OT Kinda: Men’s CBB Today

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Yes, that's why I said largely down because there's always going to be exceptions. Which is why it broke a record from 2020 and not 2023

The Wolverines’ first national title in nearly three decades ranks as a top 15 cable telecast all-time and the fourth-best non-NFL sports telecast since 2018.

 

[superjohn]

You said the numbers don't bare that. I gave you numbers and you're still in disagreement.. without anything to substantiate it other than that's what you think?

I threw out the title games, final 4 and regional finals all being down. More people watch MM than the regular season. So, unless your supposition is that the regular season ratings were up and MM was down, I don't see your point.

Yep, you posted an opinion piece that talks about the writer's opinion on why late March Madness #'s are down, it doesn't even align with your opinions in post #26 which I responded to. I gave you my opinion on why those numbers are down.

Your post was about the regular season. Then you posted in another post about four of the last 6 title games being the lowest. I told you some of those games were on cable TV and it's about matchups. Nothing about last season, nothing about the opening round.

 

[superjohn]

So the bigs today are better than guys like Anthony Davis, Jared Sullinger, Jahlil Okafor, Deandre Ayton, and more.

Got it.

The bigs are different today and yes I'll take several recent bigs over all those guys except for AD.

 

[August_West]

The more people that watch, the higher the value of the broacastng rights, the higher the payouts to the schools. No?

Why do I care about the value of broadcast rights? As long as college athletics are tethered to football none of this matters one whit.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Do you like watching Euroleague basketball over the NBA too?

Just go rewatch that title game and then come talk to me. It’s ugly offense, half the defense is dudes just trying to draw charges. It’s just not an aesthetically pleasing product compared to what we have today. No idea what that has to do with Euro vs NBA.

 

[aceboon]

Also, more people watch and care about your team and players being dominant.

Like 13 years later guys are talking about Kemba’s sneaker collection because he was so popular (and made casuals want to watch) which is insane.

I miss the days when guys really broke out heat like this, now everyone pretty much wears the standard team issued PEs

 

[Deleted at users request]

Just go rewatch that title game and then come talk to me. It’s ugly offense, half the defense is dudes just trying to draw charges. It’s just not an aesthetically pleasing product compared to what we have today. No idea what that has to do with Euro vs NBA.

Personally, i don’t care as much about watching really good offense as i do about watching special talent.

The draw to the game is watching a Rip Hamilton as a young star and on Duke’s side Shane Battier battle it out. If you’d rather watch great offense over great talent I feel like that’s the equivalent of wanting to watch Euro basketball over the NBA.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Yep, you posted an opinion piece that talks about the writer's opinion on why late March Madness #'s are down, it doesn't even align with your opinions in post #26 which I responded to. I gave you my opinion on why those numbers are down.

Your post was about the regular season. Then you posted in another post about four of the last 6 title games being the lowest. I told you some of those games were on cable TV and it's about matchups. Nothing about last season, nothing about the opening round.

Nobody is stopping you from posting numbers speaking to the contrary.

CBB numbers are down and it seems impossible to argue that it isn't because of the reasons I cited above.

 

[August_West]

Personally, i don’t care as much about watching really good offense as i do about watching special talent.

The draw to the game is watching a Rip Hamilton as a young star and on Duke’s side Shane Battier battle it out. If you’d rather watch great offense over great talent I feel like that’s the equivalent of wanting to watch Euro basketball over the NBA.

Then you shouldnt watch college hoops. Like Calhoun once said. “In college you root for the front of the jerseys in the nba you root for the back. “ And that was in an era when players stayed 3-4 years! My favorite sports team for 40 years has been the people wearing Connecticut across the front. Didn’t and doesn’t matter “ special talent” lololol.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Personally, i don’t care as much about watching really good offense as i do about watching special talent.

The draw to the game is watching a Rip Hamilton as a young star and on Duke’s side Shane Battier battle it out. If you’d rather watch great offense over great talent I feel like that’s the equivalent of wanting to watch Euro basketball over the NBA.

Your comp is nonsensical. The NBA is a better product than Euro and has better talent. I get that you’d rather watch star players than better basketball, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a better product now.

 

[navery12]

Then you shouldnt watch college hoops. Like Calhoun once said. “In college you root for the front of the jerseys in the nba you root for the back. “ And that was in an era when players stayed 3-4 years! My favorite sports team for 40 years has been the people wearing Connecticut across the front. Didn’t and doesn’t matter “ special talent” lololol.

He's already admitted he doesn't even watch college basketball outside UConn. Yet he's the expert and we should all listen to his opinion on how bad the game is

 

[superjohn]

Then you shouldnt watch college hoops. Like Calhoun once said. “In college you root for the front of the jerseys in the nba you root for the back. “ And that was in an era when players stayed 3-4 years! My favorite sports team for 40 years has been the people wearing Connecticut across the front. Didn’t and doesn’t matter “ special talent” lololol.

He doesn't watch college basketball.

 

[Deleted at users request]

Your comp is nonsensical. The NBA is a better product than Euro and has better talent. I get that you’d rather watch star players than better basketball, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a better product now.

Don’t they run better offense in Europe though? That’s why the NBA has been trying to emulate it.

Then you shouldnt watch college hoops. Like Calhoun once said. “In college you root for the front of the jerseys in the nba you root for the back. “ And that was in an era when players stayed 3-4 years! My favorite sports team for 40 years has been the people wearing Connecticut across the front. Didn’t and doesn’t matter “ special talent” lololol.

