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Nice choices on who NOT to root for. Liverpool was probably a tad easier to root for before Suarez big again. But it sounds like they might sell him to Barcelona anyway. I like 'em. They're owned by the Red Sox. They used to be dominant but haven't won a title since like 1990 or something. Everton and Tottenham are also good teams to root for -- good, but not so good that they're bandwagon teams who bought titles.

It was easy for me cause my best friend is British and a die-hard Liverpool fan. But it can be tough to find the right team.

You can root for anybody as long as you don't root for Manchester United. ;)

Liverpool came to The Rent and put on a show. That's why I root for them.
 

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Well that's completely wrong. Yedlin had a good game, but he's not at Johnson's level yet. He could be in the future though. Maybe we can move Johnson over to LB. He's played there for us before.

Did Johnson even get a call before he pulled up lame? Yedlin was instant, continuous impact. Belgium had to game plan for him at halftime.
 
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Well, sure, if you don't count the entire rest of the world.

Yeah that's all I'm talking about. Soccer has been the most popular sport globally for decades now.

And yes, I'd like to try and "Americanize" the game and no I won't offer any apologies for that.
 
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ZooCougar said:
With Donovan, there was always something with him. He was homesick, he missed his sister, he missed the California sunshine. The sabbatical was the last straw. Honestly, the problem here is that some people still think the 2010 Donovan still exists. He doesn't. End of story. JUST LET HIM GO.

I know perfectly well that 2010 Donovan doesn't exist, but I also know that the 2014 team had a void that 2014 Donovan could have filled. We couldn't serve a decent ball on a set piece and had the worst completion rate on corner kicks in the tournament. A late game replacement who can put a ball into danger or have the poise to finish can be a big weapon and it showed that we were missing that. Other counties kept their aging vets for that reason - Klose, Drogba, Essien, Lampard, Forlan, etc.

Remember the Edu goal waved off against Slovenia for some reason in 2010? Perfect serve from Donovan on a set piece. We never looked that dangerous this time around. We could have used a ball like that in overtime when we needed a goal, instead of Bradley hitting one out of bounds over everyone (as I said, you'd like him on the receiving end anyway) and Bedoya not clearing the first defenders on a corner. Never mind Wondo (who also froze and let a Yedlin cross hit him in the shins in the second overtime without a shot attempt).

That said, it's clear that a fair case can be made to leave him home, and one instant (Wondo's finish) would have eliminated the discussion entirely. Just amazes me how many US fans (on other boards like Big Soccer) still hate the guy. The "Landycakes" stuff should have died in 2010.
 
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Just listened to re-play of Dan Patrick Show. Eric Wynalda called in, was going off on JK for defensive game plan, likened yesterday's game to 1-0 loss to Brazil in 1994, then somehow made the extroaordinary leap suggesting the USMNT has made no progress in 20 years. Guy was pretty fired up, Patrick had to use the delay button because of language.

I am thinking paxil is in order here.
 
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I am happy as to what we showed, and happy with the effort, but we were in over our heads. The other teams had guys from this European League and that European League. Chlesea Liverpool PSG. We had Kansas City. We had no answere No answer for Lakaku. We need to get more guys over there and play every week, or import some guys to play MLS. That's why Donovan did not make it. He decided to mail it in last year.

Good base of Green Chandler, Yedlin maybe Bradley Guzan Rimando Johanssen.. Mix could be there as well I guess. More German Americans. More European League. Klinsman has to insist that they stay away from the MLS as long as possible.

Go Costa Rica. We were lucky to beat them in the snow game. Not sure what happened in Costa Rica. Look out next time for them and Mexico.

As I said this is the change year for me. Much more soccer, even MLS, and less of everything else. Family get - togethers used to center around traditional sports now it's Premiere League and UCONN.
 

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Zoo, do not, I repeat, do not buy into anything an Arsenal supporter says, ever... Even their parents don't trust them. Down with the Scum. ;) Come On You Spurrrrs!
I just threw up. ;)

You guys are the Scum. We're the Gooners.

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Did Johnson even get a call before he pulled up lame? Yedlin was instant, continuous impact. Belgium had to game plan for him at halftime.
yea, like 3 good games. Howard, Jones and Johnson were our 3 best players this WC.
 
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Just listened to re-play of Dan Patrick Show. Eric Wynalda called in, was going off on JK for defensive game plan, likened yesterday's game to 1-0 loss to Brazil in 1994, then somehow made the extroaordinary leap suggesting the USMNT has made no progress in 20 years. Guy was pretty fired up, Patrick had to use the delay button because of language.

I am thinking paxil is in order here.

Leaving Donovan off was a mistake, but Wynalda is the ultimate @clown.
 

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I have been an on and off MLS fan. But i just bought tickets for six Sporting KC games. Looking for an EPL side to become a fan of, I am open to pulling for any side but Arsenal, Man City, Man U and Chelsea.
I would love to go to Portland for a MLS game. The atmosphere there seems crazy! As for EPL team, come join us Swansea City fans! Screw the high paying sides, it's like cheering for the Yankees or Red Sox (I'm a Brewers fan so small markets). In all honesty, just watch a few games this fall. You can get every one on your TV through NBC Extra Time or whatever they call it. I know I got it on Cox and it was great to be able to watch my team instead of the usual big names. My buddies an Arsenal fan and I must say, of the big 4-5 tams in the EPL, I'd be ok with either Arsenal or Liverpool. However, went to Wales two years ago and saw a Swansea game and was hooked as a fan.
 
