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Acc- if the network doesn't work in a couple years has a 28mil per team line in it. That makes it pretty obvious that ESPN thinks both the big and sec will make 30+ and they need to keep the acc within distance to survive. Or if the network works and they can buy back everything then expect that total to be just over 30. The acc is set to be the 4th best in money, top or 2nd in bball and 4th in fball. They made it. They had go getters that were aggressive. We didn't. Academics are nice, go root for Yale. Do they have a board like this? Sports trump academics. Money trumps all. Lville put sports ahead of academics and then money over the town. They got a invite. Rutgers put sports over academics to a point of fail we have never seen and are still reading news about. They then took money and expanded to the states dreg. They got a invite. Eventually a few here and at uconn will get it. Or at least I continue to sit here and hope they will.

I may be a 20 year old home less jack wagon who smokes crack and rants, but this stuff seems pretty straight forward. So based off this I predict uconn will not market season tickets to the public, not care about the direction of football and won't do 1 million other things that the big boys do.
 
cardsfan123 said:
You guys have only been bragging about it for the last 4 pages, so it must be.
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Come on man. We beat you with Brohm, we beat you with Bridgewater. Beating you guys is,nothing special to us. You have a nice program, but don't try to make yourself some kind if power.
 
HuskyfanDan said:
Acc- if the network doesn't work in a couple years has a 28mil per team line in it. That makes it pretty obvious that ESPN thinks both the big and sec will make 30+ and they need to keep the acc within distance to survive. Or if the network works and they can buy back everything then expect that total to be just over 30. The acc is set to be the 4th best in money, top or 2nd in bball and 4th in fball. They made it. They had go getters that were aggressive. We didn't. Academics are nice, go root for Yale. Do they have a board like this? Sports trump academics. Money trumps all. Lville put sports ahead of academics and then money over the town. They got a invite. Rutgers put sports over academics to a point of fail we have never seen and are still reading news about. They then took money and expanded to the states dreg. They got a invite. Eventually a few here and at uconn will get it. Or at least I continue to sit here and hope they will.

I may be a 20 year old home less jack wagon who smokes crack and rants, but this stuff seems pretty straight forward. So based off this I predict uconn will not market season tickets to the public, not care about the direction of football and won't do 1 million other things that the big boys do.
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The 28mm is 2mm per 14 full members if I remember correctly. It bumps them from just shy of 18 to just shy of 20 per team.
 
WordUpBU said:
The 28mm is 2mm per 14 full members if I remember correctly. It bumps them from just shy of 18 to just shy of 20 per team.
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Why did u have to take the bait?
 
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God this board has become unreadable. I used to enjoy it but it seems to have been over run by idiots in the past month. The B1G folk who came at first seemed to be knowledgable and all but they've run their course. Next came my favorite fan group, Rutgers. They were a bundle of fun. Now we have these two idiot Louisville fans? Seriously?? Do you have nothing better to do with your time than to come to another teams board and just be a provoking @$$? I mean come on.....I guess the CR board has run its course for me....too bad too.
 
BobbyPs Ghost said:
Given that you post about a hundred times a day here, when would you find the time?
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It takes me a lot less than 15 minutes to type 20 words. Amazing, I know, but I'm certainly not the product of a Kentucky education.
 
cardsfan123 said:
Barring a run in the BET, you guys were a borderline NCAA Tournament team. A decent SOS is nice (every Big East team had one), but a losing record against top 50 teams doesn't impress the committee.
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Wrong on all counts.
 
Welcome to Louisville where it takes Internet posters 15 minutes to type 20 words and 15 years to realize the city balance sheet was rape'd by a commuter school. Yum! My type of timeline.
 
I went on a cruise and met some nice people who were Louisville grads. I was shocked to learn that they considered us a big rival. It's nice to beat them, but I could really care less about the "rivalry." If their fans really care about beating us, then they are the Providence of the South.
 
upstater said:
It takes me a lot less than 15 minutes to type 20 words. Amazing, I know, but I'm certainly not the product of a Kentucky education.
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I sure hope so; if not you never would have held onto that secretarial position. Don't forget all of the time it takes you to:

1. Scour the board for anything remotely unflattering to UConn.
2. Work yourself into a snit.
3. Prepare a pithy comeback.
4. De-bunch your panties.
5. Be overcome with smug satisfaction.
6. Lather, rinse & repeat.

You must be a shut in - no?
 
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HuskyfanDan said:
Welcome to Louisville where it takes Internet posters 15 minutes to type 20 words and 15 years to realize the city balance sheet was rape'd by a commuter school. Yum! My type of timeline.
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Ummm, pretty sure our new arena will cost the taxpayers significantly less than the 1.5B that your state legislature is wanting to hand a school that no major conference is interested in associating with...
 
