OT Kevin Durant is Becoming a Head Case

[MadDogRevival]

I think we've just passed by "too big for his britches."
Last night Steve Kerr came out and said that the players were playing like they did not care.
What does KD do?
Comes out immediately after and says that the players all care, but he "understands why Kerr would say that." Oh my.
Seriously KD? They won one and made it to one and were the favorites to win another before you got there.

Starting to wonder if KD is a bit of a cancer for team chemistry.

Good luck with that Steve - don't envy you on that point.

 

[KemBaller]

Yeah but heel turns as they exist in the WWE are precisely calculated shifts in acted character personae and narratives to advance fabricated stories to artificially drive up interest.

inb4



Kevin Durant is a real guy acting one way for 9 years, then claiming that was all "fake" and now acting out an actually pathetically transparently fake tough guy persona that we treat like we treat @Chief00 's persona as an insider. He's not actually tough and physically challenging guys. It's his whining and verbally abusing officials that's earning him these Ts and ejections. It's his bickering with media nerds holding microphones that is further driving down his likability.

He's no villain; let alone an interesting one. He just seems lost to me.

You might actually be my least favorite poster. It's like you don't understand the thing that Stephen A does is an act.

 

[MadDogRevival]

On second thought, he’s the one who uttered that asinine “master” quote regarding Steve Kerr. Screw him too

Oh, not just that. Also this:

“We gotta score more than the other team. Yep, they want dumb n—-s, so I’m going to give y’all a dumb n—-.”

“What would a dumb n—- say? ‘Just play harder. Figure it out. Change gonna come.’ You know what we used to say. Change gonna come.”

Clearly he has pretty strong beliefs about race, and he seems to be strongly suggesting that that is a master/slave relationship between him and his coach and/or owner.
I understand his thought on it completely. As much as he makes, as rich as he is, the fact is he has to take orders from another person, his continued livelihood depends on that, and if he gets too far out of line there will be monetary repercussions. The rest of us view that as "having a job," but there's something about being elite, like him, that tends to transmogrify that basic thought into something else - something that forgets the basic concept that he is not obligated to work for the Warriors.

 

[MadDogRevival]

your old man politics are going the way of the dodo bird. athletes are people. they can hold whatever beliefs they have and can choose to share it whenever they want.

Meh. It's not "old man politics." It's more, "can't I just enjoy this game that I watch without having politics smashed in my face?"
It's about losing something, not about political disagreement.
I frankly don't care what's up all the athlete's and singer's and actor's collective rectums. Just don't care. Don't care if they're pro this or pro that. Anti this or Anti that. Love the prez or hate the prez.
I don't care. That's the issue. I don't care what they think, anymore than they care what I think.
I completely laud them for their inspired protest of . . . whatever. I don't care. The world would be a more livable place if more people, famous and not, would stand up and peacefully make their point.
So, for me, it's not about whatever issue is being raised. I'm very happy to hear all sides of any issue.

It's the fact that I bust my rear end all week long, I vet out the issues of the day to the extent I choose, in my own head and among family and friends, and the entire purpose of me sitting down to watch UConn or a Pats game or the random Cavaliers game is . . . to be entertained.
It's that simple.
When they insist on inserting politics - of any kind - into my entertainment, it's less entertaining for me.

On the other hand, I find the demise of professional sports in this country to be long overdue and refreshing, so I'm enjoying watching the NFL eat its own legs.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Meh. It's not "old man politics." It's more, "can't I just enjoy this game that I watch without having politics smashed in my face?"
It's about losing something, not about political disagreement.
I frankly don't care what's up all the athlete's and singer's and actor's collective rectums. Just don't care. Don't care if they're pro this or pro that. Anti this or Anti that. Love the prez or hate the prez.
I don't care. That's the issue. I don't care what they think, anymore than they care what I think.
I completely laud them for their inspired protest of . . . whatever. I don't care. The world would be a more livable place if more people, famous and not, would stand up and peacefully make their point.
So, for me, it's not about whatever issue is being raised. I'm very happy to hear all sides of any issue.

It's the fact that I bust my rear end all week long, I vet out the issues of the day to the extent I choose, in my own head and among family and friends, and the entire purpose of me sitting down to watch UConn or a Pats game or the random Cavaliers game is . . . to be entertained.
It's that simple.
When they insist on inserting politics - of any kind - into my entertainment, it's less entertaining for me.

On the other hand, I find the demise of professional sports in this country to be long overdue and refreshing, so I'm enjoying watching the NFL eat its own legs.

The reason this is complete nonsense is that you can most certainly be entertained by these atheletes without hearing about their politics - does Lebron wear an anti-NRA jersey or give anti-Trump speeches from the free throw line? Of course not. Their political activity doesn’t interfere with your enjoyment of the game in any way. Based on your post about Iguodala, it’s pretty clear that you just don’t like the opinions being expressed.

But don’t get it confused. You definitely care.

