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This is gonna be the most interesting season ever, got the northeast with the Celtics, Nets, 76ers, and just throw in the Knicks for entertainment I guess. The West Coast you got the Warriors of course, Clippers, Lakers and Kings.
 
Butch said:
So Big 3 days are essentially over because the best players want depth. And so that they can relax. Kawhi just revolutionized the NBA. Toronto couldn't match the Clippers for George. Had they, Kawhi would have stayed in Toronto. The players recognize the market Canada provides now.

Lakers should win some but really lack depth. Thunder and Knicks look inept. You don't make a trade for draft picks with a Jerry West-run team. It's unlikely they'll be lottery picks.
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Two of the draft picks come from Miami. They have five first-rounders with the possibility of two pick swaps. And this is in addition to a very promising young player in Alexander. This is a massive haul for George and Oklahoma City should be commended.
 
superjohn said:
And absolutely nobody in the league wants Russell Westbrook.
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To be clear, no one wants a massive contract with 4 years left on it for a soon to be 31 year old guard that depends on his athleticism. Westbrook is still a top player, for now. The contract is a problem.
 
Butch said:
So Big 3 days are essentially over because the best players want depth. And so that they can relax. Kawhi just revolutionized the NBA. Toronto couldn't match the Clippers for George. Had they, Kawhi would have stayed in Toronto. The players recognize the market Canada provides now.

Lakers should win some but really lack depth. Thunder and Knicks look inept. You don't make a trade for draft picks with a Jerry West-run team. It's unlikely they'll be lottery picks.
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The Thunder turned Serge Ibaka into 7 1sts, Gallinari, and Gilgous-Alexander. Not sure inept is the word I'd go with
 
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Walker11 said:
This is a massive haul for George and Oklahoma City should be commended.
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Yes and no. If the Clippers stay good, the pick swaps are worthless and the draft picks will be in the 20s. It's good, yes, but it's only very good if the Clippers fall off in 3-4 years.

If I'm the Thunder, since you aren't going to be able to trade Westbrook, I'm thinking about how to package these picks in a year or two for good players.
 
Walker11 said:
Two of the draft picks come from Miami. They have five first-rounders with the possibility of two pick swaps. And this is in addition to a very promising young player in Alexander. This is a massive haul for George and Oklahoma City should be commended.
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Durant gone, Harden gone, Ibaka gone, Paul George gone. Westbrook stays. They managed to keep the one guy nobody wants to play with.

That's an unbelievable amount of talent with nothing to show for it and now they need a complete reset.
 
Guess Westbrook can have fun putting up some more triple-double seasons.
 
starting to think folks might be snoozing on the drose to pistons move. former mvp who just might be past the constant injury phase of his career. many times, as ballers exit their 20s, injuries either accelerate (common), or decelerate (not so uncommon) into their 30s. drummond, griffin, and rose firing on all cylinders could be a 'big three.' andre rules-#1 offensive rebounder every year since 2013, and he is only 26. steadily tearing up some record books. dang
 
He always nails it...
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nelsonmuntz said:
The Lakers ended the 2018 with a good young team that had won 35 games in a tough West despite Lonzo Ball and Ingram missing over a quarter of the season each, and they barely played Brook Lopez. Then they add LeBron. If they had stopped right there, they would have won 55+ games this past season and challenged the Warriors in the West.

Instead they made stupid move after stupid move, until now they have gutted their roster and their future for what is effectively one year of Anthony Davis. Ball, Ingram, Hart, Randle, and Lopez are gone, in addition to 3 first round draft picks.
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challenge the warriors in the west?? did you watch that lakers at all during the stretch last year?? they lost to the suns and knicks in the same week i believe. i’m baffled people think lakers are worse off after AD trade. you have lebron for four years, you do everything to win now in that window. and it ain’t getting done with brandon ingram taking 18 shots a game.
 
superjohn said:
He always nails it...
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I think Kawhi's camp surreptitiously put out a lot of misinformation. They needed to convince the clippers that the other teams were real threats so that they would be highly motivated to deal with OKC and quickly. The same with Jalen Rose swearing at 99% confidence that he is taking a 2 year deal with Toronto.

The brillance of Kawhi really is breathtaking. I think he realized how
difficult it is to keep a super team of 3 top 10 players happy so the Lakers were off the table. And the Clippers needed another star (but no more than 2).

King of the North -> King of the NBA
 
eebmg said:
I think Kawhi's camp surreptitiously put out a lot of misinformation. They needed to convince the clippers that the other teams were real threats so that they would be highly motivated to deal with OKC and quickly. The same with Jalen Rose swearing at 99% confidence that he is taking a 2 year deal with Toronto.

