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Right. . On. Pudge.

I expect the usual kid-under-bus-thrower to weigh in soon.
 
Insert standard post about how the team had no offensive talent here:



Your Welcome Pasqualoni lovers. I just saved you and the whole board the trouble.
 
OMG, is this clown for real?

@UConnFootball: AD Warde Manuel: "I look forward to UConn competing with a great group of universities in the American Athletic Conference"
 
husky91 said:
OMG, is this clown for real?

@UConnFootball: AD Warde Manuel: "I look forward to UConn competing with a great group of universities in the American Athletic Conference"
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So ... what would you like him to say? Honestly, we do need to be sportsmanlike ... and WIN. I know it's tough when you have no responsibility to spout off; but, Manuel has a few different constituencies than your refrigerator.
 
Something other than an outright lie I guess.

Maybe, "we look forward to continue to build a strong athletic program and continue our heritage of successful men's and women's athletics." See, easy, no reference to this crap conference.

Pudge said:
So ... what would you like him to say? Honestly, we do need to be sportsmanlike ... and WIN. I know it's tough when you have no responsibility to spout off; but, Manuel has a few different constituencies than your refrigerator.
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I thought it would be Bennett. It was his first year actually playing under a different system with very different body types...Everyone is back except Masters so I am hopeful the OLine will improve this year. That's all I can do, root for the team's and coaching staff's success. If they are not , the staff will surely be replaced as three unsuccessful seasons would define a trend.
 
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I am assuming that Husky91 does NOT work in public relations. Seriously, what is WM supposed to do in this situation? Its obvious that UConn doesn't ultimately want to be in this conference. However we are in this conference for the time being and its important to keep the relationships we have. Do you really expect him to come out and say "We are pissed that we have to now compete with all these loser schools and we think we are better then everyone else in this conference"

That accomplishes nothing....you not only piss off your current conference members that you may have to deal with for a couple years but you also come across like a whiny little b$#th to any possible new conference members but guessing by Husky91's prior posts you would probably be all for it.
 
[quote="husky91, post: 563831, member: 927"Maybe, "we look forward to continue to build a strong athletic program and continue our heritage of successful men's and women's athletics." See, easy, no reference to this crap conference.[/quote]

91, you are spot on. There was no need for Warde to tweet out or say anything in this instance. Not saying he has to bitch or whine. The less that is said about the current conference by Susan or Warde the better and pretending it's something the world knows it's not is ridiculous. SH/WM may not realize it but every time they utter "Big East" or "American Athletic Conference" it's a reminder to their assumed constituents that where we are sucks.

and it doesn't mean you have to be mean or whiny or bitchy to our current "partners". Nothing says you can't be cordial to them behind the scenes.

I'd prefer someone like Calhoun who gives hope - "This time next year we won't be where we are now" - or get wind of a behind-the-scenes PR campaign like Cincinnati is mounting.
 
Manuel is in a very different position than Calhoun. Calhoun is "minister without portfolio" and can say whatever he wants. Doesn't mean a thing. And if he goes off the reservation, UConn can deny he is speaking for it. Manuel has to sell tickets, keep up relationships, sell this steaming pile to donors and boosters, and as AD he in fact does speak for the University...
 
Duncan Idaho said:
I thought it would be Bennett. It was his first year actually playing under a different system with very different body types...Everyone is back except Masters so I am hopeful the OLine will improve this year. That's all I can do, root for the team's and coaching staff's success. If they are not , the staff will surely be replaced as three unsuccessful seasons would define a trend.
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I thought it would be Friend. The rest? True. Very true. They don't have a cupcake schedule to help either.

I'm hoping that Masters impressed somebody last week, and ends up in a camp, and makes a roster, because the skills he's got now, coming of out school, will change the trend on opinion of OL's coming out of UCONN into the NFL, and that will help offensive recruiting ramp up dramatically.
 
Carl Spackler said:
I thought it would be Friend. The rest? True. Very true. They don't have a cupcake schedule to help either.

I'm hoping that Masters impressed somebody last week, and ends up in a camp, and makes a roster, because the skills he's got now, coming of out school, will change the trend on opinion of OL's coming out of UCONN into the NFL, and that will help offensive recruiting ramp up dramatically.
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Masters and Friend made more sense because they both had a year of game time under their belts. This will be Friend's 3rd year starting(if in fact he does) under this system so it will be interesting to note his progress.
 
