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NDakotaHusky said:
Here's the list:
- Probiotics
- Kelp Supplement
- Beet Root Supplement
- Fish Oil
- Daily Vitamin for Men (chew able)
- Zinc
- Vitamin D

I'm a little embarrassed to admit, but I take the Zinc and Vitamin D because it supposedly helps testosterone levels. I'm not a Dr. and I didn't speak to a Dr. about it...so hopefully that's sorta accurate.
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i also take D3 and Zinc but for totally different reasons. D3 is good for practically everything and Zinc is not only good for immune health but i read a while back that it helps with cholesterol too.
B12 - good for nerves and metabolism/energy.
Cinnamon and Chromium - both good for blood sugar control.
Somnapure - helps with sleep.
Probiotic - have a touch of IBS.
 
Gutter King said:
I meant to say that I get to 20g with the vegetables, I didn't mean that veggies were eliminated.

-Coffee, black or Tea whenever.

Meal #1: 12:00 PM Sharp

-Chicken, Turkey, or Steak Salad. Typically romaine and a ton of spinach. avocado and feta. Other veggies in moderation.

Meal #2: Anytime, but no later than 8pm.

-4 Eggs and Turkey Burger (Costcos are awesome), Salmon Burger, Grass Fed Beef burger with MIXED PEPPERS AKA ITALIAN GIARDINIERA* and Avacado.

Condiments: Spicy Mustard and Frank's Red Hot

*70% Calories from fat is difficult to do. The giardiniera that I make has Olive Oil/vinager base. So paired with things like Avacado, Olives, etc. you can get reasonably close.

I'd also recommend Shiratake noodles, they don't have carbs in them and can be found in Asian Markets, but you need to watch the sauce if you are making a dish. The right pesto is a good option. You can also find Carb Zero Noodles at Walmart.

There has to be carbs sneaking in somewhere in your diet...everything else, as stated, seems to be the perfect Keto diet...
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Thanks for the info....I have been drinking a kale/spinach shake for breakfast, salad with protein for lunch and protein with a veggie for diner...did the calculation on just the veggies and I am way over 20 g carbs..never realized it. I need to rethink my eating plan if I want to try this keto diet...I think starting with a 24 fast then cutting out the breakfast shake will do it.

Do you real feel that great in ketosis?? Anyone I've spoken to that has done it raves about it. Have you listened to Dom D'agostino's podcast on Tim Ferriss? He's the keto king
 
Dogbreath2U said:
I have worked with a dietitian (I believe that dietitian's are registered or certified or something, but "nutritionists" not so much).
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Thanks. I checked the woman to whom he referred me and she is a registered dietician, among other things.
 
I'll be reading this thread tonight...but my menu this week adds:

Curried quinoa with mango chutney (yep, as the entree).
And Kale slaw with a spring mixx mixed in with grilled chicken.

The time has come to start reducing the triglycerides and adding vitamin E.
 
TasteofUConn said:
My experience in life (just me, everybody is different, and some are very different):

Being heavier makes everything more difficult. 35 pounds is the difference between lean and feeling great and not feeling well. I've never been more than 35 pounds or so over my target weight, but I imagine that the "feeling crappy" and "overweight" scales are tightly correlated.

Smoking makes you feel like crap.

Drinking heavily, chronically, makes you feel like crap.

Caffeine makes you feel like crap and can affect sleep.

Eating crappy food makes you feel like crap.

Stress at work makes you feel like crap.

One of the worst cycles is the Cube Farm Zombie cycle, which is wake up, dose caffeine, eat unhealthy snacks during day, get prepared lunch, more unhealthy snacks and caffeine, dislike your job and be stressed, overeat at home and be sedentary, use alcohol to unwind daily.

I've done it all, BTW, and have lived unhealthily. Not preaching by any means. After about half a century on the planet have just figured out that what works for me is - desire less stuff, work fewer hours or at a more likable job, don't smoke more than 10 cigarettes a year, keep my weight less than 10 pounds over ideal, eat a broad range of food, including lots of fruits and veggies, avoid fast food and prepared meals, drink heavy only once in a while, don't use caffeine (tough one), stay very active, and maybe most importantly, avoid all drugs (including all supplements) unless there is a specific deficiency/reason to use them. It took 3.5 billion years of evolution to produce the current version of humans, which relied only on naturally available food. Unless there's an issue, you should be able to get everything you need by simply eating broad diet of foods. Peace.
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When I feel like crapping and succeed I feel real good.

