Oregon St (7) @ Stanford (11) - 2/08/19

[jonson]

Plus she said some crap about Chelsea Gray a few years ago... in a rant talking about the lack of respect for the Pac-12 and what was so great about the ACC. Didnt sit well with me.

I'd add that when Oregon had a good team in the late 90s until about 2001 (and won or shared two Pac 12 titles before cratering for a decade+) Tara complained about the presence of Australian "mercenaries" on the team. (I think there were two; that was also the time when the most talented wbb high school players in the state were apparently a lot more aware than they have been recently and headed to Stanford rather than Tennessee.). Of course, Alana Smith, and doubtless others I can't remember, have changed that thinking in the years since.

 

[j66kicker]

Time heals all wounds or so the saying goes. I respect what @TheFarmFan said and found this article that worth a read for many of the older BYers who also hold this grudge.
GOOD TIMING BY TARA

Just like those Tenn fans who despise Geno, despite Geno and Pat making amends during her last years of coaching and him donating to her foundation. If he can forgive so can we. Just my humble opinion.

Great article. Got my blood pressure up all over again. I’m keeping my grudge for now. It’s just sports - it’s a sports grudge, not like true Tennessee hate.

 

[LoTrader]

Well that was an OSU Clanker of a game. I have no idea what that offensive scheme was, but 1 on 5 doesn't win too many games against a solid defensive team. OSU played as if they didn't belong on the same floor with Stanford. Indecision over and over again (traveling galore, getting shots blocked, couldn't hit the broadside of a barn on THE FARM). When your best player on the floor is Jo Grymek, it is going to be a long night. Congratulations to Stanford.

 

[jonson]

Well that was an OSU Clanker of a game. I have no idea what that offensive scheme was, but 1 on 5 doesn't win too many games against a solid defensive team. OSU played as if they didn't belong on the same floor with Stanford. Indecision over and over again (traveling galore, getting shots blocked, couldn't hit the broadside of a barn on THE FARM). When your best player on the floor is Jo Grymek, it is going to be a long night. Congratulations to Stanford.

Although I am far less familiar with OSU than you, I wondered about the offense as well. Do you think Rueck's plan was to have players go one on one against Stanford? And, if so, why did he go away from the game OSU typically plays? I say this because it seemed to me to lead to block after block on Stanford's part and didn't give OSU the open looks from 3 that they typically get. I realize Stanford's defense had something to say in both instances, but it seemed to me at least that the problem was more a matter of OSU not doing what they usually do. (I believe there were only 5 assists.). In any case, I think Cal will end up regretting this game as much as OSU.

 

[DefenseBB]

One of the things I truly appreciate is the presence of our PAC12 posters who do give us a perspective that frankly, we weren’t getting. @jonson and @j66kicker both reminded me of the Younger, highly competitive Tara who certainly made her views known, rightly or wrongly but she has mellowed and evolved and maybe if she’s did a mea culpa on some of her past actions, many on here might more fully embrace her as we do respect her coaching and her accomplishments. I too, have minor angst on her and am trying to let it go (ever so slowly). To me, Stanford absolutely, is in the top 8 discussion able to earn their way in. Maryland, NC St and Marquette, despite their lofty records haven’t beaten anyone noteworthy to warrant any Top 8 consideration despite the ignorance of the band of 32 voters.

 

[j66kicker]

One of the things I truly appreciate is the presence of our PAC12 posters who do give us a perspective that frankly, we weren’t getting. @jonson and @j66kicker both reminded me of the Younger, highly competitive Tara who certainly made her views known, rightly or wrongly but she’s has mellowed and evolved and maybe if she did a mea culpa on some of her past actions, many on here might more fully embrace her as we do respect her. I too, have minor angst on her and a man trying to let it go (ever so slowly). To me, Stanford absolutely, is in the top 8 discussion able to earn their way in. Maryland, NC St and Marquette, despite their lofty records haven’t beaten anyone noteworthy to warrant any Top 8 consideration despite the ignorance of the band of 32 voters.

A mea culpa would totally do it for me. I’m not expecting it though - especially after all this time - and that’s fine. I have no particular compulsion to stop disliking her

 

[LoTrader]

Although I am far less familiar with OSU than you, I wondered about the offense as well. Do you think Rueck's plan was to have players go one on one against Stanford? And, if so, why did he go away from the game OSU typically plays? I say this because it seemed to me to lead to block after block on Stanford's part and didn't give OSU the open looks from 3 that they typically get. I realize Stanford's defense had something to say in both instances, but it seemed to me at least that the problem was more a matter of OSU not doing what they usually do. (I believe there were only 5 assists.). In any case, I think Cal will end up regretting this game as much as OSU.

I think Rueck gambled. He started Aleah Goodman instead of Maddie Washington against a tall Stanford Team. I do think Rueck thought Destiny could break down Stanford and either score or dish. Didn't work, because Destiny picked up her dribble in the key, more often than not, instead of taking the pull up jumper. When that plan failed, then Pivec tried to do the same thing, and got the same result. Stanford looked like OSU (of past games) with their crisp passing and screening, resulting in open looks. Beavers will either grow from this abysmal performance, or, wilt. We'll know more Sunday.

 

[CompSci87]

I think Rueck gambled. He started Aleah Goodman instead of Maddie Washington against a tall Stanford Team. I do think Rueck thought Destiny could break down Stanford and either score or dish. Didn't work, because Destiny picked up her dribble in the key, more often than not, instead of taking the pull up jumper. When that plan failed, then Pivec tried to do the same thing, and got the same result. Stanford looked like OSU (of past games) with their crisp passing and screening, resulting in open looks. Beavers will either grow from this abysmal performance, or, wilt. We'll know more Sunday.

I listened to Stanford's post game press conference this morning. Tara's defensive game plan was to stay tight on their shooters and not help off of anyone. She said it was supposed to be like driveway basketball: stay on your player, one-on-one, and try to get stops.

That may be why OSU was doing what they did on offense: try to win those one-on-one battles, as there weren't open shooters to pass to.