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Zarathustra said:
I check this out on the INTERNET and found this: a Sporting News article
posted 29 minutes ago. The title is HANNAH HILDALGO NOSE RING.
The writer references NCAA rule 1 Section 25 article 7 ( it speaks to
the issue of jewelry ) and Rule 2 Section 5 Article 1 . The writer reports that Hildalgo wore
the nose " diamond stud" all season. It was illegal all year.. but the
RULE 2 also states that the refs are to " inspect and approve all players
uniforms." Apparently from the article published today, NOTRE DAME's H.C.
N. Ivey was " warned" that this might be enforced. But the article
reports that she was still " surprised" at the incident. Hannah was OUT
of the game from the beginning of the second quarter until 5:51 on the
clock = four minutes and nine seconds. TALK ABOUT THE LUCK OF THE IRISH!!
As they say in STORRS: " What would CD say? . UCONN's Associate H.C. CD does not the rule
book to monitor her players! GO UCONN beat DUKE!
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For those interested see also USA TODAY (on line) by Nancy Armour and
for the NOTRE DAME viewpoint the FIGHTING IRISH WIRE.. Somehow
I sense N.D. and Hannah see the issue in a different light than some of us.
My understanding, from today's reading,
is that all teams were informed that "rules" would be enforced (?) when
the SWEET SIXTEEN began!!!??. Read the FIGHTING IRISH WIRE for N.D.'s
point of view and HANNAH's comments.
 
Okay, what if Hidalgo plays those extra 4 minutes? The way she shot today, that's probably 3 or 4 more missed shots. Maybe she forces a turnover or two. It's not like OSU ran away while she was out, or ND dominated when she was able to return. The biggest lead for OSU was 10 early in Q3, while she was on the floor.
 
BlueHen said:
I have no sympathy for ND, but I question the refs lettering her play a quarter with the nose ring. Why did the refs let her play a quarter before they decided to inspect and then not approve her? They should have had her remove it before tip off.
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See the articles where I refer to this: # 32 above. Apparently, Hannah asked if
she could "cover up" the jewelry and one of the REFS said "ok". It became
"NOT OK" at the end of the FIRST QUARTER. So, problems with the N.D.
organization, problems with enforcing rules during the season, and problems
with saying " OK " and then " take the jewelry out ". I assume that there is more
to come.
 
If H had the nose ring all year, why didn't we call her on it. Or is it on the refs to call it. What exactly is the rule she violated. You can have the long hair like Edwards, but not a little nose ring. Seems odd. can they wear pierced ears. Seems bad if that may have cost ND the game.
 
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the rule also says no headwear. So that Edwards has to be careful. And Paopao had headgear today against Indiana, no call on her. 'another SC player had some kind of headwear also. Is a facemask "headgear" also. Is there an exception for medically necessary, like we were mentioning some other teams player who wore a lacrosse helmet to protect from concussion?
 
Zarathustra said:
I check this out on the INTERNET and found this: a Sporting News article
posted 29 minutes ago. The title is HANNAH HILDALGO NOSE RING.
The writer references NCAA rule 1 Section 25 article 7 ( it speaks to
the issue of jewelry ) and Rule 2 Section 5 Article 1 . The writer reports that Hildalgo wore
the nose " diamond stud" all season. It was illegal all year.. but the
RULE 2 also states that the refs are to " inspect and approve all players
uniforms." Apparently from the article published today, NOTRE DAME's H.C.
N. Ivey was " warned" that this might be enforced. But the article
reports that she was still " surprised" at the incident. Hannah was OUT
of the game from the beginning of the second quarter until 5:51 on the
clock = four minutes and nine seconds. TALK ABOUT THE LUCK OF THE IRISH!!
As they say in STORRS: " What would CD say? . UCONN's Associate H.C. CD does not the rule
book to monitor her players! GO UCONN beat DUKE!
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Hannah claimed that one ref told her before the game that the nose ring was allowed. But another ref stopped the game & forced her to remove it.
Not sure who approved it & who had it removed. But good old Joe Vaszily was one of the refs! :(
 
Oregon State played horrible anyways when Hannah was out with the nose ring issue. I really think that had close to no impact on the game. I understand it hasn’t been an issue all season but players know from when they start playing in middle school you’re not allowed to have jewelry in. This isn’t a new rule. Sure a lot of times you can get away with it, especially with some tape. But this has always been a rule….

Why is the main headline about a nose ring every player knows you’re not supposed to have?? ND was in it the whole game…they could have won, too bad the nose ring caused them to lose though. HH said next season she’ll continue to wear it during games.
 
BlueHen said:
I have no sympathy for ND, but I question the refs lettering her play a quarter with the nose ring. Why did the refs let her play a quarter before they decided to inspect and then not approve her? They should have had her remove it before tip off.
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Likely they didn’t notice it at first.
 
