OT: Jameis Winston accuser tried to extort him (allegedly)

[Jax Husky]

TMZ has obtained a copy of a letter from the accuser's lawyer saying they would settle the case for a $7 million payout. I didn't want to hear any more about this story, but this does put a twist on the story.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/24/fsu-jameis-winston-rape-accuser-extortion-7-million/

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

Doesn't necessarily mean anything. Nor does it make it extortion. Her lawyer may well have seen the writing on the wall and realized there was a 0% chance they'd get a fair trial in Tallahassee.

 

[J187Money]

That's not extortion.

 

[noeynox]

Was he a star at the time all of that happened? I thought he hadn't taken a snap yet?

 

[Jax Husky]

Agreed. Jameis is an entitled immature punk, but what she did definitely amounts to extortion in my opinion. 4 days AFTER not receiving any money, she went to the media.

 

[Jax Husky]

Was he a star at the time all of that happened? I thought he hadn't taken a snap yet?

She didn't bring the case until he was a star. It came up last year while he was in the Heisman race, not 2 years ago when the event happened and he was redshirting.

 

[noeynox]

Admittedly, I haven't kept up with that case from start. But between that incident, the beebee gun thing, the stolen crab legs, and the stading on the table and yelling "fugg her right in the puggy", I don't get the idea he is real good kid. How many kids survive that many incidents at one school? Answer, one good enough to win the heisman and lead you to a national championship.

Now I could be wrong, he may be a really good kid. I don't know enough about as him as a person and while I don't eat em, my mother in law loves crab legs enough to try and sneak some out of the chinese buffet in her purse.

 

[J187Money]

Don't think you know what extortion means.

If she had said "pay me or I will go tell people you raped me" that is extortion.

She has already done that. What she is saying is that I will let this go if you pay me. Which is standard operating practice anytime someone has deep pockets. I'm not saying she is right. But it isn't extortion.

 

[husky10]

The fact that it was coming from her lawyer makes me believe it must have come from a settlement offer for a civil trial. Maybe a lawyer on this board could shed some light on a code of ethics but this being the case couldn't the lawyer be disbarred?

It's tough to tell though the article was pretty poorly written.

 

[businesslawyer]

Oh please stop. It is only extortion if she doesn't believe he raped her. If she does believe she was raped, she has every right to bring a civil lawsuit and, in lieu of putting herself through that, of offering to settle the litigation for money.

It must be great to be so omnipotent that we're comfortable not just criticizing a coach's decision not to pass but a woman who claims that she is a rape victim.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Oh please stop. It is only extortion if she doesn't believe he raped her. If she does believe she was raped, she has every right to bring a civil lawsuit and, in lieu of putting herself through that, of offering to settle the litigation for money.

It must be great to be so omnipotent that we're comfortable not just criticizing a coach's decision not to pass but a woman who claims that she is a rape victim.

Did she ever actually file a civil suit?

 

[mauconnfan]

He is not a very good guy.......he does a nice job acting the part but just the things he's done or not done, positions he's put himself in aren't pretty.

 

[J187Money]

Edit. Was mixing up rape cases.

 

[billybud]

The accuser has a new attorney...and he is walking into it.

....when some unidentified semen showed up on the accuser's shorts, the accuser said that her roommate had borrowed the shorts and that she took them back without washing.

a....the police and Winston's attorney have depositions that says that this is untrue. Monique (the rommmate) says that this did not happen.

b....the police, on a tip, traced down the DNA to a black football player who was in town (plays for an Ohio college). Who admitted to having sex with the accuser that day.

c,,,Winston's attorney says that the accuser's former attorney attempted to get Monique to lie for the accuser...(I bet he has this deposed as well).

d...the multiple stories...I was drunk and incapacitated, I was drugged, I was hit on the head...just didn't pan out.

e...the witness statements directly contradict the accuser. She ran after Winston and his roommates, jumped in the cab, and willingly went into his bedroom. She got angry when the roommates opened the door to kid them and saw them having sex...she got up and slammed the bedroom door shut.

f...there is far more evidence that this is a false accusation then that this was a valid complaint.

 

[J187Money]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...e-allegations-against-fsu-jameis-winston.html

Read this.

Of course the guy that videotaped it, who was also a teammate, said it wasn't rape. And then deleted the video.

 

[J187Money]

Billy. You may be right. And she should be prosecuted if she made a false claim. Still not extortion. She went to the cops that night.

 

[noeynox]

Oh no doubt, he just isn't someone I would give the benefit of the doubt however. There is just to much smoke with this kid. I've spent over 15 years working in the criminal justice system, and we sort of have a saying that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Not saying he previously raped someone or that he raped THIS girl. There is just too much smoke with this kid. If he didn't do it, hope he is vidicated and doesn't have to pay a dime, but there are only two people who know if what happened between them was totally consentual. Everyone else is guessing. They will have their civil trial where it will be a preponderance of the evidence vs innoncent without a shadow of a doubt, I remember that being described 51%, vs 95% in terms of whether they believe you did or didn't do something but I am sure that was an oversimplification.

 

[billybud]

Billy. You may be right. And she should be prosecuted if she made a false claim. Still not extortion. She went to the cops that night.

Legal definition? probably not...the accuser's attorney approached and said.."we can make this go away for $7 million"...it is what it is...an offer.

All attorneys basically extort when offering a settlement...take this or you may suffer the consequences...kind of like plea bargains aren't really extortion. The DA loads up the charges and threatens unless one pleads out to the lesser charge. Extortion? Not legally.

 

[billybud]

The thing is..Winston has acted immature...sure. He is a big kid....

But he unlike many college players on rosters, has not beaten his girlfriend, been in a drunken brawl, attacked a law enforcement officer....

He hasn't stolen from his team mates like Cam Newton.

In fact, he has never been arrested (he was issued a civil citation for shoplifting).