BobbyPs Ghost said:
Ummm, pretty sure our new arena will cost the taxpayers significantly less than the 1.5B that your state legislature is wanting to hand a school that no major conference is interested in associating with...
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The 1.5B initiative has nothing to do with athletics. UConn won't buy its way into any conference let alone cook the books to do so.
 
and to be honest, I don't mind my tax dollars going to improved secondary education. There's a lot worse it can be spent on. FWIW, CT was running a surplus before the economic downturn. I'd expect us to be running a surplus soon enough.
 
The Funster said:
The 1.5B initiative has nothing to do with athletics. UConn won't buy its way into any conference let alone cook the books to do so.
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Never suggested it did - I was simply commenting on the total amount of tax dollars earmarked irrespective of their purpose. BTW, your continued ranting about Louisville "cooking the books" doesn't hold water - not that I need you to trot out your "evidence" again. You've beat that dead horse until its just a stain...
 
UCFBfan said:
God this board has become unreadable. I used to enjoy it but it seems to have been over run by idiots in the past month. The B1G folk who came at first seemed to be knowledgable and all but they've run their course. Next came my favorite fan group, Rutgers. They were a bundle of fun. Now we have these two idiot Louisville fans? Seriously?? Do you have nothing better to do with your time than to come to another teams board and just be a provoking @ ? I mean come on.....I guess the CR board has run its course for me....too bad too.
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I post here, not to provoke, but because I believe I share a common interest with a number of you: UConn to the B1G. The initial expansion of the B1G to include Penn State and then Nebraska made sense to me given their status as football brands. After the announcement that Maryland and Rutgers were invited, my initial reaction was similar to that of a number of my fellow B1G alums: why? However, as I came to understand the rationale, my perspective changed to: is that it? I think the end game for the B1G was UNC and UVA but it was arrogant of the B1G leadership to think that their joining the B1G was a foregone conclusion just because Maryland and Rutgers were invited. I also think it remains arrogant for the B1G leadership to think we have a bi-regional conference and can capture the NYC market just because Maryland and Rutgers were invited. Since this B1G expansion is now about developing academic collaboration with universities and penetrating markets on the east coast, then do it right. Seek out public research universities in the east that meet the mold of the B1G and will provide the academic collaboration and market penetration desired to be a true bi-regional conference. During this process, do not discount a university just because it lacks AAU membership . Do I have insider information?: no. Do I have sway on the B1G leadership?: no. As an Ohio State alum, I care about the B1G and think UConn would be a great addition to the conference. I wanted to post to let you know that there are some of us in the B1G who see your value and let you know that we appreciate you seeing value in becoming a B1G member. If us "B1G folk have run our course" then I will stop posting and hope that one day UConn receives a B1G invite and wish you well until that time.
 
BobbyPs Ghost said:
Ummm, pretty sure our new arena will cost the taxpayers significantly less than the 1.5B that your state legislature is wanting to hand a school that no major conference is interested in associating with...
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You're not very bright are you?

You make a reference to CT spending 1.5B on a school that is not in a major conference and then I say

The 1.5B initiative has nothing to do with athletics. UConn won't buy its way into any conference let alone cook the books to do so.
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and then you say

Never suggested it did - I was simply commenting on the total amount of tax dollars earmarked irrespective of their purpose.
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If you never meant to suggest that the initiative has anything to do with athletics why would you say anything about a major conference?

See, if you want to make a point, make a point. However, at least try to be consistent about it. Other wise you just embarrass yourself. Maybe you're used to that, though. I don't know.
 
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B1GALUM said:
I post here, not to provoke, but because I believe I share a common interest with a number of you: UConn to the B1G. The initial expansion of the B1G to include Penn State and then Nebraska made sense to me given their status as football brands. After the announcement that Maryland and Rutgers were invited, my initial reaction was similar to that of a number of my fellow B1G alums: why? However, as I came to understand the rationale, my perspective changed to: is that it? I think the end game for the B1G was UNC and UVA but it was arrogant of the B1G leadership to think that their joining the B1G was a foregone conclusion just because Maryland and Rutgers were invited. I also think it remains arrogant for the B1G leadership to think we have a bi-regional conference and can capture the NYC market just because Maryland and Rutgers were invited. Since this B1G expansion is now about developing academic collaboration with universities and penetrating markets on the east coast, then do it right. Seek out public research universities in the east that meet the mold of the B1G and will provide the academic collaboration and market penetration desired to be a true bi-regional conference. During this process, do not discount a university just because it lacks AAU membership . Do I have insider information?: no. Do I have sway on the B1G leadership?: no. As an Ohio State alum, I care about the B1G and think UConn would be a great addition to the conference. I wanted to post to let you know that there are some of us in the B1G who see your value and let you know that we appreciate you seeing value in becoming a B1G member. If us "B1G folk have run our course" then I will stop posting and hope that one day UConn receives a B1G invite and wish you well until that time.
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You are more than welcome to post on our board. I can't say the same for couple of those UL fans, but it is refreshing to read your input. Yes, just about all the UCONN fans want UCONN in the B1G since we would be with our academic state flagship peers. In the ACC, we won't be because there are only UVA and UNC that are state flagship universities. I hope our leadership can get us into the B1G. In return, UCONN will help B1G penetrate New England and NYC markets. I hope no doubt UCONN football will grow rapidly in the B1G.
 
