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Owning a dog is just flat out stupid. What's the return policy on it?
 
August_West said:
I didn't say it was good or bad but unless done absolutely correct it can be horrible for their development. The rule is no longer than 1 hour plus an hour for every month of age. And you better be wearing them out for an hour of play / attention before putting them inside. crating is tricky. I'm sitting next to a chocolate lab right now that was pretty ruined from improper crating before I rescued it.
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Did you edit your post, cause I swear it said something different when I replied!
 
uconnphil2016 said:
I'm doing this today, as I'm leaving for a couple of hours for school and then returning. I'm going to just crate during my classes for the next week or so, and see how it goes
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Like others have shared, our dog now goes into the crate on his own for naps. We now let him have free roam of the house at night, but we still put him in the crate during the day if we are not home. It has been a godsend. Plus it was very helpful with house training.

Note, our crate is not in our bedroom for a few reasons - 1, our bedroom is upstairs and our dog is not allowed upstairs in the bedrooms and 2, our crate is the size of a small laundry room (Clyde is a full grown male Great Dane and he still fits!)

Best of luck Phil!
 
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uconnphil2016 said:
Owning a puppy is a challenge, but it's definitely worth it. Dogs are just incredibly loving creatures that can teach us a lot about life.
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Oh, puh-lease. For every good, legitimate thing you can say towards owning a dog, I can list 5 that aren't. Maybe 10.
 
Deepster said:
Oh, puh-lease. For every good, legitimate thing you can say towards owning a dog, I can list 5 that aren't. Maybe 10.
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Cats are where its at. My next cat will be a Savana cat.
 
Deepster said:
Oh, puh-lease. For every good, legitimate thing you can say towards owning a dog, I can list 5 that aren't. Maybe 10.
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I love dogs. But some of it is where you are at in life. When my current one passes ( and he is a chocolate lab going on 12 so I don't anticipate more than 12-24 months tops) I will not be owning another dog ever. I might have even stopped at the last one when it passed 10 years ago but got this one simply because I felt my daughter should have one through her formative years like I did .
They are a lot of work and the reward for that work can be awesome when done right. But it does change the way you live. The downsides will outweigh the upsides for me after this one simply because I'm in a different place in life and no longer have the time or inclination to put in the work to do it right.
I want to go on vacations and not worry about kennels. I want to go away for weekends and not have to pay someone to pet sit. I don't want the medical bills. The walks. I don't want to feel guilty because I haven't taken him swimming enough. The middle of the night cry's to be let out. And emotionally don't have it in me anymore to go through the attachment I get to the dog and then the impending loss. It's my 5th over the course of my life. I'm done.
 
D$ said:
Sorry, August, but that's incorrect. Crate training is one of the best things you can do for a puppy/dog.

Phil, you might have a few rough nights. A few suggestions:

sleep next to him for a night or two
Have a toy that has the scent of his mom/litter mates
Play a radio or tv in background on low
Put a blanket over the crate

He's going to need to go out after 4-5 hours depending on size, but he should get used to it. When I crate trained my dog, I would always take him out around midnight and he would make it up 5-6am.

Best of luck!
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My son's dog loved his crate when he was a puppy for naps. I've heard the puppy feels safe and protected but other than that I know nothing.
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
Finally. The worst take of all time.
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We haven't gotten Fishy's weird I-was-bitten-by-a-dog-as-a-kid-and/or-I-have-a-crippling-case-of-germophobia-informed take yet, so don't you go handing out awards so fast.
 
Deepster said:
Oh, puh-lease. For every good, legitimate thing you can say towards owning a dog, I can list 5 that aren't. Maybe 10.
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You can do that for kids, too, you know.
 
August_West said:
A puppy that age should never be in a crate for more than 3 hours.

Why are you crate training? To housebreak?
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I did that once and never again. Maybe during the day. But a 8 week old puppy misses the warmth of the others. I have three small ones. They are spoiled but, hey, no crying. When my kids were small they used to sneak the pup into there bed. Dog slept all night.
 
D$ said:
Sorry, August, but that's incorrect. Crate training is one of the best things you can do for a puppy/dog.

Phil, you might have a few rough nights. A few suggestions:

sleep next to him for a night or two
Have a toy that has the scent of his mom/litter mates
Play a radio or tv in background on low
Put a blanket over the crate

He's going to need to go out after 4-5 hours depending on size, but he should get used to it. When I crate trained my dog, I would always take him out around midnight and he would make it up 5-6am.

Best of luck!
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Midnight? I would take them out at 9-9:30. Only if I am watching a game or movie it make t to ten. They sleep all night. What you are reading on this thread is all opinion. A good, loving family could train a dog. We did. We bred Westies and the people could not believe how well mannered.
 
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uconnphil2016 said:
This is what has happened lol. I tried every trick online from radio, moving crate into bedroom, everything. Pretty sure the dog is just a nut, so I put him in bed and it looks like he's just going to sleep with us from now on.
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Now that's what I am talking about. WTG!!!
 