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WestHartHusk said:
Let's just think about what we are hearing in the past few weeks: 1) extra seats for Michigan; 2) BYU series with a game in E.Hart in 2014; 3) Boise State series with a game in E. Hart in 2014; 4) a complete athletic re-branding in three weeks that we have been desperately needing; 5) we now have three solid bball games next year in NYC (1 @ Barclays, 2 @ MSG); 6) Geno just signed for another 5 years with his team poised for FF #6 in a row; 7) Jimmy Calhoun just signed on for 4 years; 8) Uconn hockey is one more season away from competing in Hockey East.
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That almost didn't happen, the Geno contract thing. It took a job offer from Ohio State to get Geno's contract written. I was seriously pissed at Manuel.
 
HuskyNan said:
I was seriously pissed at Manuel.
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Really? Geno 's contract was going to get done. There's nothing wrong with another school's interest spurring action. Agents use that tactic every day. Life goes on. WestHartHusk chronicled it well. Manuel and Herbst are taking this University to places they've never been (OK-insert conference joke here ) but we are moving forward rapidly on all fronts---and fonts!.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
Geno was never going to leave and his deal was always going to get done.
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He had a plane ticket to Columbus for the interview. I doubt Geno would have left UConn but it's sad that a Hall of Fame coach with 7 national championship rings needed to force the issue.
 
HuskyNan said:
He had a plane ticket to Columbus for the interview. I doubt Geno would have left UConn but it's sad that a Hall of Fame coach with 7 national championship rings needed to force the issue.
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That was probably his agent posturing, which is his/her job. Warde's job is to get the best deal. They said a small dance and all ended as everyone thought it would. Wards did his job and Geno's agent did his/hers. If it was serious Geno would have gotten on that plane to at least be wined and dined. I doubt he ever packed a bag.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
That was probably his agent posturing, which is his/her job. Warde's job is to get the best deal. They said a small dance and all ended as everyone thought it would. Wards did his job and Geno's agent did his/hers. If it was serious Geno would have gotten on that plane to at least be wined and dined. I doubt he ever packed a bag.
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Geno got a 33% increase. That Manuel is some shrewd negotiator.

There's more to it than I'm allowed to say but I will say that your scenario is wrong.
 
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HuskyNan said:
Geno got a 33% increase. That Manuel is some shrewd negotiator.

There's more to it than I'm allowed to say but I will say that your scenario is wrong.
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There is no doubt in my mind that he has made a mess of both basketball contract negotiations. An absolute mess.

The only defense I will offer on Warde's behalf is that I think he has very little to do with the Conference Realignment situation (which was the OP's original gripe). But the contracts.....uggh!...
 
HuskyNan said:
Geno got a 33% increase. That Manuel is some shrewd negotiator.

There's more to it than I'm allowed to say but I will say that your scenario is wrong.
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With all the respect you are deservedly due Nan, I'm slightly disappointed in "Allowed to say". I understand you don't want to expose sources or put out unverified info but that creates more uncertainty out here, especially with the folks who aren't quite sold on Manuel.

IMO, Geno is getting paid what he's worth, and if he gets it done in New Orleans this weekend that actually strengthens our CR case (yes I know it's football driven but one of the unplayed cards is the negative effect landing outside a power conference will have on the nation's premier women's hoop programs).

On the other hand if Geno got so PO'd at Manuel/Herbst he wanted to leave, he could certainly cash in at Ohio State or a school of a similar stature with a nine-figure athletic budget. But after the cash he wouldn't have the many other things that make his life easier here (compliant media for starters, plus less endorsement opportunities, and the recruiting infrastructure; i.e. would be much tougher to recruit elsewhere where program wasn't as established as this one is).
 
HuskyNan said:
Geno got a 33% increase. That Manuel is some shrewd negotiator.

There's more to it than I'm allowed to say but I will say that your scenario is wrong.
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Thanks for sharing Nan. We don't always have the full story here - I just assumed there was a lot of posturing going on, but sounds like things were more tenuous than we thought. Although, I will say, if Geno were to leave his restaurant and food investments would make no sense. But it's done, we keep a HOF coach another five years and hopefully that is enough to get us to safe harbors.

Tangentially related, I can't explain how happy I am that WM and JC put aside any differences they may have (don't know if they have any, but I'm sure WM didn't appreciate having his hands tied) and signed up for another 4 years. Just hearing JC's comments on ESPN and now the Brando show I feel great knowing that someone in that AD's office DESPERATELY wants out of the AAC. If anyone can push others to get it done its JC and I wouldn't be surprised if he is key in providing the funding/resource support that it takes to push us over the hill into a big-time conference. He sees the UConn athletics as his creation, and I'm sure he doesn't want to see it slip back to a C-USA level. Honestly, I think this is a huge move on WM's part and I'm not sure every AD would have buried the hatched in this way.
 
HuskyNan said:
Geno got a 33% increase. That Manuel is some shrewd negotiator.

There's more to it than I'm allowed to say but I will say that your scenario is wrong.
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The highest paid coach in the game got a 33% raise on top of that and you're worried about style points?
 
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