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FrostyNuggets said:
Think this is the case, only a Karl Heinz rumminegge situation gets him on the field. But then again, would not be surprised to see anything.

What does this mean in English?

1982 World Cup semi-final. France went up 3-1 in extra time, Germany put Rumminigge, who was injured, in the game with 15 mins to go. The guy scored 1, set up the second to pull even, and went on to win in PKs.
 

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Nice choices on who NOT to root for. Liverpool was probably a tad easier to root for before Suarez big again. But it sounds like they might sell him to Barcelona anyway. I like 'em. They're owned by the Red Sox. They used to be dominant but haven't won a title since like 1990 or something. Everton and Tottenham are also good teams to root for -- good, but not so good that they're bandwagon teams who bought titles.

It was easy for me cause my best friend is British and a die-hard Liverpool fan. But it can be tough to find the right team.

You can root for anybody as long as you don't root for Manchester United. ;)
Or Man City.....god that team drives me crazy. I find their games boring as well. The atmosphere feels none existent at the Ethiad
 

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I have no problem if some Americans don't like soccer. It's perfectly reasonable why some don't. Sports fans here (and abroad) like to watch the best and the best soccer - especially at the club level - is not played in North America. It's a fact (the extent of flopping is a tad ridiculous as well). On the other hand, the access to and following of full BPL matches that America now enjoys illustrates the fervor that soccer can generate in the US. Even with the BPL, I think it it's harder here because fanbases are made up of locals and it's tough to follow a particular team playing their games 3,000-6,000 miles away, at a minimum. MLS is merely 18 years old, which is roughly 80 years (or more) younger than many European leagues (let alone the top ones), the following is better, and the players are paid much better. The MLS is made up of the equivalent to Quad-A baseball players.

Secondly, talking heads don't talk about soccer unless the US is in the World Cup or they upset Spain and makes the final of another top tournament (i.e. the Confederation Cup). Therefore, talking heads don't understand/know how to talk about soccer during the other 48 weeks of the year.

I listen to WEEI out of Boston every single day (It's the only sports talk radio I can get on my entire ride to / from work). The Revolution barely get a passing mention on most days. It is the same in New York City (Francesa doesn't know if a player can use both legs to kick). These are the most popular radio shows in 2 of the top 6 (including the largest) media markets in the country. I understand the chicken and egg argument. A show won't incorporate soccer segments if they can't ensure ratings and their audience really isn't clamoring for it. But are audiences really clamoring for golf? If a sports fan isn't a golfer, it is excruciating to watch. Before I got into the sport (activity, really), if I put on golf, and I was asleep in 12 minutes. Yet, not only is golf not mocked, it is celebrated. Denis & Callahan devote at least one segment per day for a week leading up to the British Open. The best they could say about the match vs. Ghana is that they didn't change the channel. Soccer is a better spectator sport, has more action, is more fluid, has a better world-wide following, and yet people who have just over zero knowledge of the game make fun of those who do.

At the end of the day, the mocking (on both sides) is my biggest issue. If you don't like or understand a sport? Fine. Thread topic are typically clearly marked. You are not forced to click or comment. Just recognize that soccer has a substantial following in this country.
 
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Just listened to re-play of Dan Patrick Show. Eric Wynalda called in, was going off on JK for defensive game plan, likened yesterday's game to 1-0 loss to Brazil in 1994, then somehow made the extroaordinary leap suggesting the USMNT has made no progress in 20 years. Guy was pretty fired up, Patrick had to use the delay button because of language.

I am thinking paxil is in order here.

Wynalda thinks that he is the only person on the planet qualified to coach the USMNT. He's been a wackjob since John Harkes was laying the wood to his wife.
 
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I would love to go to Portland for a MLS game. The atmosphere there seems crazy! As for EPL team, come join us Swansea City fans! Screw the high paying sides, it's like cheering for the Yankees or Red Sox (I'm a Brewers fan so small markets). In all honesty, just watch a few games this fall. You can get every one on your TV through NBC Extra Time or whatever they call it. I know I got it on Cox and it was great to be able to watch my team instead of the usual big names. My buddies an Arsenal fan and I must say, of the big 4-5 tams in the EPL, I'd be ok with either Arsenal or Liverpool. However, went to Wales two years ago and saw a Swansea game and was hooked as a fan.

KC isn't bad either. But it isn't Portland. I sat next to a Timbers Exec on a plane last year and he gave me two tickets to the All Star game.

I hate being a front runner, but I'll consider Arsenal, Swansea, Wigan and few others. I have a pathological hatred for anything even tangentially linked to Boston sports, so Liverpool is non starter.
 
