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huskyharry said:
Two awful interceptions and specials teams breakdown allowed the winning touchdown are what cost Dallas the game.
But the phantom holding penalty that took away a touchdown certainly did not help.
I despise poor sportmanship and lack of teamwork...Hardy exhibited both. I also wish that an anvil would fall from the sky on Cromartie.
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Sounds like game 1 huh harry? We gave you a gift and you returned it. Although our phantom call was really a "phantom" call in the 1st game. Then of course the clock mgmt debacle which is the only reason the 'Boys had enough time to win - both ugly for the losers but certainly equal to their respective outcomes.
 
Scoe said:
Typical Giants they can never just suck, they win ugly to get you to buy in and get your hopes up which is why I'm not falling for it. Any of the 4 teams could win the division. The Giants desperately need Beatty, Cruz and JPP back.
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You would fall for the Giants after they struggled to beat a team without their starting QB and best receiver? They have their own injuries but cmon... Save yourself some heartache.
 
FourRings said:
You would fall for the Giants after they struggled to beat a team without their starting QB and best receiver? They have their own injuries but cmon... Save yourself some heartache.
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Give him a break though because the GMen had their best 2 receivers playing on one leg and basically ineffective. LBers and DB's out and have just as many excuses as Dallas to have sucked. Having said that I believe they do suck.
 
I wouldn't give up on this team yet. Being Giants fans, you guys should know that anything can happen in this league. I remember feeling ever so hopeless in Week 15 of the 2011 season after getting messed up by the Redskins at home. That loss brought the Giants to 7-7 at the time and making the playoffs was looking like a complete longshot. We all know about the winning streak that followed!
 
UConnSean said:
I wouldn't give up on this team yet. Being Giants fans, you guys should know that anything can happen in this league. I remember feeling ever so hopeless in Week 15 of the 2011 season after getting messed up by the Redskins at home. That loss brought the Giants to 7-7 at the time and making the playoffs was looking like a complete longshot. We all know about the winning streak that followed!
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We always have that, but you have to admit the one thing that we miss which will not allow us to beat the good teams is a pass rush and I don't see it coming any time soon. It hurts tremendously and makes it easy to prepare for the GMen defense.
 
mauconnfan said:
We always have that, but you have to admit the one thing that we miss which will not allow us to beat the good teams is a pass rush and I don't see it coming any time soon. It hurts tremendously and makes it easy to prepare for the GMen defense.
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Oh absolutely. I'm hoping that as (if?) the team gets healthier and guys like Ayers and Dennard get their footing back, the pass rush will be improved. I also think the offense is due for a real breakout game soon.
 
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UConnSean said:
Oh absolutely. I'm hoping that as (if?) the team gets healthier and guys like Ayers and Dennard will be able to provide a small spark to the pass rush. I also think the offense is due for a real breakout game soon.
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Kenner back even at 75% was good but he needs to get healthy. Ayers should be better and it will take time, I thought Wynn may turn into at least an Eric Dorsey type and he's been good but wasn't on Sunday. He was caught too deep a lot on runs his way. Maybe JPP will miraculously come back with and add a little "spark" to the D.:cool:
 
FourRings said:
You would fall for the Giants after they struggled to beat a team without their starting QB and best receiver? They have their own injuries but cmon... Save yourself some heartache.
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Did I say I would fall for or deny that the Giants suck? I was routing more for the Cowboys to lose then I was for the Giants to win. If the Giants suck which they do I wanna see them go 4-12 or worse so that changes do get made as opposed to winning meaningless games down the stretch going 7-9 or 8-8 then ownership thinks everything is fine and good and no changes need to be made.
 
Scoe said:
Compared to Newhouse though he makes Beatty look like Jonathan Ogden.
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Beatty was terrible in 2013 but last year he was very solid. Newhouse is flat out stinks.

Oline was great Sunday, big improvement over the Eagles game.
 
mauconnfan said:
Kenner back even at 75% was good but he needs to get healthy. Ayers should be better and it will take time, I thought Wynn may turn into at least an Eric Dorsey type and he's been good but wasn't on Sunday. He was caught too deep a lot on runs his way. Maybe JPP will miraculously come back with and add a little "spark" to the D.:cool:
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Kenner? WTF I hate the iMac sometimes - Kennard
 
FourRings said:
You would fall for the Giants after they struggled to beat a team without their starting QB and best receiver? They have their own injuries but cmon... Save yourself some heartache.
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Giants should have beat the Cowboys in Dallas with Romo and Dez, that game still keeps me up at night
 
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Jerry1714 said:
Giants should have beat the Cowboys in Dallas with Romo and Dez, that game still keeps me up at night
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Crap... The should have argument. Okay Scott Norwood.
 
