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FfldCntyFan said:
I will be very surprised if the Giants don't hire McAdoo.

One thing the Giants hold dear is their 'family' approach and there have only been a few head coach hires since Steve Owen took over in 1930 that did not have some prior time as a Giant's employee; Bill Arnsbarger (who came highly recommended by Don Shula, fit the bill as a football family oriented coach and was the hottest commodity on the market when hired), Dan Reeves (George Young's first hire who had a relationship with Young in Baltimore, before Young left Baltimore for Miami) and Dan Reeves (who was hired after the Giants stuck out with Coughlin and was highly recommended by Frank Gifford, who was not only a member of the Giants' family but also viewed by Wellington Mara as a son).

Another is that from George Young's time forward, the team (with two exceptions) always adhered to the philosophy that a first time head coach would be a better fit. The exceptions were the above stated Reeves and Coughlin, who Wellington Mara a) saw as the one who got away and b) had an old school, disciplinarian approach that WM believed the team was in desperate need of.

While it is now Wellington's kid who runs the show and the guy who replaced the guy who replaced Young as GM, the teams approach and philosophy really has not changed at all.
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Just an opinion, but I don't get why people feel the need to go in-family. I realize it's working at UCONN (despite some peoples' idiots protestations to the contrary), but it is like drafting for need, rather than taking the best player available. Hire the best coach, the best guy to run things. If you put any credence in hiring in-family over that, you are hurting yourself. It can certainly be a deciding factor, all other things being equal, but that's usually not the case.

It's hurting Mara as we speak with his retention of Reese. Loyalty is a very important quality in business and in life, but there are limits, and this is one of them. You get the best performers, regardless of background.

Hopefully for the Giants, Reese doesn't double down on the 'loyalty' thing. Unless he feels McAdoo IS the best candidate available. I don't have a feel for McAdoo whatsoever, so I can't really come to an opinion on that one way or another. The Giants were schizophrenic this year, but there's a whole lot of factors that went into that.
 
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intlzncster said:
Just an opinion, but I don't get why people feel the need to go in-family. I realized it's working at UCONN (despite some peoples' idiots protestations to the contrary), but it is like drafting for need, rather than taking the best player available. Hire the best coach, the best guy to run things. If you put any credence in hiring in-family over that, you are hurting yourself. It can certainly be a deciding factory, all other things being equal, but that's usually not the case.
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The Mara's and Tisch's have already set this precedence by retaining Jerry Reese....
 
FDNY99 said:
The Mara's and Tisch's have already set this precedence by retaining Jerry Reese....
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Yep, I was typing an addendum to my post above as you submitted this.
 
The number one thing McAdoo has going for him is that Eli endorses him.
 
tcf15 said:
Poster on another giants board said he was listening to WFAN and Garafolo said if TC goes to Philly, he would try and bring McAdoo with him.
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That would really hurt. Basically Coughlin goes from Anakin Skywalker to Darth Vader; I guess that would make McAdoo Kylo Ren.
 
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The only person to blame if Coughlin goes to Philly with McAdoo is John Mara. He started this when he decided to can TC and keep Jerry Reese. Don't discount the candidacy of Doug Marrone...articles in NY Post this morning saying he will keep McAdoo if hired....that will be the hands down WORST possibility that can happen for a NYG fan..having Marrone replace TC! IMHO at this point..either give the job to McAdoo or Lovie Smith. NYG Beat writer Ralph Vacchiano has a love affair with Marrone which I found EXTREMELY odd..then I realized he went is a Cuse grad. Now it makes sense.
 
I don't get why so many teams are interested in Doug Marrone. I saw on espn that the Giants are interviewing him today, he has an interview set up with Tampa Bay next week there were other NFL teams were also interested. I just don't see the allure.
 
I will be stunned if Marrone's interview is anything more than a) a courtesy and b) evidence (if questioned) that they hadn't already decided in the HC hire prior to interviewing Teryl Austin (required due to Rooney Rule).
 
Giants just gave Eagles permission to talk to TC. Oh my, the misery!!!!!!
 
Devland said:
I don't get why so many teams are interested in Doug Marrone. I saw on espn that the Giants are interviewing him today, he has an interview set up with Tampa Bay next week there were other NFL teams were also interested. I just don't see the allure.
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Look, he did quite well in Buffalo football-wise. His knock was he ruffled too many feathers. If he can sort that out, he could be a good coach somewhere. People act like these guys can't change. BB, TC, Carroll et al prove otherwise.
 
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intlzncster said:
Look, he did quite well in Buffalo football-wise. His knock was he ruffled too many feathers. If he can sort that out, he could be a good coach somewhere. People act like these guys can't change. BB, TC, Carroll et al prove otherwise.
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The fact he was so arrogant he walked away says a LOT about this Marrone! No way do I want to see him making the calls as the HC of the NYG!
 
I think it was pretty well known that Marrone was incredible sensitive about the media when he was in Buffalo - that's a trait that will serve him really well if he get's the Giants gig.
 
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I like Hue Jackson, interview won't be till Thursday or Friday with the owner meetings taking place in Houston, hope Browns do not lock him before we can at least get him in for an interview.
 
How many teams have contacted Tom Coughlin since he has been fired?
So, teams who are interviewing Coughlin do not feel that it is his coaching that is keeping the Giants from winning but a lack of players. Who is in charge of procuring players?
Do you think Coughlin may be a little tired of trying to win with other teams rejects?
Name three players on the Giants' defense who would play for the ' 86 Giants.
The only sure starter on the offense is Beckham.
 
pnow15 said:
How many teams have contacted Tom Coughlin since he has been fired?
So, teams who are interviewing Coughlin do not feel that it is his coaching that is keeping the Giants from winning but a lack of players. Who is in charge of procuring players?
Do you think Coughlin may be a little tired of trying to win with other teams rejects?
Name three players on the Giants' defense who would play for the ' 86 Giants.
The only sure starter on the offense is Beckham.
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Phil wasn't loaded with receivers either but they were all pretty good and clutch. McConkey, Johnson, Baker and of course a great TE. Might have been able to sneak a Prince or Cromartie in on D but you're right, not too many at all.
 
pnow15 said:
How many teams have contacted Tom Coughlin since he has been fired?
So, teams who are interviewing Coughlin do not feel that it is his coaching that is keeping the Giants from winning but a lack of players. Who is in charge of procuring players?
Do you think Coughlin may be a little tired of trying to win with other teams rejects?
Name three players on the Giants' defense who would play for the ' 86 Giants.
The only sure starter on the offense is Beckham.
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Jerry Reese is in charge of making the roster and he has been an absolute failure.

As for '86 I think Prince and DRC are better than Patterson and Williams
 
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Jerry1714 said:
Jerry Reese is in charge of making the roster and he has been an absolute failure.

As for '86 I think Prince and DRC are better than Patterson and Williams
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Someone has to be better than "Toast" Patterson right? ;)
 
mauconnfan said:
Phil wasn't loaded with receivers either but they were all pretty good and clutch. McConkey, Johnson, Baker and of course a great TE. Might have been able to sneak a Prince or Cromartie in on D but you're right, not too many at all.
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Lionel Manuel?
 
Jerry1714 said:
as feared

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 3m3 minutes ago
Looks like Browns will get done deal with Hue Jackson before he gets on flight to New York for interview with the Giants, per sources.
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His agent must hate him. I would think it it's worth hearing what the Giants have to say before signing on to certain failure. Then again, even Jim Tomsula will never have to work again if he doesn't want to.
 
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