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I have no problem if some Americans don't like soccer. It's perfectly reasonable why some don't. Sports fans here (and abroad) like to watch the best and the best soccer - especially at the club level - is not played in North America. It's a fact (the extent of flopping is a tad ridiculous as well). On the other hand, the access to and following of full BPL matches that America now enjoys illustrates the fervor that soccer can generate in the US. Even with the BPL, I think it it's harder here because fanbases are made up of locals and it's tough to follow a particular team playing their games 3,000-6,000 miles away, at a minimum. MLS is merely 18 years old, which is roughly 80 years (or more) younger than many European leagues (let alone the top ones), the following is better, and the players are paid much better. The MLS is made up of the equivalent to Quad-A baseball players.

Secondly, talking heads don't talk about soccer unless the US is in the World Cup or they upset Spain and makes the final of another top tournament (i.e. the Confederation Cup). Therefore, talking heads don't understand/know how to talk about soccer during the other 48 weeks of the year.

I listen to WEEI out of Boston every single day (It's the only sports talk radio I can get on my entire ride to / from work). The Revolution barely get a passing mention on most days. It is the same in New York City (Francesa doesn't know if a player can use both legs to kick). These are the most popular radio shows in 2 of the top 6 (including the largest) media markets in the country. I understand the chicken and egg argument. A show won't incorporate soccer segments if they can't ensure ratings and their audience really isn't clamoring for it. But are audiences really clamoring for golf? If a sports fan isn't a golfer, it is excruciating to watch. Before I got into the sport (activity, really), if I put on golf, and I was asleep in 12 minutes. Yet, not only is golf not mocked, it is celebrated. Denis & Callahan devote at least one segment per day for a week leading up to the British Open. The best they could say about the match vs. Ghana is that they didn't change the channel. Soccer is a better spectator sport, has more action, is more fluid, has a better world-wide following, and yet people who have just over zero knowledge of the game make fun of those who do.

At the end of the day, the mocking (on both sides) is my biggest issue. If you don't like or understand a sport? Fine. Thread topic are typically clearly marked. You are not forced to click or comment. Just recognize that soccer has a substantial following in this country.

I think that MLS gets more play in the smaller markets like KC, Portland and even Houston, which isn't so small. Seattle is freaky good, Portland is like a mini Seattle.

You can't get on the highway in KC and not see a Sporting KC sticker on other cars. You can't go out in public and not see people in Sporting KC gear.
 

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I think that MLS gets more play in the smaller markets like KC, Portland and even Houston, which isn't so small. Seattle is freaky good, Portland is like a mini Seattle.

You can't get on the highway in KC and not see a Sporting KC sticker on other cars. You can't go out in public and not see people in Sporting KC gear.

I don't doubt it. But in the northeast, I would hope for more soccer coverage than NASCAR.
 
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I don't doubt it. But in the northeast, I would hope for more soccer coverage than NASCAR.

NY and Boston have entrenched stick and ball media. The sports talkradio is geared to sickly old fat men, because that is what there audience is. Soccer fans are getting their fix on Sirius or just not listening to the radio at all. They are too busy being good looking and just being awesome in general. Talkradio ads are all ads for cheap viagra and prostate care for a reason.

Honestly there is is a reason why FIFA is the best selling XBOX/PS game out there.
 

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I think that MLS gets more play in the smaller markets like KC, Portland and even Houston, which isn't so small. Seattle is freaky good, Portland is like a mini Seattle.

You can't get on the highway in KC and not see a Sporting KC sticker on other cars. You can't go out in public and not see people in Sporting KC gear.
Where's the stadium in KC? Is it in the same complex as Arrowhead and Kaufman? I've been to a Royal game and remember the stadium being a bit outside KC. Was curious is the soccer stadium was closer to downtown. Always love downtown stadiums where you can walk to/from a bar or restaurant before or after a game.
 

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NY and Boston have entrenched stick and ball media. The sports talkradio is geared to sickly old fat men, because that is what there audience is. Soccer fans are getting their fix on Sirius or just not listening to the radio at all. They are too busy being good looking and just being awesome in general. Talkradio ads are all ads for cheap viagra and prostate care for a reason.

Honestly there is is a reason why FIFA is the best selling XBOX/PS game out there.
HEY!!!!!!
 
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Where's the stadium in KC? Is it in the same complex as Arrowhead and Kaufman? I've been to a Royal game and remember the stadium being a bit outside KC. Was curious is the soccer stadium was closer to downtown. Always love downtown stadiums where you can walk to/from a bar or restaurant before or after a game.

It's over by Legends/Village West and the NASCAR track. KC knew what it was doing in strategic planning. Imagine if the Rent was in a place like this. Once can only dream.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Village_West
 

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It's over by Legends/Village West and the NASCAR track. KC knew what it was doing in strategic planning. Imagine if the Rent was in a place like this. Once can only dream.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Village_West

I visited KC 3 years ago (Summer before my son was born). The mall being developed at the Rent should include an area like The Power & Light District.
 

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It's over by Legends/Village West and the NASCAR track. KC knew what it was doing in strategic planning. Imagine if the Rent was in a place like this. Once can only dream.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Village_West
Was this the place they always panned to when showing people watching the game in KC? It looked like some kind of shopping area.
 
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