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So what exactly is the risk associated with travel? Is it the activity of sitting on a plane for a couple hours or is it more associated with the interactions while you are there (hotel, restaurants, etc)?
 
Senior in college here. Was going to use the summer to travel to Japan, Italy, Switzerland, and Spain, but ended up canceling those about a month ago. Not sure international travel will be an option even through August. Thinking of doing a road trip in July to some national parks, but even that looks 50/50 (at best) at this point.
 
Bill Gates thinks 2-3 months

He added that rich countries are being hit especially hard right now, but that with the right actions in place — that combination of testing and distancing — Gates estimates that within two or three months those countries should have been able to stamp out high rates of infection and start the economy recovery process
 
I live in Sao Paulo, Brazil. I'm planning to travel within Brazil in about a week as long as airports are open. I've already had corona and several people I'm in close contact with had it at the exact same time. Brazil is mostly just testing severe cases, so reported cases are astronomically lower than actual cases. Therefore death rates are likely far lower than 1% in Brazil. But death rates will vary a lot by country because every population has different health levels and average age etc. In Sao Paulo schools are closed, but it's pretty much business as usual otherwise even though the government wants people to stay inside. People aren't listening. This will be a test case to see if herd immunity will work. Old people and people with weak immune systems are hiding while everyone else is building immunity. I fear for the usa when the virus likely will come back strong in the fall. Do we tank the economy again by shutting everything down? Or do we tell people aged 65+ and people with weak immune systems to hide while everyone else builds immunity.
Glad U r recovered!! How long did it take to test negative after your positive test? How severe were your symptoms? U r the fist person other than news reports so it would be nice to get a first hand report
 
Monthly to Silicon Valley, and May to Milan / Venice: not happening.
 
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Where are you currently? What is the situation
In Serbia. People seem to be taking proper precaution but are generally taking things in stride as well. Supermarkets close at 6pm, if I understand properly and there are limited bus service which stops at 8pm. Most things are closed except for banks, markets, pharmacies and a few other things. I am working from home via Zoom now (kind of like Skype but seems to function better).

How are you?
 
I had to cancel two trips to Medellin. Colombia has closed it's borders to foreign nationals. And now Thailand has closed all discos and massage parlors in Pattaya. Not sure how I am going to survive this!?!
 
In Serbia. People seem to be taking proper precaution but are generally taking things in stride as well. Supermarkets close at 6pm, if I understand properly and there are limited bus service which stops at 8pm. Most things are closed except for banks, markets, pharmacies and a few other things. I am working from home via Zoom now (kind of like Skype but seems to function better).

How are you?
I saw there was less than a 100 cases there. If only we took those types of precautions when cases were in the 80s we’d be over it by now.
 
I'm a teacher/coach and travel all summer/every summer usually.

I was going to go to Charleston/Savannah and the Florida keys with my GF, then a month or a little more in Kenya/Tanzania. Thinking I'll just stay home instead unless things change drastically.
 
Was supposed to be in California for work this week but trip was cancelled last Thursday. I had a trip to Vermont scheduled in April- that's been delayed as well.

Company policy has basically shut down all travel, domestic or international. Have two co-workers who were on a 2-month assignment in northern Japan. They were supposed to be coming home in 2 weeks. I'll be curious to see how that works out.
 
I live in Tahoe, nothing is open, but you can get ripping deals on lodging. LOL
My son has a home in Carnelian Bay and we usually meet up to do some spring skiing at Squaw. I'm a CPA so can't usually leave until tax season is up. No filing extension so we're still stuck no matter what! He's been sending me great pictures of the lake and snow dump everyday!
 
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If everyone listens and isolates, I think we peek in under 4 weeks and things return to normalcy come June. If everyone thinks and acts like all of the spring breakers in Florida, it will be a year minimum.
 
If everyone listens and isolates, I think we peek in under 4 weeks and things return to normalcy come June. If everyone thinks and acts like all of the spring breakers in Florida, it will be a year minimum.

People who dont cooperate with isolation should get arrested.
 
If everyone listens and isolates, I think we peek in under 4 weeks and things return to normalcy come June. If everyone thinks and acts like all of the spring breakers in Florida, it will be a year minimum.
This is my opinion too. If you want your normal life back give it up for a month and we can party on Memorial Day. If you act stupid now we’re toast.
 


Everyone needs to listen to this guy and I mean everyone.
 
My son has a home in Carnelian Bay and we usually meet up to do some spring skiing at Squaw. I'm a CPA so can't usually leave until tax season is up. No filing extension so we're still stuck no matter what! He's been sending me great pictures of the lake and snow dump everyday!

Can't ski it though right, unless you skin up? Think all the north american ski resorts are closed.
 
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Fixed it for you.

That works too, if it takes our police force acting like nazis against these idiots in order to stop the spread I'm all for it, anyone who is a witness to these partiers should report it as well.
 
People who dont cooperate with isolation should get arrested.

Agree, however if we enforce that everyone would complain about how we’re living in a dictatorship:rolleyes:
 
Yesterday was first day in China that they didn't have any new cases since it started. Once we can get to that point we can be on the climb back to some normalcy.
Yeah, like I believe any information coming out of China.
 
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It’s already too late.
No it's not but it's a major problem that some people and some states still aren't doing the things the rest of us are doing. It's like they want to prolong the pain.
 
It may still be going on and go on for more than a year, having small outbreaks but I think we peak in 2-3 weeks and then have linear growth instead of exponential growth and then it will fade after some time. My point is things will have to return after a few weeks. We can't have this shutdown go on for months, it would be far more damaging than the hospitalizations and the deaths, our economy would be completely wrecked. It's why these next few weeks of shutdown/social isolation are so important and why it drives me crazy many people aren't practicing it and some whole states aren't really practicing it. It's all about spreading hospitalizations out over time instead of having it all happen at once overwhelming our health system.
There is no “we” to peak. “We” here are behind the northeast, and places like Arizona are behind us. So there’s that. Secondly, “peaking” involves a drop off after; that’s going to take a lot longer than 3 weeks. I don’t think we’ve hit 100 confirmed cases here yet.

There’s a naval hospital ship docked here in SD. The CA governor this morning said to prepare for Italy-like precautions i.e. martial law. A few hours later, ex-Navy I know who has a friend in the national guard says he got called up for this weekend. Maybe certain areas peak in 2-3 months; not 2-3 weeks. And even if it’s that soon, the then tapering off of the outbreak will take a long long time. Think of a bell curve skewed left with the x axis being time.
 
What is your definition of “over?”
I should have said “controlled”. Until there’s a vaccine, given the incubation period, this is going to be going on a long, long time. Different areas of the country are being affected at different times. We will think it’s fine in 4 weeks and stop isolating, only for spread to pick back up. There’s only so much isolating you can do. My 26 year brother just got it earlier this week, felt like he had a really bad flu. He was being responsible but just lives in an urban area and there’s only so much you can do. Touch a door handle then touch your face without thinking about it? You got it.
 
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