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OT: Notre Dame declines bowl bid

The ND hate is ridiculous. Stop and look at it rationally. ND team at present is far better than Bama or Miami. Ranked ahead of Miami at the time these jokers were deliberating, and they also decided they needed 5 SEC teams in the 12. Really? It’s political, money, blah blah blah, join a conference fully, blah. ND, Canes in, Bama out.
ND hate should be greater than it is. Miami beat ND in head to head. Miami beat ND. Miami beat ND. End of discussion. ND needs to be brought down to it knees and made to join a conference like everyone else.
 
The ND hate is ridiculous. Stop and look at it rationally. ND team at present is far better than Bama or Miami. Ranked ahead of Miami at the time these jokers were deliberating, and they also decided they needed 5 SEC teams in the 12. Really? It’s political, money, blah blah blah, join a conference fully, blah. ND, Canes in, Bama out.
They lost to Miami head to head. To me that is all I need to know. Alabama shouldn’t be there either, but they always seem to get a little extra help.
 
The funny thing that comes to my mind reading all these bickering posts is that for all of the gyrations of top-level college football through the BCS and various iterations of the CFP we're only marginally better off (at best) than we were 30 years ago with the straight-up AP/Coaches Poll determining the national championship.
 
typical. They always take-take-take given their unique situation. I get it makes sense to maximize your position, but at some point I think it can cross over into being immoral. They were fiven a high profile home for a LONG time in the Big East for EVERY sport besides football, and that’s when it was a HUGE boost to the second biggest moneymaker in college-mens basketball. They took ALL of those benefits and “rewarded” UConn with ONE football game in exchange for ALL they gained from UConn. For me, it is ALWAYS “F ND.” Always.
ND AD blasts ACC commish for “pushing” Miami for the playoff spot claiming ND is a valued member of the ACC in 24 sports. Yet ND stood to gain $4m if they made the playoffs and because they are not a football member of the ACC they would not have to share any of it with them. They always want it both ways just like when they wouldn’t honor the home and home with us because they wanted to play the UConn home game in either The Meadowlands or in Gillette. I say, screw them whether they rightfully belonged in the playoffs or not.
 
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ND hate should be greater than it is. Miami beat ND in head to head. Miami beat ND. Miami beat ND. End of discussion. ND needs to be brought down to it knees and made to join a conference like everyone else.
ND hate should be greater than it is. Miami beat ND in head to head. Miami beat ND. Miami beat ND. End of discussion. ND needs to be brought down to it knees and made to join a conference like everyone else.
Point taken. August 31st., but still, point taken. Also Duke won the ACC, of which Miami is a member, Miami Did Not. Why not Duke?
 
The ND hate is ridiculous. Stop and look at it rationally. ND team at present is far better than Bama or Miami. Ranked ahead of Miami at the time these jokers were deliberating, and they also decided they needed 5 SEC teams in the 12. Really? It’s political, money, blah blah blah, join a conference fully, blah. ND, Canes in, Bama out.

You cannot be serious. ND’s schedule was garbage and lost to Miami head to head.
 
ND AD blasts ACC commish for “pushing” Miami for the playoff spot claiming ND is a valued member of the ACC in 24 sports. Yet ND stood to gain $4m if they made the playoffs and because they are not a football member of the ACC they would not have to share any of it with them. They always want it both ways just like when they wouldn’t honor the home and home with us because they wanted to play the UConn home game in either The Meadowlands or in Gillette. I say, screw them whether they rightfully belonged in the playoffs or not.
100% agree with you!
 
Point taken. August 31st., but still, point taken. Also Duke won the ACC, of which Miami is a member, Miami Did Not. Why not Duke?
Are you really asking why Duke isn't in the playoff? Also, the games count, regardless of when they were played. Nice effort by ND to keep it close, maybe they will do better next time.
 
