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epark88 said:
Can vouch for this (seriously this time).

Said freshman roommate was a UCMB member and a soph by the time I got to UConn and joined the band. A great guy, very funny - he shared with us some of the stuff that went down and...whelp, let's just say that Cliff was definitely not a cool dude back then. So anytime he mentioned Cliff he prefaced it with: "...my former a**hole roommate. Not that he's formerly an a**hole, just formerly my roommate. He's STILL an a**hole."

He apparently said this so much his freshman year, it became a running UCMB gag the following two-plus years. Whenever anyone heard or mentioned Cliff's name, the entire band would start reciting the roommate's 'preface'.

It was hilarious at the time, especially if you were clued in on the back-story behind it all...
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FALSE - I lived in McMahon 5th floor with Cliff 1st semester of his freshman year. Cliff's roommate was Spider. I don't think Spider was in the band ;)
My opinion is Cliff was a nice enough guy. He's recognized me the two times I've bumped into him since. Plenty of people that hung with Cliff at Ted's will vouch for him except maybe the guy Cliff hit with a dart one time...
 
Dogdeacon said:
FALSE - I lived in McMahon 5th floor with Cliff 1st semester of his freshman year. Cliff's roommate was Spider. I don't think Spider was in the band ;)
My opinion is Cliff was a nice enough guy. He's recognized me the two times I've bumped into him since. Plenty of people that hung with Cliff at Ted's will vouch for him except maybe the guy Cliff hit with a dart one time...
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If I recall correctly, Cliff got a new roommate at some point that year (the guy in the band switched out). @epark88 was this the case?
 
I bumped into Marvelous Hagler on Newbury Street the day of the last Sugar Ray-Hit Man Hearns fight. He was carrying a gigantic boom box on his shoulders. He had short-shorts on and knee high tube socks. I stopped to ask him what he thought of the fight that night. He yelled at me, "I don't know, and I don't care!!!!!" What an .
 
selles said:
Lol, if you'd led with that it would have saved me some reading. You don't think it was a tad offensive where Pierce said that in a lot of ways he, Garnett and Cassell were the big 3? I mean, I guess that would be ok if he'd said 'in a lot of ways THAT DON'T MATTER'.

Nothing like a good old Walter Ray bashing thread by Celtics fans on the Boneyard. Maybe we can get the guy who doesn't like Ray's mom's dog to chime in, that will be the cherry on top.

This is a guy who's chartered planes to watch us play in championship games, but hey - he's definitely a skinflint.
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Never bashed Ray at all. One of the most professional guys in the league. I just laugh at people who get butt hurt over the smallest things. I didn't mind Ray leaving Boston one bit. Ainge had him on the trading block the prior season. Ray obviously made the right move.
 
polycom said:
If you think Ray Allen is what you call a "nice" guy, you're delusional. I've been at LA fitness when he is working out and played basketball he doesn't acknowledge people. He gives off the higher than thou vibe, not to mention that he goes to the gym with a bodyguard.
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I don't acknowledge anyone at the gym either, the gym is for working out not socializing.
 
superjohn said:
I think there was one person in the entire thread who had a problem with what Pierce said about Allen. Not being able to "carry one's jock" means player A isn't even close to being as good as player B. Great, Pierce is a first ballot Hall of Famer, so is Allen and neither are in the same stratosphere as Lebron on a basketball court. If you don't understand that you should just give up on watching basketball.
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You're clueless.
 
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Penfield said:
Also, one time my brother was playing a round of Golf in a 2 some while Ray and a buddy were playing as a 2 some behind them. Eventually Ray caught up and asked if they could join the group. My brother said after that Ray mostly kept to himself and didnt really say anything to them. Apparently his friend was very nice though.
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We let Ray, Ricky Moore and Burrell play through at Fox Hopyard two summers ago. It was pretty similar to the other times I've met him -- pleasant enough, but not really interested in interacting. I get the sense that he's just socially awkward. Great golf swing, though.
 
johnhuskies95 said:
I like Pierce, but outside of LeBron's rookie season, his worst season is better than Pierce's best season. And in the playoffs LeBron has always been better than Pierce. There's no shame in being outplayed by the best player in the world, but let's not pretend like LeBron isn't a good deal better than Pierce.

In 2010 LeBron was pretty inefficient overall in that series, but Pierce actually shot worse than he did.

In their other series' Pierce would have like 1 or 2 games out of 7 where he went toe to toe with LeBron but LeBron would outplay him by a decent amount in pretty much all the other games.
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Lebron's numbers were absolutely better than Pierce's and Lebron is the better player. Lebron also had to carry those Cleveland teams whereas Pierce had more scorers along side him. But you can watch iterviews of Lebron saying Pierce was his toughest matchup on both ends during those seasons. If that means everyone is holding Lebron's jock then so be it.
 
Dogdeacon said:
Ray Allen doesn't drink and is by all accounts obsessive compulsive. This is part of what made him great at basketball and not understanding that it also makes him an unlikely choice for buddies to hang with is delusional. Pierce did dis Ray (and many others in the article) with the big 3 comment, but it was strictly pertaining to off the court.

On the court Pierce's ego shows with the LeBron comment (fine he should have an ego) but Cassell was a deep bench guy so the comment doesn't register - if he'd said Perk or Rondo or heck even James Posey was the 3rd most important guy it'd be worth debating and then dismissing. Cassell was washed up & only played 1 year (championship where he shot 37% in finals and scored 19 pts in 5 games, one dnp) with the Celtics and then retired.
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I believe the context was around friendship rather than on the court performance.
 
James said:
Rick fox is on derek jeters level as far as getting a** . currently dates eliza dushku
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As always, this deserves pictures.

Fox's babe:



Jeter's babe:
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Jeter's babe in a landslide.
 
