wu Tang Clan).

Interesting and strong era of music.

I got the Golden Era of hip hop just before that. Run DMC, 2 live, beasties... into De la soul, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Eric B & Rakim, Tribe called Quest, .. .. Into Dre, snoop, wu tang, Cyprus Hill, Tupac ...

Later Biggie, Naz, JZ...

I still think of Biggie and JZ as new school. Lol

And don't forget the wildly underrated Leaders of the New school. Hahaha

 

[Huskies4ever]

As much as the 90s sucked for a lot of things, there was a period of the 90s, call it 91-96 that had some great music. Pearl Jam, STP, Red Hot Chili Peppers, early Radiohead (the Bends and Ok Computer?!), early Oasis (best Oasis), and then really the birth and golden era of hip hop (2pac, the West Coast, Biggie, Nas, the Wu Tang Clan).

Interesting and strong era of music.

I know I may get some flack here, but I put Rage Against The Machine up there as well (their first two albums).

Love all the hip hop you mention.

 

[Huskies4ever]

I got the Golden Era of hip hop just before that. Run DMC, 2 live, beasties... into De la soul, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Eric B & Rakim, Tribe called Quest, .. .. Into Dre, snoop, wu tang, Cyprus Hill, Tupac ...

Later Biggie, Naz, JZ...

I still think of Biggie and JZ as new school. Lol

And don't forget the wildly underrated Leaders of the New school. Hahaha

How about Digital Underground? You can't leave out The Humpty Dance!

 

[intlzncster]

I know I may get some flack here, but I put Rage Against The Machine up there as well (their first two albums).

Love all the hip hop you mention.

I got NIN in there for me too. Still one of the best shows I've been too

 

[superjohn]

As much as the 90s sucked for a lot of things, there was a period of the 90s, call it 91-96 that had some great music. Pearl Jam, STP, Red Hot Chili Peppers, early Radiohead (the Bends and Ok Computer?!), early Oasis (best Oasis), and then really the birth and golden era of hip hop (2pac, the West Coast, Biggie, Nas, the Wu Tang Clan).

Interesting and strong era of music.

It wasn't the birth of hip-hop but it was the best era of hip-hop.

 

[D-NICE]

I would have to identify the golden era of hip hop artists such as: KRS ONE, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick, Doug E Fresh,Biz Markie, Kool G Rap, Pete Rock and Cl Smooth, Mc Lyte, Kool Moe Dee, LL Cool J, and Heavy D. and also groups such as Public Enemy, Gang Starr, Stetasonic, Brand Nubian, Run DMC, by Nature, Beastie Boys, Main Source, EPMD ,Da LaSoul, BDP, TCQ, 3 x dope, Salt n Pepa, and Nice & Smooth. Unfortunatly, D-Nice was a one hit wonder, but he was a member of BDP.

 

[intlzncster]

I would have to identify the golden era of hip hop artists such as: KRS ONE, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick, Doug E Fresh,Biz Markie, Kool G Rap, Pete Rock and Cl Smooth, Mc Lyte, Kool Moe Dee, LL Cool J, and Heavy D. and also groups such as Public Enemy, Gang Starr, Stetasonic, Brand Nubian, Run DMC, by Nature, Beastie Boys, Main Source, EPMD ,Da LaSoul, BDP, TCQ, 3 x dope, Salt n Pepa, and Nice & Smooth. Unfortunatly, D-Nice was a one hit wonder, but he was a member of BDP.

BDP! That was the first hip hop I was ever into. "are you a philosopher?" That and Grandmaster Flash .

Man, thinking about I this is funny. Brought to mind an old 80s movie called 'Beat Street'. Anybody remember that one? And 'Breakin' too.

 

[superjohn]

I got the Golden Era of hip hop just before that. Run DMC, 2 live, beasties... into De la soul, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Eric B & Rakim, Tribe called Quest, .. .. Into Dre, snoop, wu tang, Cyprus Hill, Tupac ...

Later Biggie, Naz, JZ...

I still think of Biggie and JZ as new school. Lol

And don't forget the wildly underrated Leaders of the New school. Hahaha

Kool G Rap, Boogie Down Productions, Gangstarr,

I got the Golden Era of hip hop just before that. Run DMC, 2 live, beasties... into De la soul, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Eric B & Rakim, Tribe called Quest, .. .. Into Dre, snoop, wu tang, Cyprus Hill, Tupac ...