All kidding aside, stools are a pretty decent measure of gut activity.

I still plan on eating some fried clams or fried shrimp when I head to Ct @August_West and @8893 . I'll feel like crap afterwards both physically and mentally (knowing I gave in to an unhealthy impulse) but I can rationalize it with the knowledge that avoiding it would make me even more miserable, and as you point out Taste, mental states are critical to health.

Anecdotally I'm sure that the primary reason for my Uncle's longevity (103) was primarily based on his zest for life and positive attitude. He didn't drink coffee (tea instead), didn't smoke (but my aunt died of lung cancer and was a heavy chain smoker so he got heavy doses of tobacco smoke), infrequently consumed alcohol, didn't eat red meat, but that was it. He enjoyed eggs and chicken, breads and some deserts. His body type would have to be classified as chunky. He walked a lot but no organized exercising. But his attitude was incredibly optimistic. He had an almost childlike naivety although he was very intelligent. He would travel around the state of CT meeting with people and always getting involved with projects . He drove until he was 98. Unfortunately some kid ran a light and t boned his car. He never fully recovered physically and was unable to resume his activity. His state of mind and health deteriorated over a five year span, but I swear, had he not been in that accident he could have lived a lot longer.

He was the youngest of the three brothers (there were two sisters as well, my mom being the youngest) and the other brothers lived to 98 and 89. These brothers were not overly obsessed with their diets and their choices of eating were different. But none were smokers (both had smoking spouses) or big alcohol imbibers. One uncle ate meats frequently another moderately. I would have to say their diets were different from one another. But like their younger brother they each had a zest for life. And they, like their younger brother, walked a lot.

The sisters on the other hand sadly developed Parkinsons and died much younger. No scientific study but my guess is that they were far more restricted growing up and never reached their emotional freedom the way their bothers did.

My suggestion to all in this thread is know your body. It's different in significant ways from everyone else. There are known metabolic pathways that process carbs and known metabolic pathways that process cholesterol and so on and like physical traits we observe (various heights, weight, muscle mass) these pathways have different ranges in composition and performance in each and every one of us. Follow any diet that makes you feel good but be careful not to become obsessed with these processes to the point that life is about the process and the goal supersedes enjoying life.

I'm going to find a bottle of champagne and make a toast to Winston Churchill. I want his or my uncles biological make up. If there are any microbiologists in this thread, get on the stick and find the techniques that can alter our cellular biology with noninvasive microbiological techniques to match either of these guys microbiology.
 
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fleudslipcon said:
When I feel like crapping and succeed I feel real good.
All kidding aside, stools are a pretty decent measure of gut activity.
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Hahaha that was funny. Everybody loves a good stool.
 
fleudslipcon said:
When I feel like crapping and succeed I feel real good.

All kidding aside, stools are a pretty decent measure of gut activity.

I still plan on eating some fried clams or fried shrimp when I head to Ct @August_West and @8893 . I'll feel like crap afterwards both physically and mentally (knowing I gave in to an unhealthy impulse) but I can rationalize it with the knowledge that avoiding it would make me even more miserable, and as you point out Taste, mental states are critical to health.

Anecdotally I'm sure that the primary reason for my Uncle's longevity (103) was primarily based on his zest for life and positive attitude. He didn't drink coffee (tea instead), didn't smoke (but my aunt died of lung cancer and was a heavy chain smoker so he got heavy doses of tobacco smoke), infrequently consumed alcohol, didn't eat red meat, but that was it. He enjoyed eggs and chicken, breads and some deserts. His body type would have to be classified as chunky. He walked a lot but no organized exercising. But his attitude was incredibly optimistic. He had an almost childlike naivety although he was very intelligent. He would travel around the state of CT meeting with people and always getting involved with projects . He drove until he was 98. Unfortunately some kid ran a light and t boned his car. He never fully recovered physically and was unable to resume his activity. His state of mind and health deteriorated over a five year span, but I swear, had he not been in that accident he could have lived a lot longer.

He was the youngest of the three brothers (there were two sisters as well, my mom being the youngest) and the other brothers lived to 98 and 89. These brothers were not overly obsessed with their diets and their choices of eating were different. But none were smokers (both had smoking spouses) or big alcohol imbibers. One uncle ate meats frequently another moderately. I would have to say their diets were different from one another. But like their younger brother they each had a zest for life. And they, like their younger brother, walked a lot.