B1GALUM said:
I post here, not to provoke, but because I believe I share a common interest with a number of you: UConn to the B1G. The initial expansion of the B1G to include Penn State and then Nebraska made sense to me given their status as football brands. After the announcement that Maryland and Rutgers were invited, my initial reaction was similar to that of a number of my fellow B1G alums: why? However, as I came to understand the rationale, my perspective changed to: is that it? I think the end game for the B1G was UNC and UVA but it was arrogant of the B1G leadership to think that their joining the B1G was a foregone conclusion just because Maryland and Rutgers were invited. I also think it remains arrogant for the B1G leadership to think we have a bi-regional conference and can capture the NYC market just because Maryland and Rutgers were invited. Since this B1G expansion is now about developing academic collaboration with universities and penetrating markets on the east coast, then do it right. Seek out public research universities in the east that meet the mold of the B1G and will provide the academic collaboration and market penetration desired to be a true bi-regional conference. During this process, do not discount a university just because it lacks AAU membership . Do I have insider information?: no. Do I have sway on the B1G leadership?: no. As an Ohio State alum, I care about the B1G and think UConn would be a great addition to the conference. I wanted to post to let you know that there are some of us in the B1G who see your value and let you know that we appreciate you seeing value in becoming a B1G member. If us "B1G folk have run our course" then I will stop posting and hope that one day UConn receives a B1G invite and wish you well until that time.
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Don't go. We need allies. The couple of Cardinal fans are wearing thin, ATM.
 
B1GALUM said:
I post here, not to provoke, but because I believe I share a common interest with a number of you: UConn to the B1G. The initial expansion of the B1G to include Penn State and then Nebraska made sense to me given their status as football brands. After the announcement that Maryland and Rutgers were invited, my initial reaction was similar to that of a number of my fellow B1G alums: why? However, as I came to understand the rationale, my perspective changed to: is that it? I think the end game for the B1G was UNC and UVA but it was arrogant of the B1G leadership to think that their joining the B1G was a foregone conclusion just because Maryland and Rutgers were invited. I also think it remains arrogant for the B1G leadership to think we have a bi-regional conference and can capture the NYC market just because Maryland and Rutgers were invited. Since this B1G expansion is now about developing academic collaboration with universities and penetrating markets on the east coast, then do it right. Seek out public research universities in the east that meet the mold of the B1G and will provide the academic collaboration and market penetration desired to be a true bi-regional conference. During this process, do not discount a university just because it lacks AAU membership . Do I have insider information?: no. Do I have sway on the B1G leadership?: no. As an Ohio State alum, I care about the B1G and think UConn would be a great addition to the conference. I wanted to post to let you know that there are some of us in the B1G who see your value and let you know that we appreciate you seeing value in becoming a B1G member. If us "B1G folk have run our course" then I will stop posting and hope that one day UConn receives a B1G invite and wish you well until that time.
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It was probably unfair of me to group the B1G folks in my original post as many of you have offered information and been open to conversation and provoked positive conversation. Really I was directing it to the posters from other schools who have nothing to contribute other than defending their schools and putting down UConn at the same time. It's one thing to come and post sensibly and openly. It's another to clog up the board with crap that just wastes time. So again, my apologies for including you all in that. You and some of the other B1G posters have been a nice addition to the board.
 
BobbyPs Ghost said:
I sure hope so; if not you never would have held onto that secretarial position. Don't forget all of the time it takes you to:

1. Scour the board for anything remotely unflattering to UConn.
2. Work yourself into a snit.
3. Prepare a pithy comeback.
4. De-bunch your panties.
5. Be overcome with smug satisfaction.
6. Lather, rinse & repeat.