Longtime fan said:
Oregon State was much better than I expected. ND played well with only six athletes ready. Hidalgo had a bad day ( first all year I imagine ). But give credit to defense as well.
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Hidalgo had a superb November, but since Thanksgiving she's shot under 30% for a game as often as over 50% (five each). In her five bad games, ND has lost twice, won two close games (1 in OT), and won one blowout.
 
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So, here’s the nose ring in question. It’s not a hoop or something that could get pulled out, injuring her, but a tiny piece of jewelry. I’m not seeing an issue with it, TBH

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HuskyNan said:
So, here’s the nose ring in question. It’s not a hoop or something that could get pulled out, injuring her, but a tiny piece of jewelry. I’m not seeing an issue with it, TBH

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It’s always been a rule. I don’t necessarily see a problem with it either. But as an athlete you know as soon you start playing in grade school (especially as a female) in any sport you can’t have jewelry. Sometimes you get away with it, sometimes you don’t.
 
Officials forced Hidalgo to leave the game and remove her nose ring. Apparently she’s had it all year but suddenly it’s a violation. I don’t know how painful that is but she looked uncomfortable when back in the game. It was just a stud can’t imagine why it was a big deal but if I was ND I would be pissed.
 
Can't stand ND but it's clear that ND got ripped off today. She openly wore it the first 2 games of the tournament. If they suddenly want to enforce this rule then let her know before the game so she can get it taken out without disrupting her team.
 
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Apparently, some coaches have the players cover the nose jewelry with a bandaid. ( I think Coach Yo said this.) So happy ND is out.

Also can’t listen to the announcers and studio talent on Stanford game. They are so biased. Go State!
 
Ralph said:
If H had the nose ring all year, why didn't we call her on it. Or is it on the refs to call it. What exactly is the rule she violated. You can have the long hair like Edwards, but not a little nose ring. Seems odd. can they wear pierced ears. Seems bad if that may have cost ND the game.
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That’s not why they lost! Oregon State simply played better. It’s not like they simply made up the rule on the spur of the moment. I would guess they just did not notice the ring at first. Hidalgo lost any sympathy I might have felt when she said she was going to wear it again next year. Just because you got away with something for awhile doesn’t mean the rule simply goes away! I used to commute 60 miles to work for a full year. I often went over the speed limit but was never caught. However, if I had been caught, I wouldn’t have expected the patrol to let me go because I had gotten away with it many times. Apparently Ivey was warned before the game the the rule might be enforced! Wouldn’t you think she would simply say, “let’s take it out now just in case”?
 
ALBANY, N.Y. – Hannah Hidalgo said it was “BS” she had to sit out for more than four minutes while her nose piercing was removed and said it disrupted her game.

Notre Dame’s All-America point guard has worn a diamond stud in the left side of her nose all season. “Head decorations, head wear, helmets, and jewelry are illegal,” according to NCAA rules, but it hadn’t been an issue until Friday’s Sweet 16 game against Oregon State.

Hidalgo said one of the officials told her during warm-ups that she would need to take it out. She asked if she could cover it instead and said she was told that would be fine. At the end of the first quarter, however, Hidalgo said she was told it had to be removed.

“I think it’s BS,” Hidalgo told USA TODAY Sports after Notre Dame's 70-65 loss. “They should have just let me play with it if that’s what they said.”

Hidalgo was 2 of 4 in the first quarter. She was 2 of 13 the rest of the way, and her 10 points and four field goals tied her season lows.

“It’s big,” Hildalgo said. “I’m on a run, I’m feeling good. To not (play) those five minutes and sit cold."
 
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HuskyNan said:
So, here’s the nose ring in question. It’s not a hoop or something that could get pulled out, injuring her, but a tiny piece of jewelry. I’m not seeing an issue with it, TBH

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The issues is that no jewelry is allowed. Has been a rule since I coached years ago. No less of a problem the the ear studs many like to wear. The rule is written the way it is so that it is not subjective. No ref has to decide what is ok and what is not. All are not. She is luckey she was not disqualified from the game. You get a warning then goodbye.

The real issue is why did the ND staff not stop this at the first game of the year. We had rules tests all the time. They had to know this and if chose to ignore it played an ineligible player all year. Where is the NCAA investigation. By the way covering something illegal is worse as it is an admission that you are trying to avoid a rule problem.
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Hidalgo's "nose ring" looks more like a stud to me. But even though it's small, and not likely to be caught or pulled, I can understand why there is a rule against having it -- and that would be safety. What if she was hit in the face/nose? What might have happened to AE if she was wearing a stud in her nose when she broke her nose this past time? We'll never know for sure, but it's very possible that her nose injury could have been worse/more complicated.

What I find astounding is that Hidalgo apparently played all season with it. Rules (most of them, anyway) are in place for a reason. Are there that many refs, coaches, and players that don't know the rules? I admit that I didn't know -- but it's not my job to know, either. Had this been caught earlier in the season, there wouldn't be a controversy now.

PS -- If enough people don't like a rule, they can/should change it. Until then, they should follow it.
 
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