I loved that Pierce interview. Dude had the balls to give honest answers to some pretty tough questions. You don't see that too often. It was fun to read.
 
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bmo22 said:
I believe the context was around friendship rather than on the court performance.
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Of course it was. I mean, it's almost incomprehensible that someone could read that and think that he meant that he, KG, and Cassell were the three best players on the team. But that's the Boneyard for you. Just when you think you read the dumbest thing ever written . . .
 
Kembacity said:
Its funny because while I was reading his quotes, I was taking it as Ray probably didn't get up to the riffraff some of the other guys got into. I know theres the twitter fiasco he had, but I think that Ray distanced himself from the rest first in club trips and such and then it grew into him not being around for their charity events.

I dont think that pierce/cassell/KG are just going to fancy lovely charity events...
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I threw up in my mouth reading this. It sounds like it was written by a teenage girl about her crush. Amazing that that's what you were thinking reading that article.
 
Stairmaster said:
If I recall correctly, Cliff got a new roommate at some point that year (the guy in the band switched out). @epark88 was this the case?
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That's possible I suppose. Either way I can't imagine Cliff would be a good roommate or any basketball player for that matter. In McMahon the bball players used to do haircuts in the bathroom and would leave the hair just lying on the floor after they were done. It was consistently gross. Cliff was pretty lost that first year playing for Perno.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
I threw up in my mouth reading this. It sounds like it was written by a teenage girl about her crush. Amazing that that's what you were thinking reading that article.
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hahaha, hilarious read. Classic Big Ern big-leagueing, never ceases to amaze
 
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Dogdeacon said:
FALSE - I lived in McMahon 5th floor with Cliff 1st semester of his freshman year. Cliff's roommate was Spider. I don't think Spider was in the band ;)
My opinion is Cliff was a nice enough guy. He's recognized me the two times I've bumped into him since. Plenty of people that hung with Cliff at Ted's will vouch for him except maybe the guy Cliff hit with a dart one time...
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Sorry: TRUE.

Oh, I'm pretty sure the guy was his roommate at some point their freshman year - dude was definitely on the level. I lived in McMahon 5th floor two years afterwards and folks were still swapping war stories about it.

Stairmaster said:
If I recall correctly, Cliff got a new roommate at some point that year (the guy in the band switched out). @epark88 was this the case?
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Yes, they didn't make it through the academic year. Maybe he was in a triple with Cliff and Spider and he just left, I dunno.

By the way, the guy's name is Eric and he's a major bigwig in the Kappa Kappa Psi fraternity these days. Seek him out and get the story direct from him if you like. I don't think he'd have any reason to lie about it at all...
 
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epark88 said:
Sorry: TRUE.

Oh, I'm pretty sure the guy was his roommate at some point their freshman year - dude was definitely on the level. I lived in McMahon 5th floor two years afterwards and folks were still swapping war stories about it.



Yes, they didn't make it through the academic year. Maybe he was in a triple with Cliff and Spider and he just left, I dunno.

By the way, the guy's name is Eric and he's a major bigwig in the Kappa Kappa Psi fraternity these days. Seek him out and get the story direct from him if you like. I don't think he'd have any reason to lie about it all...
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I had dinner with Eric in September. That's why I know all this stuff. I wasn't even alive back then :cool:
 
epark88 said:
Sorry: TRUE.

Oh, I'm pretty sure the guy was his roommate at some point their freshman year - dude was definitely on the level. I lived in McMahon 5th floor two years afterwards and folks were still swapping war stories about it.



Yes, they didn't make it through the academic year. Maybe he was in a triple with Cliff and Spider and he just left, I dunno.

By the way, the guy's name is Eric and he's a major bigwig in the Kappa Kappa Psi fraternity these days. Seek him out and get the story direct from him if you like. I don't think he'd have any reason to lie about it all...
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Oh man, Eric Morson?
 
Yes, Eric Morson.

His reputation precedes him, apparently. You know him?...
 
Regarding the Pierce-Lebron comments, here is the way it appeared in the article:

"I always say I wish I was in my prime matching up against LeBron,'' said Pierce, grinning. "Let's see how many championships he would have won then.''

The writer included "grinning" to let the audience know that Pierce wasn't 100% super serious when he said this.

The other thing to consider is that Lebron has won 2 championships, so far. How many could Pierce have prevented? One? Both? It's seems kind of silly in that context. It's not like he was saying he would kept Jordan or Kobe from 3 of their titles.
 
bmo22 said:
Lebron's numbers were absolutely better than Pierce's and Lebron is the better player. Lebron also had to carry those Cleveland teams whereas Pierce had more scorers along side him. But you can watch iterviews of Lebron saying Pierce was his toughest matchup on both ends during those seasons. If that means everyone is holding Lebron's jock then so be it.
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Do you really think there would be that much of a difference if they switched teams? I'm not talking about point totals when I say how much better LeBron was or is, but mostly his efficiency stats. If he played on a better team and Pierce played on a worse team I think there would be even more of a discrepancy. That's what makes LeBron so good. He was playing with guys like Sasha Pavlovic and Anthony Parker and still putting up great numbers. Not quite like Iverson's Sixers, but pretty close.
 
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FriarJ said:
Did you guys know there is a life size Ray Allen Lego? Well a good (wealthy) buddy of mine bought it in a charity auction. He met Ray when it was presented to him and he said Ray was such a jerk and so aloof that he immediately had buyers remorse. You would think you would be nice to the guy that just donated a small friggin fortune to your charity. Anyway take it for what it's worth. If anybody wants I will take a photo and post it here.
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I should update this, after talking to him last night he said he would not characterize him as a jerk, and that aloof and seemingly unappreciative is more accurate. Maybe he was a little freaked out because the thing scares the bejeezes out of me.
 
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