Hankster said:
Midnight? I would take them out at 9-9:30. Only if I am watching a game or movie it make t to ten. They sleep all night. What you are reading on this thread is all opinion. A good, loving family could train a dog. We did. We bred Westies and the people could not believe how well mannered.
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Agree. Just sharing what worked very well for me with crate and potty training. Everyone has their own approach. As you know, the breed of dog also impacts how they should be trained / allowable behavior. No way would I have ever considered allowing my dog, as a pup, to sleep with us as we now would have a 180lb bed guest every night.
 
Deepster said:
Based on that comment, I’m gonna bet you don’t have kids.
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Based on your comment, I'm gonna bet you don't have dogs. See how that works?

I'm going to call you Eeyore from now on. Always negative about everything.
 
Dove said:
Would love to know what @Chief00 would do.
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I love dogs but wouldn’t have one in the bed. I believe in spending time to train dogs when pups. Wouldn’t crate them either although - my dog I trained not to go upstairs but let it live on first floor at night.
Take it out unleashed to go to the bathroom - it has always stayed on the property with one exception. Again, you must do the work - walk the property line with it - but mostly spend a lot of time outside with the dog and give the dog guidance if it nears the property lines. Admittedly, I am very fortunate, I have a coachable dog that aims to please - most dogs aren’ t that easy.
 
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Have owned a dozen dogs of different breeds over the last 30 years.
Crate training is, to me, an essential part of dog ownership. I see that some folks are very cautious about time in crate when young. Probably too conservative, but better that than to crate too long. We never had much of an issue, because we've always had multiple dogs. When the new pup comes home, he's got the pack all day, then he goes in the crate at midnight. Most make it through the night pretty soon after. Maybe having other dogs around made a difference. Don't know. Regarding dogs in bed . . . eh. We've had Great Danes and Chihuahuas in bed. Don't really like it. Never lasted more than a few days.
My wife was an ER nurse. Had one man come in with a broken femur. They had a female GSD that slept with them. Guy came back from the bathroom one night and the dog had the wife pinned down and was growling at her neck. Broke his femur tackling the dog off.
Of about 12 dogs, only had 1 that we could never crate train. A reverse brindle boxer. Great looking dog. Great family dog. But had MASSIVE separation anxiety and absolutely loathed his crate. He was born with hyperactive personality. Hard to describe how high strung Chief was. The dog got out one night when my FIL was watching the house. Ended up shot with bird shot through the back of the legs because the local cops thought he was a pit bull. That dog ended up with no teeth because he would chew at the crate or kennel wire when he was in. Hated to see it, but he would wreck the house if he was out. Once, when we let him out, he got into the bathroom where the kitty liter was. Got home, couldn't find him. Turned out he accidentally locked himself in the bathroom trying to get to the kitty treats behind the door. No lights on. In his panic he broke the toilet off the floor and ripped all the clam shell trim off of the door jam. When I opened the door, his entire frothy head was coated with clumping cat liter and he looked like some sort of oatmeal monster dog.
 
nomar said:
Based on your comment, I'm gonna bet you don't have dogs. See how that works?

I'm going to call you Eeyore from now on. Always negative about everything.
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That’s where you’re wrong. I have owned dogs. Never ever would again. I guess I’m just secure in myself to where I don’t need feigned love when I walk in the door every night like you.
 
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Deepster said:
Oh, puh-lease. For every good, legitimate thing you can say towards owning a dog, I can list 5 that aren't. Maybe 10.
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Cheer up, Squidward

You could use a puppy. Something tells me you haven’t received much affection in a long long time, well puppies have infinite supplies
 
Deepster said:
I don’t need feigned love when I walk in the door every night
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Somewhere, Mrs. Deepster just breathed a sigh of relief.
 
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Deepster said:
That’s where you’re wrong. I have owned dogs. Never ever would again. I guess I’m just secure in myself to where I don’t need feigned love when I walk in the door every night like you.
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I said "have," as in currently.

I don't know why you feel the need to interject yourself in a conversation about dog training only to dump on people's life choices, but it sure doesn't project security in yourself.
 
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nomar said:
I said "have," as in currently.

I don't know why you feel the need to interject yourself in a conversation about dog training only to dump on people's life choices, but it sure doesn't project security in yourself.
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I guess for the same reasons you interject that it’s something so life changing.
 
Deepster said:
I guess for the same reasons you interject that it’s something so life changing.
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Huh? I mean, I didn't even say that, but even if I did, it wouldn't be me being a dick, would it?

Glad it made sense to Swami, though. So cool!
 
nomar said:
Huh? I mean, I didn't even say that, but even if I did, it wouldn't be me being a dick, would it?

Glad it made sense to Swami, though. So cool!
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Awwww, does Nomie need some widdle puppy kisses?
 
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