The sisters on the other hand sadly developed Parkinsons and died much younger. No scientific study but my guess is that they were far more restricted growing up and never reached their emotional freedom the way their bothers did.

My suggestion to all in this thread is know your body. It's different in significant ways from everyone else. There are known metabolic pathways that process carbs and known metabolic pathways that process cholesterol and so on and like physical traits we observe (various heights, weight, muscle mass) these pathways have different ranges in composition and performance in each and every one of us. Follow any diet that makes you feel good but be careful not to become obsessed with these processes to the point that life is about the process and the goal supersedes enjoying life.

I'm going to find a bottle of champagne and make a toast to Winston Churchill. I want his or my uncles biological make up. If there are any microbiologists in this thread, get on the stick and find the techniques that can alter our cellular biology with noninvasive microbiological techniques to match either of these guys microbiology.
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Wow, those are some great genes with those brothers. Your uncle sounds like he was an awesome guy.
 
I like to mix a bowl of fresh fruit (mostly berries), yogurt, and granola. Eat it every day. But you guys are making re-think the granola portion. What I could mix in in place of the granola?
 
tiger8mush said:
I like to mix a bowl of fresh fruit (mostly berries), yogurt, and granola. Eat it every day. But you guys are making re-think the granola portion. What I could mix in in place of the granola?
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Oats and nuts.
 
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8893 said:
Thanks. I checked the woman to whom he referred me and she is a registered dietician, among other things.
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Yep, mine's a personal trainer and something else as well. Mine has been totally free with Anthem which has been nice too.
 
Dogbreath2U said:
Yep, mine's a personal trainer and something else as well. Mine has been totally free with Anthem which has been nice too.
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I have Anthem too and was going to check into exactly that. I'll still go either way, but if the alternatives are this or going on statins, I'd imagine this is less expensive for them in both the short and long term.
 
superjohn said:
Wow, those are some great genes with those brothers. Your uncle sounds like he was an awesome guy.
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He was. Prior to his accident he was almost always happy. His wife (my aunt) got on a lot of peoples nerves but he always treated her well and never let it show if her behavior bothered him. He literally turned lemons to lemonade.
 
tiger8mush said:
Aren't oats a grain? Previous posts talked about the unhealthiness of grain, unless I misunderstood
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I'm not buying any of this nonsense that oats are bad for you. Pretty much every food we are told is good for you becomes bad for you at some point and vice versa. Oats come from the ground are rich in protein, fiber and antioxidants. They are heart healthy, filling and give you energy. I'll always consider them a good morning staple. I was told my whole life that eggs were horrible for you but I never stopped eating them. They said the whites were good for you but the yoke was horrible for you, this never made any sense to me and the docs had it all wrong. Do your own research and see how you feel when certain foods become a part of your diet. Often these so called experts have it all wrong.
 
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superjohn said:
I'm not buying any of this nonsense that oats are bad for you. Pretty much every food we are told is good for you becomes bad for you at some point and vice versa. Oats come from the ground are rich in protein, fiber and antioxidants. They are heart healthy, filling and give you energy. I'll always consider them a good morning staple. I was told my whole life that eggs were horrible for you but I never stopped eating them. They said the whites were good for you but the yoke was horrible for you, this never made any sense to me and the docs had it all wrong. Do your own research and see how you feel when certain foods become a part of your diet. Often these so called experts have it all wrong.
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Also, Blue Corn meal, a super food!
 
tiger8mush said:
I like to mix a bowl of fresh fruit (mostly berries), yogurt, and granola. Eat it every day. But you guys are making re-think the granola portion. What I could mix in in place of the granola?
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Nothing wrong with granola man, as long as it's not that fake sugary stuff. The good stuff tends to cost a bunch though.
 
superjohn said:
I'm not buying any of this nonsense that oats are bad for you. Pretty much every food we are told is good for you becomes bad for you at some point and vice versa. Oats come from the ground are rich in protein, fiber and antioxidants. They are heart healthy, filling and give you energy. I'll always consider them a good morning staple. I was told my whole life that eggs were horrible for you but I never stopped eating them. They said the whites were good for you but the yoke was horrible for you, this never made any sense to me and the docs had it all wrong. Do your own research and see how you feel when certain foods become a part of your diet. Often these so called experts have it all wrong.
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That whole thing on eggs was dangerous from the start and was surprised that it took off in the medical field.