ND hate should be greater than it is. Miami beat ND in head to head. Miami beat ND. Miami beat ND. End of discussion. ND needs to be brought down to it knees and made to join a conference like everyone else.
Because? Conform or else? Uconn belongs in a conference. I hear the sun belt is nice
 
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Because? Conform or else? Uconn belongs in a conference. I hear the sun belt is nice
Ha! Fantastic. You don’t see the hypocrisy of ND, demanding special treatment in football and then being upset when they are hurt by the special treatment they demanded?
 
Ha! Fantastic. You don’t see the hypocrisy of ND, demanding special treatment in football and then being upset when they are hurt by the special treatment they demanded?
You mean the special treatment that miami received despite being bad
 
Because? Conform or else? Uconn belongs in a conference. I hear the sun belt is nice
ND is free to pursue their dream of being offered membership in the Sun Belt Conference. I'm sure they'll receive consideration. But it's gotta be for all sports, no exceptions.
Meanwhile UConn will be happy to accept full time membership in the ACC (for all sports, no exceptions).
Yeah, Sun Belt would be a decent fit for ND.
 
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Notre Dame is the most self entitled organization in college sports and it’s been proven out in the last 4 days.
I had some sympathy for them, but they are clearly a delusional group from the top down. They truly have convinced themselves that they have some generational team, playing at some historic level of football. Pathetic.
 
I haven't looked up the tiebreaker rules the ACC has in place but the idea that Duke was one of the top two teams when those rules were applied doesn't seem to make sense. I would have believed that someone would have needed to devise the criteria after the fact to get them in the top two.

That is entirely on the ACC and in all candor, it would have served them right if they were locked out of the CFP this year.

There were a couple things the CFP could have done in advance of all of this, but they intentionally did not as a) they knew it would have been a very bad look (even though it would have been exactly how they think) and b) they never considered the possibility of it being necessary.

They could have given each of the P-4 automatic bids. They didn't because with their rule of five highest ranked conference champs, they believed the P-4 would always be 80% of the top five. Leaving the language as they did allowed them to claim they were giving G level schools a fair chance at qualifying (even though they really weren't).

They could have capped G level champions at one spot in the field. Again, they never thought this could be necessary and they didn't want it said that they were intentionally preventing schools from access.

I would like anyone who believes Notre Dame was cheated to tell me how they would have felt if everything with Miami and ND (record, strength of schedule, performance week by week) were flipped (and ND had the head to head win) yet with that, Miami had been selected, what would your reaction have been? Would you have then said the committee got it right? Would you then complain about head to head results?
 
Anyone else enjoying gimber's commitment to the bit? I'm thinking if he had a defense for ND's petulance and poor sportsmanship we'd hear it.
 
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I haven't looked up the tiebreaker rules the ACC has in place but the idea that Duke was one of the top two teams when those rules were applied doesn't seem to make sense.
Well Tom, I did look up the ACC tiebreaker rules and here's the ridiculous reality: Had the ACC used any other Power Conference’s tie-breaking system the league would have sent a different participant to the title game than Duke. Here's who would have played Virginia had the ACC been using the tie breaking systems of the other conferences. (interestingly each of the other conference tiebreak systems would have created a different opponent for Virginia--perhaps a reason for tie breaking to use a uniform system) Under the SEC's tie breaking system Virginias opponent would have been Louisville, Big Ten's--North Carolina, Big 12's--NC State, even the old Pac-12's — Clemson. In every one of those alternate formats, whoever won the ACC Championship game would be the ACC champion--and Virginia --or any of those four others would have outranked James Madison and officially taken the auto-bid-- and Notre Dame would have punched its ticket as an at-large. Happiness was that close!
The truth is simple:
Everything that happened was downstream from that single, avoidable, debacle caused by the ACC's convoluted tie-break fiasco. Now, all of the ensuing (and I say dangerous) national debate over whether the G5 should ever have any access to the CFP, never mind all of the vitriol and fury surrounding the Notre Dame snub--all the criticism and hand-wringing about the CFP format design — all of it--was triggered not by the playoff system or the committee, but by the ACC's idiotic tie/breaker which ended up choosing the one team the system could not process cleanly.
The CFP didn’t blow it.
The ACC did.
 

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