Later Biggie, Naz, JZ...

I still think of Biggie and JZ as new school. Lol

And don't forget the wildly underrated Leaders of the New school. Hahaha

Kool G Rap, KRS One, Brand Nubian, Organized Konfusion, Big Pun, AZ, Ice Cube, Heiroglyphics, Ras Kass, The Alkaholiks, Outkast etc. I could go on and on, it was all good back then.

 

[tdrink]

Primus, Sublime, Bind Melon, Tool, Offspring, Phish still a lot that haven't been mentioned

 

[superjohn]

I would have to identify the golden era of hip hop artists such as: KRS ONE, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick, Doug E Fresh,Biz Markie, Kool G Rap, Pete Rock and Cl Smooth, Mc Lyte, Kool Moe Dee, LL Cool J, and Heavy D. and also groups such as Public Enemy, Gang Starr, Stetasonic, Brand Nubian, Run DMC, by Nature, Beastie Boys, Main Source, EPMD ,Da LaSoul, BDP, TCQ, 3 x dope, Salt n Pepa, and Nice & Smooth. Unfortunatly, D-Nice was a one hit wonder, but he was a member of BDP.

by Nature was fun, Treach is criminally underrated. Eminem bit his style, not dissing Eminem he just recognized how nasty Treach was.

 

[Offhegoes]

I love Pearl Jam. (hence my name on here). Them and husky hoops are two of my favorite things in life. I was born in 1988, but a lot of music I listen to today was created in the 90's. RHCP (w John Frusciante), PJ, Nirvana, Dinosaur Jr, Radiohead is some of the best. Never got into STP, but I respect their work. Sucks another talented musician was taken too young. Also, if there are any PJ fanatics on here, there's rumor of a northeast tour coming soon, w Hartford on the list.

 

[ecasadoSBU]

Solid frontman singer/rockstar. I loved STP and I also liked Velvet revolver (even if they did it just for the money). Sad to see him go.

Heroine has taken a lot of great artists. I was not part of this generation (born in 1990) but I have had the privilege of digging up good music from that era. I love the late 80's and 90's alt rock scene. AIC, STP, Pearl Jam, GnR, Soundgarden, and the Smashing Pumpkins all hold a special place in my life.

 

[intlzncster]

Kool G Rap, Boogie Down Productions, Gangstarr,

Kool G Rap, KRS One, Brand Nubian, Organized Konfusion, Big Pun, AZ, Ice Cube, Heiroglyphics, Ras Kass, The Alkaholiks, Outkast etc. I could go on and on, it was all good back then.

Not -Schnickens? Haha

 

[August_West]

At my gig right now just sound checked interstate love song. Gonna give that a run tonight. The deadheads should love that.

Well we gave it the college try. Never rehearsed except one run at sound check ( and the female vocalist not even there for that which is too bad we coulda tightened chorus harmonies,phrasing) It was worth it just for the bewildered look on some of the heads faces. Anyway warts and all here it is

 

[Chin Diesel]

Well we gave it the college try. Never rehearsed except one run at sound check ( and the female vocalist not even there for that which is too bad we coulda tightened chorus harmonies,phrasing) It was worth it just for the bewildered look on some of the heads faces. Anyway warts and all here it is

Well done. Well done.

 

[intlzncster]

Not -Schnickens? Haha

Was supposed to say Foo Schnickens

Edit: You can't even type '' without the filter throwing a fit. Crazy

 

[superjohn]

Was supposed to say Foo Schnickens

Edit: You can't even type '' without the filter throwing a fit. Crazy

I'm a true -schnicken, in all seriousness they were a million times better than any recent hip-hop that's come out.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I'm a true -schnicken, in all seriousness they were a million times better than any recent hip-hop that's come out.

This can't possibly be a serious comment John. Schnickens is a million times better than ANY recent hip hop? I think that's nostalgia talking.

 

[superjohn]

This can't possibly be a serious comment John. Schnickens is a million times better than ANY recent hip hop? I think that's nostalgia talking.

Trust me I'm not getting nostalgic about Fushnickens, I wasn't a fan. The comment was to illustrate how bad mainstream hip-hop is these days. There is good underground, there has always been good underground. If you could point me in the direction of good mainstream rap these days I would love to discover new stuff, the only decent stuff I've heard is probably J-Cole, Hopsin, Ces Cru.