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Kevin Ollie
Took Calhoun 14 years after he made a bad team good before he finally made it great. Not apples to apples, but still sometimes it’s not the coach that needs to change.Yup. Thibs can make a bad team good, but can't make a good team great, and that's the issue. Don't think Brown is the answer either though, I'd be happy with Malone or Bryant
They were great before they won a title. He had them as a No. 1 seed in year four. In 1996 they entered the NCAAs at 30-2.Took Calhoun 14 years after he made a bad team good before he finally made it great. Not apples to apples, but still sometimes it’s not the coach that needs to change.
And sometimes it's been obvious since the day he was hired that the coach needed to change. Championship windows are small and wasting another season of a championship caliber core with a coach who has no chance of winning a title would have been dumbTook Calhoun 14 years after he made a bad team good before he finally made it great. Not apples to apples, but still sometimes it’s not the coach that needs to change.
And Mike Francesa spent the next three years saying how Calhoun isn't the guy to get you to the next level.They were great before they won a title. He had them as a No. 1 seed in year four. In 1996 they entered the NCAAs at 30-2.
How creative pile onto a narrative instead of having a mind of your own.I'm a huge Knick fan and what they did to Tib's was a disgrace. Their head coaching search was never thought through and now the organization has egg on their face. Coach Hurley or any coach for that matter need to be out of their minds to accept that position.
They are going to have to get lucky with a 1st-time coach. Who must be willing to take notes from Rick Brunson.I'm a huge Knick fan and what they did to Tib's was a disgrace. Their head coaching search was never thought through and now the organization has egg on their face. Coach Hurley or any coach for that matter need to be out of their minds to accept that position.
I'm a huge Knick fan and what they did to Tib's was a disgrace. Their head coaching search was never thought through and now the organization has egg on their face. Coach Hurley or any coach for that matter need to be out of their minds to accept that position.
How creative pile onto a narrative instead of having a mind of your own.
No, it's not. They got rid of a bad coach and have their pick of multiple better coaches. This narrative that its a blunder to take their time and actually interview multiple options instead of rushing into a hire is bizarreWhy say that? Any Knick fan should be frustrated. They have no options and they already had a pretty good coach under contract. It’s a very fair narrative as uncreative as it might be. Dolan and co. have made their bed. This is just one in a long line of embarrassing blunders.
Of course they have options. I'm surprised they fired him without having their guy lined up to quickly announce but they have options.Why say that? Any Knick fan should be frustrated. They have no options and they already had a pretty good coach under contract. It’s a very fair narrative as uncreative as it might be. Dolan and co. have made their bed. This is just one in a long line of embarrassing blunders.
Thibs frustrates me because the same flaws he had back when he coached the Bulls are still there but it's crazy to call him a bad coach.No, it's not. They got rid of a bad coach and have their pick of multiple better coaches. This narrative that its a blunder to take their time and actually interview multiple options instead of rushing into a hire is bizarre
What about the narrative that they didn't get their first six or seven choices already?This narrative that its a blunder to take their time and actually interview multiple options instead of rushing into a hire is bizarre
I would say that narrative is objectively falseWhat about the narrative that they didn't get their first six or seven choices already?
Yeah bad coach is definitely harsh, he's not a bad coach. But he wasn't winning a championship and needed to goThibs frustrates me because the same flaws he had back when he coached the Bulls are still there but it's crazy to call him a bad coach.
I don't think you know what objectively false is. Even ChatGPT will tell you "The New York Knicks have faced multiple rejections in their search for a new head coach following the dismissal of Tom Thibodeau."I would say that narrative is objectively false
And what I'm saying is those guys were not higher on their list than the guys still available. Jason Kidd is the only one there's an argument for and I think they legitimately wanted more than Brown, Jenkins, Malone, BryantI don't think you know what objectively false is. Even ChatGPT will tell you "The New York Knicks have faced multiple rejections in their search for a new head coach following the dismissal of Tom Thibodeau."
How does that make sense? Why would they put themselves through the humiliation of being told no if they weren’t a priority?And what I'm saying is those guys were not higher on their list than the guys still available.
Because to rational human beings that's not humiliating and it's just doing their due diligence as they should be doingHow does that make sense? Why would they put themselves through the humiliation of being told no if they weren’t a priority?
I'm not frustrated I know shame on me right. I react to how the next hire works out. I react to real news and not social media fodder. I know it's the normal thing these days to jump onto a narrative and not have a mind of your own but I'm not doing that.Why say that? Any Knick fan should be frustrated. They have no options and they already had a pretty good coach under contract. It’s a very fair narrative as uncreative as it might be. Dolan and co. have made their bed. This is just one in a long line of embarrassing blunders.
So as a rational human being, what you are telling me is that the Knicks going to all these teams asking for permission and being told to pound sand was just "due diligence"? That they were crossing the guys they didn't really want off their list before they started to pursue their preferred targets? What if the answer was yes? Were they going say "just kidding"?Because to rational human beings that's not humiliating and it's just doing their due diligence as they should be doing
No, they were going to interview them and then decide if they wanted to hire them. All I'm saying is that there's no evidence they're left with options 6-12 after some teams denied them permission. Some of those guys like Jason Kidd were presumed top targets, most of those guys like Billy Donovan and Quin Snyder had no chance of ever getting the job. And the larger point is that all of options 1-12 are better than the alternative in another season of Tom ThibodeauSo as a rational human being, what you are telling me is that the Knicks going to all these teams asking for permission and being told to pound sand was just "due diligence"? That they were crossing the guys they didn't really want off their list before they started to pursue their preferred targets? What if the answer was yes? Were they going say "just kidding"?