Even in the 70's I was aware that the body could get cholesterol from carbohydrates as well as from ingestion of cholesterol foods because there are metabolic pathways in which cholesterol could be made from carbohydrates. There is a lot known about pathways even as there is a lot more to be uncovered. There is also a lot known about pathway interaction. Turn one pathway on, another gets deactivated or reduced activation. The problem is there is no easy or economical method to know each of our set ups. For instance, if someone has an overactive pathway in making cholesterol from carbs, giving this person a cholesterol free diet could be a death sentence if the consumption of cholesterol for that person helped reduce the carb to cholesterol pathway's activity. And the reverse is true.

A "balanced" diet is variable both between individuals and within an individual as that individual ages.
 
intlzncster said:
Closer than you think:

Immortality is one step closer as scientists turn off the ageing process in worms

Researchers Discover Off Switch for Ageing Cells

Harvard scientists reverse the ageing process in mice – now for humans
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Aware of telemeres for a while. Really happy the third article points out the elephant in the room - cancer.

Multicellular organisms gave up their ability for eternal life. The advantage of course is the ability to have greater control of the environment. A single cell organism is, in the right environment, perpetual. Multicellular organisms evolved because the environment in our universe is not conducive to life.

Cancer is horrible as we all know. But looking at it objectively it really is the reversion to an embryological state when our cells were undifferentiated. Undifferentiated cells in a multicellular organism are in effect a collective of single cell organisms. Follow the embryological development of any multicellular organism and you will get the "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny" development - that is the history of evolution manifests in that development. But in order to progress through that progression, new switches have to be activated as others are shut off.

I will be happier if and when the Harvard researchers demonstrate the reversion of aging on the general population of mice versus those genetically manipulated to be without telemerase. In the manipulated version, they removed an isolated feature that still has all of the other machinery in place which would be activated when the missing feature is reintroduced. Aging doesn't work as neatly.

My theory, as it has been for the last thirty or so years is that the process of rejuvenation of cells has to be manipulated with some type of energy field but only after an individuals entire biochemistry is understood. That would necessitate a leap in a technological development (finding a type of energy that can manipulate matter) and a whale of understanding about the biology of cells on an individual basis (another technological development necessity - think Star Trek).

The interesting thing is that I believe there are individuals who can do types of healing and it's not just confined to stories in the bible. If I'm correct, and I know some of these people, they may hold that key.
 
8893 said:
I have Anthem too and was going to check into exactly that. I'll still go either way, but if the alternatives are this or going on statins, I'd imagine this is less expensive for them in both the short and long term.
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I put the free part in for Boneyarders in general who might give it a try if no cost. Interesting about statins-I had muscle problems on regular doses. My newish doc had me try only 2 pills per week and this has worked for me. Another tidbit for unwashed masses who might have had problems like me.
 
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intlzncster said:
Closer than you think:

Immortality is one step closer as scientists turn off the ageing process in worms

Researchers Discover Off Switch for Ageing Cells

Harvard scientists reverse the ageing process in mice – now for humans
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So I write an essay yesterday in response to this and this morning I read two articles, one of which advances some questions I had regarding the above articles. The second article still puts into question a viable non invasive delivery system, but the first article is extremely intriguing. Just ignore the silly title.

http://scienceblog.com/483617/beta-cells-love-handles/

Chinese scientists genetically modify human embryos for the second time
 
prankster said:
Bacon, Beer, Rum....
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Speaking of bacon if anyone is ever in the Springfield HOF area on Tuesdays for Happy Hour you need to go into Samuels right in the basketball HOF building. They have Bacon Night on Tuesday's - yes bacon not chips, popcorn or mix, BACON. You get a basket any way you want it, crisp is king. Now admittedly I do like bacon but not that much, and I still don't like it that much with beer or cocktails but it does attract people. Add to it a very fun and good looking staff of bartenders it's a good place on most any evening, but bacon on Tuesday's is a bit different huh?
 
Loving all the advice in this thread. I've been having serious problems with stress/sleeping/fatigue for over a year. I've tried just about everything to remedy it. Because of you guys, I ordered a B12 supplement and have been taking it the last 5 days. I've felt more energy and more alert each day and my sleeping has improved tremendously - I've been sleeping for longer periods without waking up and feel more rested in the morning. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but I'm loving these improvements.
 
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