 

[JMick]

Meh. It's not "old man politics." It's more, "can't I just enjoy this game that I watch without having politics smashed in my face?"
It's about losing something, not about political disagreement.
I frankly don't care what's up all the athlete's and singer's and actor's collective rectums. Just don't care. Don't care if they're pro this or pro that. Anti this or Anti that. Love the prez or hate the prez.
I don't care. That's the issue. I don't care what they think, anymore than they care what I think.
I completely laud them for their inspired protest of . . . whatever. I don't care. The world would be a more livable place if more people, famous and not, would stand up and peacefully make their point.
So, for me, it's not about whatever issue is being raised. I'm very happy to hear all sides of any issue.

It's the fact that I bust my rear end all week long, I vet out the issues of the day to the extent I choose, in my own head and among family and friends, and the entire purpose of me sitting down to watch UConn or a Pats game or the random Cavaliers game is . . . to be entertained.
It's that simple.
When they insist on inserting politics - of any kind - into my entertainment, it's less entertaining for me.

On the other hand, I find the demise of professional sports in this country to be long overdue and refreshing, so I'm enjoying watching the NFL eat its own legs.

Oh so you just want them to dance. You sound unbelievably entitled. Athletes are people not just your entertainment

 

[August_West]

The reason this is complete nonsense is that you can most certainly be entertained by these atheletes without hearing about their politics - does Lebron wear an anti-NRA jersey or give anti-Trump speeches from the free throw line? Of course not. Their political activity doesn’t interfere with your enjoyment of the game in any way. Based on your post about Iguodala, it’s pretty clear that you just don’t like the opinions being expressed.

But don’t get it confused. You definitely care.

.............and if it bothers you that much, dont watch. Its your choice. The fact that people think athletes/entertainers are their trained monkeys and should just keep their mouths shut and entertain them is such a snowflake concept. The consumer always has a choice to vote with their dollars and attention. Telling an athlete or entertainer to "shut up and play" is the sign of a weak mind.

 

[Rocktheworld]

You might actually be my least favorite poster.

Wow, thanks homie, I’ve never been given that honor before

Feel free to post a salient point at any time

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

...and if it bothers you that much, dont watch. Its your choice. The fact that people think athletes/entertainers are their trained monkeys and should just keep their mouths shut and entertain them is such a snowflake concept. The consumer always has a choice to vote with their dollars and attention. Telling an athlete or entertainer to "shut up and play" is the sign of a weak mind.

The funny thing is that most of the "shut up and dribble" crowd was ready to elect a plumber president.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

Not to mention that ship sailed when he cried about his mommy

I know, right. Can you believe the audacity of a man to show emotions? In public?!

Everyone knows the only allowed male emotions are anger and sports-related joy, and even then, only for 14 seconds. That's the rules, guys. Sorry.

 

[polycom]

How has this thread not been punted to the pool yet? The takes are flaming hot. Someone said, "I come home from a hard week and I just want to be entertained I don't want to hear about their politics" What kind of logic is this? What about athletes are people is so hard to understand?

 

[Rocktheworld]

Everyone knows the only allowed male emotions are anger and sports-related joy, and even then, only for 14 seconds. That's the rules, guys. Sorry.

List off a few notorious “tough guys” from NBA history for me.

 

[polycom]

who would have been a hell of a lot better than a community organizer.
ok you can send it to the cesspool now.

buckley503

 

[Yardigan]

Yep, the NFL is the model of decay of pro sports...and that demise is its own separate entertainment to watch.

 

[superjohn]

who would have been a hell of a lot better than a community organizer.
ok you can send it to the cesspool now.

Sweet, William F. Buckley rose up from the dead to post this gem.

 

[FartMan69]

Meh. It's not "old man politics." It's more, "can't I just enjoy this game that I watch without having politics smashed in my face?"
It's about losing something, not about political disagreement.
I frankly don't care what's up all the athlete's and singer's and actor's collective rectums. Just don't care. Don't care if they're pro this or pro that. Anti this or Anti that. Love the prez or hate the prez.
I don't care. That's the issue. I don't care what they think, anymore than they care what I think.
I completely laud them for their inspired protest of . . . whatever. I don't care. The world would be a more livable place if more people, famous and not, would stand up and peacefully make their point.
So, for me, it's not about whatever issue is being raised. I'm very happy to hear all sides of any issue.

It's the fact that I bust my rear end all week long, I vet out the issues of the day to the extent I choose, in my own head and among family and friends, and the entire purpose of me sitting down to watch UConn or a Pats game or the random Cavaliers game is . . . to be entertained.
It's that simple.
When they insist on inserting politics - of any kind - into my entertainment, it's less entertaining for me.

On the other hand, I find the demise of professional sports in this country to be long overdue and refreshing, so I'm enjoying watching the NFL eat its own legs.

Jesus it’s not like they’re saying their beliefs mid game. For some reason the old men yelling at the clouds think that when they see a quote somewhere they believe it’s a personal attack and their way of life is under attack. It’s not and you’re just paranoid. Don’t like it? Don’t listen and stop bitching.

 

[MadDogRevival]

Their political activity doesn’t interfere with your enjoyment of the game in any way.