The brillance of Kawhi really is breathtaking. I think he realized how
difficult it is to keep a super team of 3 top 10 players happy so the Lakers were off the table. And the Clippers needed another star (but no more than 2).

King of the North -> King of the NBA
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I think it's more likely that Kawhi and his camp were just quiet. It looks more and more like Magic was behind the initial whirlwind of Laker rumours. I'd bet people who thought they were close to the situation projected what they wanted to happen onto the situation.

It seems clear that his first choice was always finding another star to join him with the Clippers. His first call was to KD but that partnership obviously fell through.
 
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eebmg said:
I think Kawhi's camp surreptitiously put out a lot of misinformation. They needed to convince the clippers that the other teams were real threats so that they would be highly motivated to deal with OKC and quickly. The same with Jalen Rose swearing at 99% confidence that he is taking a 2 year deal with Toronto.

The brillance of Kawhi really is breathtaking. I think he realized how
difficult it is to keep a super team of 3 top 10 players happy so the Lakers were off the table. And the Clippers needed another star (but no more than 2).

King of the North -> King of the NBA
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Seems like Kawhi wanted the Clippers the whole time, wanted another star and to screw over the Lakers. That's pretty great in my book.
 
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Now Westbrook wants a trade. Yup, excellent front office. Let us commend them. Lose all of their future Hall of Famers via free agency or forced trades.

Oh yeah, hard to see a Riley-run Heat organization getting high end lottery picks, too. Sheesh. Fans of the Thunder and Sonics have been robbed by Clay Bennett.
 
Butch said:
Now Westbrook wants a trade. Yup, excellent front office. Let us commend them. Lose all of their future Hall of Famers via free agency or forced trades.

Oh yeah, hard to see a Riley-run Heat organization getting high end lottery picks, too. Sheesh. Fans of the Thunder and Sonics have been robbed by Clay Bennett.
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The story will make a good 30 for 30 one day. Presti has made some good individual moves but just an utter failure overall. I have always been baffled that he is held in such high regard, even though I think this was a good return.

Btw I think Riley has lost it. Look at the contracts they have given to Waiters, Whiteside, Tyler Johnson, Kelly Olynyck and James Johnson. I don't get the Butler deal. It's a capped out team with 6 seed upside led by a player who got years of the Thibs treatment.
 
Cousins to the lakers so reuniting with and Davis from NO. Another injury prone player to the lineup. Also, they bring back rondo which is a smart move.
 
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Zach Lowe : All year the Clippers have been stalking Kawhi Leonard more than I stalked ex-girlfriends. Talk about telling on yourself.
 
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lakers clipper warriors rockets bucks sixers ~utah. so great having so many legitimate title contenders next year. throw in nets, boston, portland, denver as teams a move/breakout player away (the nets are a kd recovery away)
 
Walker11 said:
It seems weird that I even need to say this but the Lakers are going to be very good.
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I think it's really only Nelson who thinks they're going to suck. He also thinks Westbrook and Paul George are better than Lebron and AD, superstars are overrated, and a bunch of other crazy s***.
 
Boogie and Rondo on the same team strikes me as something the Lakers may come to regret.

The Lakers' roster right now:

PG: Rondo, Quinn Cook
SG: Danny Green, KCP, Troy Daniels
SF: LeBron, Jared Dudley
PF: Kuzma, Jonathan Williams
PF/C: Davis, Cousins, McGee
 
tzznandrew said:
Boogie and Rondo on the same team strikes me as something the Lakers may come to regret.

The Lakers' roster right now:

PG: Rondo, Quinn Cook
SG: Danny Green, KCP, Troy Daniels
SF: LeBron, Jared Dudley
PF: Kuzma, Jonathan Williams
PF/C: Davis, Cousins, McGee
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This is a VERY good team.
 
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tzznandrew said:
Boogie and Rondo on the same team strikes me as something the Lakers may come to regret.

The Lakers' roster right now:

PG: Rondo, Quinn Cook
SG: Danny Green, KCP, Troy Daniels
SF: LeBron, Jared Dudley
PF: Kuzma, Jonathan Williams
PF/C: Davis, Cousins, McGee
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I don't disagree but that played well together and got along great with the Pelicans (with AD obviously).
 
Walker11 said:
The story will make a good 30 for 30 one day. Presti has made some good individual moves but just an utter failure overall. I have always been baffled that he is held in such high regard, even though I think this was a good return.

Btw I think Riley has lost it. Look at the contracts they have given to Waiters, Whiteside, Tyler Johnson, Kelly Olynyck and James Johnson. I don't get the Butler deal. It's a capped out team with 6 seed upside led by a player who got years of the Thibs treatment.
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They are going to be free of a lot of that money in another season. You've got to have a star or two on your team in this league, and now they have one. I wouldn't doubt his ability to build that team up one more time.
 
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