OT: Doping Scandel Peyton Manning and others

[upstater]

Fair enough. Still don't see a difference on how they would treat the 2 NFL darlings quite honestly, just how they treat the story itself. Maybe they are also gun shy after they screwed TB up with the balls and waiting for more?

Whatever, all hear say. Don't really care as football is over now. (minus ND/Oh St at 1)

The behavior of the league is hard to justify. Troy Vincent lied and got caught. Crickets. Dean Blandino lied and got caught (about the fact that the whole deflategate was a sting and a set-up). Crickets. The league was then de-pantsed when it claimed that Brady lied about his phone calls to the equipment guy. They never expected the New York judge to release the private transcripts to the media showing that in the Wells report, Brady testified that he talked to the equipment guy about the possible deflation of balls. It was a complete and total lie by the NFL. The media? Crickets. And then some unnamed NFL official gave Chris Mortensen PSI values fully 1.5 PSI lower than the actual measurements at halftime. Mortensen didn't apologize or retract his report. Crickets.

So, we have an example here of the league repeatedly lying and of the media taking no interest.

Just what are we as fans supposed to conclude about constant lies and no one caring?

In fact, rather than take Brady at his word at his press conference when he said he never directed anyone to deflate anything, the media actually twisted what he said to make it sound like he claimed that he can't tell the difference between balls with a 1 PSI differential.

 

[intlzncster]

So, we have an example here of the league repeatedly lying and of the media taking no interest.

Just what are we as fans supposed to conclude about constant lies and no one caring?

Not that any anti-Pats guys give two sh_ts, but what pisses Patriot fans off in addition (doubly so), is the same people who were excoriating the Brady and the Patriots based on all the garbage statements/reports by the NFL, are the same people now who are like, "whatever, move on Pats fans. We think what we think (based on no facts). Yeah, the NFL probably messed up a few places, but just let it go. Sick of Deflategate. Old news."

And Pats fans are like, "WTF? You just spent the last 8 months comparing Brady to bloody Hitler, and now that the truth comes out, not only do you not want to admit you were wrong, but you want to sweep it completely under the rug....and effectively let many of the falsehoods stand." It's annoying to say the least.

 

[upstater]

Not that any anti-Pats guys give two sh_ts, but what pisses Patriot fans off in addition (doubly so), is the same people who were excoriating the Brady and the Patriots based on all the garbage statements/reports by the NFL, are the same people now who are like, "whatever, move on Pats fans. We think what we think (based on no facts). Yeah, the NFL probably messed up a few places, but just let it go. Sick of Deflategate. Old news."

And Pats fans are like, "WTF? You just spent the last 8 months comparing Brady to bloody Hitler, and now that the truth comes out, not only do you not want to admit you were wrong, but you want to sweep it completely under the rug....and effectively let many of the falsehoods stand." It's annoying to say the least.

At the very least, all fans should be concerned that the NFL just lies. Lies, lies,lies, and gets caught lying.

 

[mauconnfan]

I have figured it out finally, every9one is out to get the Pats and Brady, not just the NFL, everyone.

Next

 

[upstater]

I have figured it out finally, every9one is out to get the Pats and Brady, not just the NFL, everyone.

Next

Who said that?

I just stated the facts.

I didn't make any accusations or interpretations.

Everything's fine. It's OK if you like lying.

 

[upstater]

Does anyone know this Guyer guy's phone #? I think some may need to be sent to Giselle. It's for her ankle, I mean shoulder.

 

[Adios]

http://nesn.com/2016/01/al-jazeera-reporter-second-credible-source-confirmed-peyton-manning-report/

Already in the red zone on his first drive back in.

 

[mauconnfan]

Does anyone know this Guyer guy's phone #? I think some may need to be sent to Giselle. It's for her ankle, I mean shoulder.

What happened the Pats lose today?

 

[UConn990411]

What happened the Pats lose today?

Trolllllllll

 

[mauconnfan]

Trolllllllll

Nope, just a poster on the Boneyard regularly.

 

[upstater]

Nope, just a poster on the Boneyard regularly.

Even worse, I think Tom Coughlin just signed a new contract for the next five years.

 

[mauconnfan]

Even worse, I think Tom Coughlin just signed a new contract for the next five years.

Now you're killing me up - I'm sorry I really am I swear.

 

[FartMan69]

What happened the Pats lose today?

We ran the Bob Diaco offense for the entire first half, it was brutal.

 

[mauconnfan]

We ran the Bob Diaco offense for the entire first half, it was brutal.

Didn't watch much but that picture alone is brutal.

 

[intlzncster]

We ran the Bob Diaco offense for the entire first half, it was brutal.

Brady threw like 5 times in the first half! hahahah

The one good thing about this is that the Pats avoid having to play both Pitt and Denver. Those two can duke it out. I think Pitt will win, so they'd end up with home field anyway, if they make it to the AFC championship.

The only thing that matters is health. Did not like seeing Brady limp out of the post game like that. He'd be doing his best to hide anything, so it must be fairly painful.

 

[upstater]

 

[Scoe]

Not guilty, well based on facts Peyton is not a cheater and Brady is. NFL says Manning didn't use HGH, other PEDs

 

[mauconnfan]

A little Papi coming back to haunt the Boston faithful maybe?

 

[huskypantz]

Not guilty, well based on facts Peyton is not a cheater and Brady is. NFL says Manning didn't use HGH, other PEDs

For the lawyers in the room, how does an independent non-criminal or insurance-related investigation gain access to medical records? Do the players have to release the records - likely under direction of their legal team?

During its investigation, the league studied multiple medical records, worked in consultation with what it believed were expert witnesses and conducted laboratory analysis.

 

[David 76]

Haha. But Brady has 4 asterisks!!

NB: I totally agree on PED use. I think it should be legal in football anyway, but that's just imo.

Legal PED use in the pros would make it more routine in college, which would increase use in high school and get kids started in youth leagues. So many people that would get affected who never sniff pro money.
Also, you would penalize everyone who didn't use it.
I know they are not as dangerous as they were in the Lyle Alzado days. But there is still far too much to learn before one could ever think of approving it.
I believe they could develop tests to better keep up with the drugs if they wanted to do it.

 

[intlzncster]

Not guilty, well based on facts Peyton is not a cheater and Brady is. NFL says Manning didn't use HGH, other PEDs

No, that's based on what the NFL says. And how credible are they exactly?

 

[intlzncster]

Legal PED use in the pros would make it more routine in college, which would increase use in high school and get kids started in youth leagues. So many people that would get affected who never sniff pro money.
Also, you would penalize everyone who didn't use it.
I know they are not as dangerous as they were in the Lyle Alzado days. But there is still far too much to learn before one could ever think of approving it.
I believe they could develop tests to better keep up with the drugs if they wanted to do it.

I get the concept, and why they don't do it, but still. Baseball was at it's best during the steroid era.

They do adapt tests pretty quick, the problem is, the people who are coming up with the "cheat codes" are always going to be one step ahead. WADA et all have to adapt to what they do, and are inherently behind.

 

[donyell34]

Mau you are all wet and have been from the start. You were TOTALLY biased from the start. You hate the Patriots. Brady and Belicheck so your posts mean absolutely nothing on this. Stick to the Giants and Huskies. Your cancelled out on this one Mau..