Can you be any more presumptuous? You literally think that you've got things so figured out that you can tell me what affects my enjoyment. Incredible lack of perspective.
Your response is very typical of the intellectual laziness that has overwhelmed this country. You don't like the fact that I don't like what you like, so I must have X [evil] opinion or be lying. Your viewpoint is simply - if you agree with the goal of the protests, you support the protests, else you don't believe in the goal, and you are a racist. Simple, easy, and wrong.

I don't want to hear about any politics from my entertainment venues. Not mine, not any.

What bugs you Ern, is you're the kind of person who likes to ram your opinions down everybody's throat because you're so cock-sure that you've got it all figured out and that anybody who doesn't agree with you is a trailer-dwelling racist, homophobic ogre.

Based on your post about Iguodala, it’s pretty clear that you just don’t like the opinions being expressed.

You're being lazy. It's what defines your rants on here.
I think the point being expressed by the NFL players is, like most points, based on some truth. Certainly there is (and always will be) racism, and certainly that racism does, often, manifest itself in police abuse (or murder) of young black men. That's the truth, and it should be openly discussed and mitigating solutions sought.
But there are many other issues - as important or moreso - that also could be addressed.
U.S. involvement in Syria. U.S. bombings of 3rd world countries. U.S. trajectory toward use of AI against citizens. U.S. citizen spying. I don't want to hear about any of those either, whether the protest is for or against my position.
It's really that simple, and I'm not sure whether it's your intellectual laziness or your incapacity to see that you don't have a monopoly on moral reasonableness.

 

[MadDogRevival]

What kind of logic is this? What about athletes are people is so hard to understand?

It's easy to understand. But it's lazy. You're saying, "they're people, so they get to express their opinions."
If you went to a comedy routine and the guy got into politics, would you go back?
If you went to Dollar General, and the cashier gave a pro/anti abortion salute prior to ringing you up?

The athletes are people with opinions and they can express those opinions.
The fans who pay them are people with opinions, and they can choose not to pay them.

Can we all agree on that?

 

[polycom]

Can you be any more presumptuous? You literally think that you've got things so figured out that you can tell me what affects my enjoyment. Incredible lack of perspective.
Your response is very typical of the intellectual laziness that has overwhelmed this country. You don't like the fact that I don't like what you like, so I must have X [evil] opinion or be lying. Your viewpoint is simply - if you agree with the goal of the protests, you support the protests, else you don't believe in the goal, and you are a racist. Simple, easy, and wrong.

I don't want to hear about any politics from my entertainment venues. Not mine, not any.

What bugs you Ern, is you're the kind of person who likes to ram your opinions down everybody's throat because you're so cock-sure that you've got it all figured out and that anybody who doesn't agree with you is a trailer-dwelling racist, homophobic ogre.


You're being lazy. It's what defines your rants on here.
I think the point being expressed by the NFL players is, like most points, based on some truth. Certainly there is (and always will be) racism, and certainly that racism does, often, manifest itself in police abuse (or murder) of young black men. That's the truth, and it should be openly discussed and mitigating solutions sought.
But there are many other issues - as important or moreso - that also could be addressed.
U.S. involvement in Syria. U.S. bombings of 3rd world countries. U.S. trajectory toward use of AI against citizens. U.S. citizen spying. I don't want to hear about any of those either, whether the protest is for or against my position.
It's really that simple, and I'm not sure whether it's your intellectual laziness or your incapacity to see that you don't have a monopoly on moral reasonableness.

MadDogRevival

 

[MadDogRevival]

Don’t like it? Don’t listen .

I don't for the most part. But it's certainly not me trying to stifle dissent in this country. Lol.

 

[polycom]

It's easy to understand. But it's lazy. You're saying, "they're people, so they get to express their opinions."
If you went to a comedy routine and the guy got into politics, would you go back?
If you went to Dollar General, and the cashier gave a pro/anti abortion salute prior to ringing you up?

The athletes are people with opinions and they can express those opinions.
The fans who pay them are people with opinions, and they can choose not to pay them.

Can we all agree on that?

Keep me out of your flaming hot takes.

 

[MadDogRevival]

Oh so you just want them to dance. You sound unbelievably entitled. Athletes are people not just your entertainment

Actually, I don't want them to do anything. Not at all. They should do exactly what they want (as long as they are not (physically) hurting any
body). They should say exactly what they want, when they want, using whatever words (non barred!) they want.
Of course they are not "just" my entertainment. Except when I'm paying them to entertain me. Of course, just like every other job in the world. I'm not paying my doctor to get his views on NSA spying, so shut up and do the doctoring. If not, I'll find another doctor.
If athletes want to inject their personal politics into the product they're selling, that's great for them. Kudos. But then they've changed the product. Right? Very simple. The product used to be basketball. Now it's basketball and whatever is up somebody's @$$. Different product. Different demand. Different willingness to pay.

Don't we all agree on this?

 

[buckley503]

Sweet, William F. Buckley rose up from the dead to post this gem.

Thank you for the compliment.
Sorry, didn't know that even the boneyard is a "safe space" for your kind.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Can you be any more presumptuous?

Yeah, probably.

 

[MadDogRevival]

Keep me out of your flaming hot takes.

Who are you? I didn't quote you. Do you work at Dollar General?