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OT: Jimmy G Traded to San Francisco

Matt (Chicago) said:
haha - as a Denver fan, you should know all about how poor QB play can ruin a team's season!
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I was thinking a meme with Pennywise the clown as a Broncos fan telling Patriots fans to come and float down in the drain when Brady retires would be appropriate. lol
 
Pats need to sign Butler and try to find a way out of the Gilmore fiasco.

Looks like they may now have the ammunition to do the Butler deal.

Also, they need major DL help (pass rushers) and LBs.

This SF pick, is essentially a late 1st rounder (will get a very solid player) or a great bargaining chip for some other kind of deal.

In HCBB I trust.
 
NielsisGood said:
This is the last year of Jimmy G's contract so wouldn't be able to make a deal after the season and Pats aren't winning a SB if Brady goes down anyways.
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Course you could. You franchise and trade him. They did the same thing with Matt Cassel (for a second rounder).
 
Matt (Chicago) said:
From what I read it sounded like the team believed Brissett had reached a plateau with his development.
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Where'd you read that? I mean, the guy was only just over a year into his NFL career. I've a hard time believing they were writing him completely off after that. If Jules and Mitchell aren't injured, I highly doubt they make a trade for Dorsett.
 
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Mots010 said:
Enjoy ageless vampire Tom Brady as long as you can, because dark days are coming.
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Shut up and eat your apple sauce.
 
Rumor has it Jimmy G balked at cheating and was sent packing.

Someone not from the Boston Globe or WEEI needs to investigate. Those media outlets are in Kraft and Belichicks pockets.
 
intlzncster said:
Where'd you read that? I mean, the guy was only just over a year into his NFL career. I've a hard time believing they were writing him completely off after that. If Jules and Mitchell aren't injured, I highly doubt they make a trade for Dorsett.
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I'm just telling you what I read, don't get mad about it. Article below, see #7 on the list. It's Mike Reiss, who is one of the more plugged in media guys in terms of the Patriots

Patriots were in a rare, low-leverage spot with Jimmy Garoppolo
 
Mots010 said:
I was thinking a meme with Pennywise the clown as a Broncos fan telling Patriots fans to come and float down in the drain when Brady retires would be appropriate. lol
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If Belichick and Brady go at the same time, then yeah, the Pats are well and truly f@#$d. Or at least as much as every other team. If BB sticks around a few more years, they'll still be very competitive. Not 5 Superbowls competitive. But not also rans.
 
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If this trade came from Belichick, I'd chalk this up to the Patriots being the Patriots. Garoppolo played six quarters of good football on a championship team under the greatest coach of all-time. He could have been good, but I don't think the certainty was much more than it would have been with your run-of-the-mill second round pick.

If Kraft forced this, it's a big deal and could signify the continued opening of a rift from within that organization. Brady has been great as usual this season, but the end usually comes fast and I don't see how you can look at that as anything other than a year to year situation right now. He's declined some - not a lot, but some - and may have benefited last season from being fresher late in the year because of the suspension. He played probably three halves of objectively bad football in last years postseason. Things like age tend to matter more in the playoffs, particularly in cold climates.

This could have the double-edged effect of chasing not only a potential franchise quarterback out the door but also Belichick, who would theoretically be less inclined post Brady to continue without a replacement in the wings. If Brady is done at 41 (how many guys have played quarterback beyond that?), suddenly this thing could all be over a lot sooner than people thought.
 
champs99and04 said:
If this trade came from Belichick, I'd chalk this up to the Patriots being the Patriots. Garoppolo played six quarters of good football on a championship team under the greatest coach of all-time. He could have been good, but I don't think the certainty was much more than it would have been with your run-of-the-mill second round pick.

If Kraft forced this, it's a big deal and could signify the continued opening of a rift from within that organization. Brady has been great as usual this season, but the end usually comes fast and I don't see how you can look at that as anything other than a year to year situation right now. He's declined some - not a lot, but some - and may have benefited last season from being fresher late in the year because of the suspension. He played probably three halves of objectively bad football in last years postseason. Things like age tend to matter more in the playoffs, particularly in cold climates.

This could have the double-edged effect of chasing not only a potential franchise quarterback out the door but also Belichick, who would theoretically be less inclined post Brady to continue without a replacement in the wings. If Brady is done at 41 (how many guys have played quarterback beyond that?), suddenly this thing could all be over a lot sooner than people thought.
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Has there been any indication anywhere that Kraft "forced" Belichick to do something? By all accounts they weren't going to be able to re-sign JG so why not get a second rounder you can potentially flip for something else?
 
champs99and04 said:
If Kraft forced this, it's a big deal and could signify the continued opening of a rift from within that organization. Brady has been great as usual this season, but the end usually comes fast and I don't see how you can look at that as anything other than a year to year situation right now. He's declined some - not a lot, but some - and may have benefited last season from being fresher late in the year because of the suspension. He played probably three halves of objectively bad football in last years postseason. Things like age tend to matter more in the playoffs, particularly in cold climates.

This could have the double-edged effect of chasing not only a potential franchise quarterback out the door but also Belichick, who would theoretically be less inclined post Brady to continue without a replacement in the wings. If Brady is done at 41 (how many guys have played quarterback beyond that?), suddenly this thing could all be over a lot sooner than people thought.
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I'd put that chance at .001%

Kraft learned pretty early on that any involvement on his part in the football side of the operation was a bad thing. Way back he forced Bill Parcells to draft Terry Glenn 7th overall against his will. Not only was Glenn a relative bust for the Pats, but this led to the rift that caused Parcells to leave (the famous "shop for the groceries" line). He swore to backoff after that, and that eventually came to fruition under BB, whose one requirement was that he have total control.

Any owner not named Jerry Jones, would give BB carte blanche, zero questions asked. You'd be utterly idiotic not to.
 
intlzncster said:
Course you could. You franchise and trade him. They did the same thing with Matt Cassel (for a second rounder).
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They actually need the franchise for Butler though. Probably more important to keep Butler via franchise than to use it to make this same exact trade in 3 months.
 
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