OT: Heartbroken for UCF

[DarthGrumpy]

I think we all agree that we would be reacting different if Duke was not invovled. The fact that Duke gets these calls to go their way time every single time is the issue...

 

[superjohn]

Saw that when it happened, was a big deal even at the time - but in a basketball game everyone makes mistakes, players, refs, coaches - got to play well enough to overcome all of it.

Well there was no overcoming that, Michigan was given 2 ft's to win the national championship on a foul that never occured.

 

[intlzncster]

Saw that when it happened, was a big deal even at the time - but in a basketball game everyone makes mistakes, players, refs, coaches - got to play well enough to overcome all of it.

If the refs blow a last second call, you don't really have the opportunity to overcome it.

So if you play another team to a stalemate, and the ref robs you, that's on you for not playing well enough? You've got to play the other team, AND the refs, just in case.

 

[B1GEast]

I don't know if Dawkins had a time out, but after the bucket that put UCF by three late in the game, before Taco fouled out, if UCF had a time out, that would have been a good time to use it.

There was no situational awareness by Taco or the UCF team. Up by three with seconds to go and maybe you want to foul a poor free throw shooter.

UCF had a clear look at the put back and the ball just rattled out. It happens, it's March Madness. UCF had their chances to win this game, it had nothing to do with a foul called or not called

 

[Dogdeacon]

If the refs blow a last second call, you don't really have the opportunity to overcome it.

So if you play another team to a stalemate, and the ref robs you, that's on you for not playing well enough? You've got to play the other team, AND the refs, just in case.

Yeah, that 1% of the time you can get jobbed or rewarded - but you will also have a few opportunities to make sure it doesn't come down to the refs at the end.
There is certainly a list of major sporting events affected and changed by refereeing and it is incredibly egregious when it occurs (this one mildly, exacerbated only because its Dook, but mitigated b/c UCF still got 2 good shots to win).
I think the Lakers playoff win over Sacto in 2002 and the 2001 Bucks & Ray's eastern finals loss to Iverson are the two of the worst NBA examples. College the Rumeal game I think stands out as the very worst although I'm sure there are a few others that weren't in the actual final game but still in final moment of an NCAA game.

Unrelated Duke cheating story, university just agreed to a 112M settlement for falsifying research to secure a 200M grant:
The case also contends that the university and its office of research support, upon discovering the fraud, knowingly concealed it from the government. According to court documents, Duke was accused of submitting claims to the National Institute of Health (NIH) and Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) between 2006-2018 that contained "false or fabricated data" cause the two agencies to pay out grant funds they "otherwise would not have."
The whistleblower that used to work for Dook gets 1/3!!
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[Palatine]

Let's face it. That is and will be UCF's fate. Same with Cinny. Thta's what they are there for.

 

[intlzncster]

Yeah, that 1% of the time you can get jobbed or rewarded - but you will also have a few opportunities to make sure it doesn't come down to the refs at the end.
There is certainly a list of major sporting events affected and changed by refereeing and it is incredibly egregious when it occurs (this one mildly, exacerbated only because its Dook, but mitigated b/c UCF still got 2 good shots to win).

With games like basketball, it's one of those things that you don't mind refs being up and down (to a degree) during the game, because that's life, but at the end, you HAVE to get it right. That's why we see the addition of replay. I only expect it to be expanded (it's kind of annoying irt actually, but I'd rather have the right call made).

However, I wholly disagree with the bold part. Mildly exacerbated??? Majorly, utterly, wholly, are better terms here with respect to Duke. It is slightly mitigated because of UCF's chances.

Unrelated Duke cheating story, university just agreed to a 112M settlement for falsifying research to secure a 200M grant:
The case also contends that the university and its office of research support, upon discovering the fraud, knowingly concealed it from the government. According to court documents, Duke was accused of submitting claims to the National Institute of Health (NIH) and Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) between 2006-2018 that contained "false or fabricated data" cause the two agencies to pay out grant funds they "otherwise would not have."
The whistleblower that used to work for Dook gets 1/3!!
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https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2019/03/25/duke-agrees-to-pay-112-5-million-to-settle.html?ana=e_ae_set1&s=article_du&ed=2019-03-25&u=IG/kNPuKEfdzgKlDe3DK1g0eefd177&t=1553543073&j=87433471

Classic Duke. Basketball program acts the same way.

 

[ASweet3781]

Let's face it. That is and will be UCF's fate. Same with Cinny. Thta's what they are there for.

How can you possibly say that? Cincinnati has blown leads and lost to teams they should have beaten numerous times. They had a path to the the Final 4 last year (Loyola's region) and they blew a 22 point lead to Nevada!

Everyone thought UCF was going to get blown out vs Duke. UCF earned more respect for this league with that performance yesterday than Cincinnati has ever done.

 

[Palatine]

How can you possibly say that? Cincinnati has blown leads and lost to teams they should have beaten numerous times. They had a path to the the Final 4 last year (Loyola's region) and they blew a 22 point lead to Nevada!

Everyone thought UCF was going to get blown out vs Duke. UCF earned more respect for this league with that performance yesterday than Cincinnati has ever done.

True. But you just knew. Duke wins and UCF falls short. It's like gravity.

 

[noeynox]

Late to the party, but my 2 cents:

We've had our hearts broken in tournament. They had a nice team, you have a special program when you're the team breaking Duke's fans hearts in the tournament. Soooo...fluck UCF.