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FourRings said:
Crap... The should have argument. Okay Scott Norwood.
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Ha, this is comical coming from the guy who made the idiotic argument about them struggling with the Cowboys as a representation they are not good. Ok buddy, it only works for you
 
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mauconnfan said:
I think as a woman she is probably wondering how the hell this guy could be called a leader at all based on his history with women. That's a great find tcf and says it all about Jones and his organization.

I'm hearing they may release Rae Carruth in a week or so as he will then become the leader of the offense for his passion too.
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The Cowboys are a sh_t show because Jerry Jones is a sh_t show. He went the Al Davis route, once a successful owner, then believed too much in his ability (or lack thereof, then senile. Won't change until he's no longer owner.
 
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Rico444 said:
I've given up caring about guys on my team being model citizens. I loathe Greg Hardy off the field, but he's fantastic on it. While it would be nice if he were a great guy, I've learned to separate the two. I guarantee if you went through every roster and took a good hard look at each guy, you'd find a couple of terrible people. I remember the Giants having a linebacker a few years ago, some nobody that beat his wife and kid and yet nobody gave a damn and he was out there on Sunday.

EDIT: Michael Boley, that's his name! Here's an article about the local teams employing pieces of human garbage.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...-players-questionable-pasts-article-1.1943763
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Gotta draw the line somewhere though. I wouldn't want Greg hardy on my team. And there's not a person in the country who'd take Aaron hernandez.
 
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intlzncster said:
Gotta draw the line somewhere though. I wouldn't want Greg hardy on my team. And there's not a person in the country who'd take Aaron hernandez.
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So where is the line? How hard do you have to beat your wife before you cross that line? Apparently the Giants are still a classy organization for signing a guy in Michael Boley AFTER he beat his wife, but Jerry Jones and the Cowboys are a bunch of punks for signing Hardy? I just want some consistency here.
 
Rico444 said:
So where is the line? How hard do you have to beat your wife before you cross that line? Apparently the Giants are still a classy organization for signing a guy in Michael Boley AFTER he beat his wife, but Jerry Jones and the Cowboys are a bunch of punks for signing Hardy? I just want some consistency here.
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Who said the Giants are perfect, and I would take a guy who has a questionable past if it means he can win us a Super Bowl. At least Boley acted like a decent human being in the public eye unlike Hardy. If the Giants signed Hardy which I actually did want them to sign to a 1 year deal, it would have been a storm with the NY media so that part I understood. Greg Hardy's off the field issues in the public eye don't compare to Boley's that is the difference.
 
Jerry Jones embraces being a media spectacle and getting front page news on Espin he's the team owner, president and GM for a reason, and the Giants ownership want absolutely nothing to do with it
 
Scoe said:
Who said the Giants are perfect, and I would take a guy who has a questionable past if it means he can win us a Super Bowl. At least Boley acted like a decent human being in the public eye unlike Hardy. If the Giants signed Hardy which I actually did want them to sign to a 1 year deal, it would have been a storm with the NY media so that part I understood. Greg Hardy's off the field issues in the public eye don't compare to Boley's that is the difference.
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C'mon, dude. Both beat their wives, and Boley even beat his kid, too. As long as you act contrite afterwards, it makes it OK?

By the way, Plaxico had a few domestic violence run-ins and caused problems with the Giants off the field, too, and the team tolerated it until he shot himself in the leg and couldn't play anymore. That was a complete circus...but if you want to take the moral high-ground with the Giants and poo-poo the Cowboys, feel free to do just that.
 
Rico444 said:
So where is the line? How hard do you have to beat your wife before you cross that line? Apparently the Giants are still a classy organization for signing a guy in Michael Boley AFTER he beat his wife, but Jerry Jones and the Cowboys are a bunch of punks for signing Hardy? I just want some consistency here.
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Yeah, I don't have an answer, but when there's evidence that you've beat a woman, not in the act of defending yourself physically, then I personally don't want you on my team. I want guys I can root for, not guys I despise. It's admittedly a grey line though, because, I also believe in second chances in some cases. A guy who slapped a woman once, and is contrite and shows himself to be accountable (counselling, anger management, comportment, community service)? I could live with that. Ray Rice cold cocking his fiance and dragging her out by the hair? Not so much. Hardy? No way in hell. And he terrorized the Pats last week. As a player alone, I'd love him on my team. But not with his off the field background.

Note, I didn't pay any attention to the Boley stuff, as I'm not a Giants fan. Arguably the greatest player in Giants history is a noted coke head and underage prostitute fan. But that wouldn't bother me were it my team. I guess it's a to each his own thing.
 
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mauconnfan said:
C'mon intlzncster "he's a leader" of course you extend deals with criminals, why not? :eek:
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While I'm not surprised at all that JJ is extending the guy, you gotta admit the timing is astounding and ludicrously tone deaf.
 
Jerry1714 said:
Ha, this is comical coming from the guy who made the idiotic argument about them struggling with the Cowboys as a representations they are not good. Ok buddy, it only works for you
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It was intenteded to be comical. You missed it Jerry.
 
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