I too love UConn and it makes me really proud all the stars we’ve been able to produce with our jersey on. It makes us really fun to watch.

I never cared that Caron, Ben, Emeka, Kemba, etc etc weren’t a part of the best offenses. Did you not still love watching all those guys play?

Calhoun also said you adjust your offense to your players not vice versa if we want to pull Calhoun quotes. So there’s no “one offense fits all” style.

 

[August_West]

He doesn't watch college basketball.

Why’s he posting here then? Its all so confusing,

 

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He's already admitted he doesn't even watch college basketball outside UConn. Yet he's the expert and we should all listen to his opinion on how bad the game is

Why does not watching todays game stretched to not knowing general basketball?

 

[August_West]

Don’t they run better offense in Europe though? That’s why the NBA has been trying to emulate it.

I too love UConn and it makes me really proud all the stars we’ve been able to produce with our jersey on. It makes us really fun to watch.

I never cared that Caron, Ben, Emeka, Kemba, etc etc weren’t a part of the best offenses. Did you not still love watching all those guys play?

Calhoun also said you adjust your offense to your players not vice versa if we want to pull Calhoun quotes. So there’s no “one offense fits all” style.

We haven’t produced that many. If stars are your thing rupps rafters and the devils den are this way>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[superjohn]

Why’s he posting here then? Its all so confusing,

I have no idea.

 

[Deleted at users request]

We haven’t produced that many. If stars are your thing rupps rafters and the devils den are this way>>>>>>>>>>>

We were up there as the best for producing NBA talent under Calhoun.

I know this because I argued with my UNC friends about this often lmao.

We don’t have to downplay how good we are as a program to defend todays game.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Don’t they run better offense in Europe though?

No… have you watched the NBA recently?

 

[mauconnfan]

With all the womens college hoops talk in the middle of this thread I am wondering where @Deepster is??

 

[navery12]

Why does not watching todays game stretched to not knowing general basketball?

Because we're not talking about knowing college basketball, we're talking about whether the modern game is better than previous generations. And that requires watching basketball currently

 

[superjohn]

No… have you watched the NBA recently?

All those superstars and the finals ratings blow year after year compared to what they use to be.

It's impossible to think it's anything other than the transfer portal, G league, Overtime Elite etc.

 

[Deleted at users request]

Because we're not talking about knowing college basketball, we're talking about whether the modern game is better than previous generations. And that requires watching basketball currently

You don’t think someone could tell that watching every single UConn game and seeing how we, as well as other teams play? Especially with our schedule this year?

All those superstars and the finals ratings blow year after year compared to what they use to be.

It's impossible to think it's anything other than the transfer portal, G league, Overtime Elite etc.

Can we please stop saying anything without proof.

If you’re talking specifically about the Finals, yes Jokic and Butler aren’t really the biggest ‘stars’.

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[superjohn]

You don’t think someone could tell that watching every single UConn game and seeing how we, as well as other teams play? Especially with our schedule this year?



Can we please stop saying anything without proof.

If you’re talking specifically about the Finals, yes Jokic and Butler aren’t really the biggest ‘stars’.

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[navery12]

You don’t think someone could tell that watching every single UConn game and seeing how we, as well as other teams play? Especially with our schedule this year?



Can we please stop saying anything without proof.

If you’re talking specifically about the Finals, yes Jokic and Butler aren’t really the biggest ‘stars’.

Ratings Roundup: NBA Playoffs Most Watched Across ABC, ESPN, TNT and NBA TV in 11 Years - Sports Video Group

Ratings Roundup is a rundown of recent rating news and is derived from press releases and reports around the industry. In this week’s edition, PLL opening weekend is most viewed...

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Honestly, no. I don't think you will get even anywhere close to a full view of where the modern college basketball game is by watching UConn or UNC or any one team

 

[Deleted at users request]

Honestly, no. I don't think you will get even anywhere close to a full view of where the modern college basketball game is by watching UConn or UNC or any one team

Got it. Watching 5 top 20 teams wouldn’t give someone a good view of modern college basketball (6 technically).

Good to know.

 

[navery12]

Got it. Watching 5 top 20 teams wouldn’t give someone a good view of modern college basketball (6 technically).

Good to know.

Happy to help. March Madness is coming up so happy to fill in the gaps and let you know about the star players you're not familiar with as well. Just let me know

 

[Deleted at users request]

Happy to help. March Madness is coming up so happy to fill in the gaps and let you know about the star players you're not familiar with as well. Just let me know

I’m excited to learn about the transfer from South Dakota state that averages 20 PPG as one of the most exciting players in the game!

 

[WhereistheDove?]

All those superstars and the finals ratings blow year after year compared to what they use to be.

It's impossible to think it's anything other than the transfer portal, G league, Overtime Elite etc.

Is any sport other than football immune from this? Pretty sure ratings are down across the board on the sports front. Americans watch way less TV now than they did previously, lots of folks have gotten rid of linear TV, and there are way more entertainment options now than in the past. Football is the outlier here.

 

[superjohn]

I’m excited to learn about the transfer from South Dakota state that averages 20 PPG as one of the most exciting players in the game!

I'll fill you in a little. His name is Dalton Knecht, he plays for Tennessee who is ranked #5 in the country, he's going to be first team all-American, and he'll be a top 10 pick. He scored 37 against UNC, 36 against Georgia, 39 against Florida, 32 against Vandy, 31 against South Carolina, 39 against Auburn, 40 against Kentucky.