You must be a shut in - no?
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This is about a 50/50 post regarding the city (I strain to even call it that) of Louisville. Nothing to do with unflattering comments about UConn. No, I didn't get worked up about it--I can care less about hickville. I'm not the one that was grossly insulted by a post that said, I like Ville sports, jazz and a hotel, but the town entertainment is a strip mall where you can't get a taxi, and someone's blood boiled. Not mine. I'm not on your board either. I suggest you grow up and grow some thicker skin.
 
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BobbyPs Ghost said:
Ummm, pretty sure our new arena will cost the taxpayers significantly less than the 1.5B that your state legislature is wanting to hand a school that no major conference is interested in associating with...
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Holy cow--a guy who thinks education isn't worth the investment. Why am I not surprised?
 
Repost comparing how UConn and Louisville log revenue:

In 2008-9 Louisville was at $56,540,896 total revenue.
That same year UConn was at $58,446,441.

That was the last year before Ville started rocketing forward in revenue.

The next year Ville went to $63 million (2009-2010) while UConn hit $63 million in 2010-2011.
Louisville meanwhile skyrocketed to $87 million.

That has EVERYTHING to do with the new facilities.

Especially when you consider that UConn's sponsorships and licensing (in a market that is much bigger than Louisville's) is much higher than Louisville's even today: Ville went from $12.6m in 2010 to $16.3m in 2011. UConn was at $24.9 in 2011.

Ticket sales are the story for Louisville jumping so high. Back in 2006-07, Louisville got $15m in ticket sales and $13.1 in donations. That same year UConn got $13.5 in ticket sales and $12.1 in donations. The schools were practically even in total revenue, sponsorships, licensing, tickets and donations.

Ville, meanwhile, stayed at that level until football and basketball facilities expansion. It went from $15m in ticket sales to $26.4m in 2011, and from $12.1 in donations to $28.2m in donations. It literally jumped by $27m! In ticket sales and donations, it was almost $30 million ahead of UConn compared to where it was half a decade ago.

But in terms of sponsorships and TV rights and licensing, UConn has outdone Ville (but by a smaller margin). As Ville was building its ticket base, UConn was making up some of that $30m deficit by jumping out to a $9 million gain in terms of local TV, sponsorships and licensing. This is why the difference between the schools today (even about half a decade ago) is now $23m.

Lastly, I've said this a number of times on this board, but fans don't really know how these figures are calculated. Schools like Michigan raised money for facilities and then dumped the donations into AD revenues, while paying for facilities through school bonds. This means the private money raised for facilities is counted as athletics revenue. I don't know at all whether UConn has ever done this. I don't know that Louisville has either. But that huge donor jump may indeed be comprised in part of a trickle or a regular flow of facility donations. Who can say? UConn after all has also spent a huge amount on facilities (it has the best football training facilities of the entire old BE conference, and they are relatively brand new).

This is largely what the discussion here is about. UConn too could have plowed donations for facilities into athletics revenue. UConn spent $60 million on the Shenkman training center and Burton facility. If the private money had been dumped into sports, that would have made Uconn look better from a PR standpoint when it comes to sports. Furthermore, if Uconn had dumped its AD revenues into a single sport (as Ville currently does) it would also have been a PR coup.UConn does not count contributions under single sports, as Louisville does. That is purely a source of AD revenue, not bball revenue.
 
upstater said:
This is about a 50/50 post regarding the city (I strain to even call it that) of Louisville. Nothing to do with unflattering comments about UConn. No, I didn't get worked up about it--I can care less about hickville. I'm not the one that was grossly insulted by a post that said, I like Ville sports, jazz and a hotel, but the town entertainment is a strip mall where you can't get a taxi, and someone's blood boiled. Not mine. I'm not on your board either. I suggest you grow up and grow some thicker skin.
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Lol - " blood boiled". I suggested that you don't know what you're talking about (as did others) and that your comment about Louisville in a (now defunct) thread about Louisville's "#1 fan base" was as much about you being butt hurt about being bypassed for the ACC in favor of UofL as anything else.

You're so ambivalent about it, you've chased me down in a different thread to continue to say you don't care. You are a riot...
 
WestCoastHusky said:
You should be pissed that you live in Kentucky and you got your degree from UL :)

BTW, Ohio State president was spot on when talking about your school and the ACC.
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Got my degree at Centre College but, I do love living in Louisville.

BTW, OSU president was spot on when he didn't mention UConn at all...
 
upstater said:
Holy cow--a guy who thinks education isn't worth the investment. Why am I not surprised?
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Holy cow-- another rushed blind leap in logic from the board's leader in high volume posting. No one is surprised...
 
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