Oregon (3) @ Stanford (4) - 2/24/20

[domerduck]

I think you are underestimating Maryland.

I actually think the whole Big 10 sucks and is always overseeded. They haven't performed above their seeding the last several years. Maryland is just one of many. We will se if they hold up their own.

 

[domerduck]

Sabrina had 12 of the 13 assists for Oregon in the game.
Sabrina had 9 made fg's
Sabrina assisted on, or scored on 21 of the 27 fg's the Ducks had. Thats over 75%.
Also, why did Moore only get 12 minutes?

And she assisted on several threes and three point plays and also set up the player who got fouled for 2 free throws. So my guess she accounted for 80% of the Duck's points. As for Moore I think it was a natch up issue as he wanted longer arms and a bigger threat for the three which limited her minutes.

 

[Centerstream]

Well the New York times (UConn's local newspaper) called the two Oregon schools the center of the WBB universe, or something like that:

The Best College Basketball Rivalry Right Now Is in Oregon (Published 2020)

Separated by less than 50 miles, Oregon and Oregon State have vastly different weapons in their chase for a Final Four. And with the Ducks star Sabrina Ionescu at the forefront, the fans have responded.

www.nytimes.com

That's fine but I usually don't go to the NY Times for my sports information. In fact...

 

[Plebe]

Tired of the ESPN coronation. I didn't know Oregon ducks are an endangered species, but they sure are protected, watch when the NCAA does the brackets, my guess will have the easiest route to the final 4.

With success comes attention. UConn has had it aplenty over the years. We had a chance to seize it this year as well, but lost 3 lopsided games, including to Oregon. Insert cliché about victor and spoils.

 

[saywho]

Stanford isnt going to end up in Fort Wayne. It'll likely be Louisville, UCONN, or Northwestern if Maryland is the 1. In recent history Maryland hasnt done well against the PAC but I suggest you watch some of their recent games. They're playing at a very high level with good athletes and suffocating defense. Theyre as hot as anyone right now. I'd bet on them over any PAC team besides Oregon and maybe Stanford.

Northwestern won't be against Maryland since they are both from the B1G. So, the will fudge seeds if needed to keep them separate. So, if Maryland is a 1 seed, it'd be against Louisville, UCONN, or Stanford. Northwestern is the only one they certainly will not face.

 

[jonson]

Good question. Perhaps Graves lost track of Moore. I watched the game and forgot about Moore as well. I remember reading that Moore averaged 37 minutes per game at USC last season.

Depending on the situation, Graves has generally played various combinations among Boley, Moore, Chavez, and Shelley, with the flexibility involved being a key to the team's success (ability to adapt). Sometimes one of the last two replaces Boley for defensive purposes or if Boley's shot is off; sometimes Chavez or Shelley replaces Moore for the reasons already noted in this thread. And at times--as in this game--both have been on the court in place of the two starters. (Boley and Moore average around 24 minutes/game; Chavez about 20; and Shelley about 18.) In this game, the breakdown was 30 (Boley), 12 (Moore), 29 (Chavez), and 25 (Shelley). And, if remember correctly, Oregon was most effective yesterday with both Chavez and Shelley on the court, and not for the first time this season. In other games, however, Moore's play has been absolutely crucial and the team certainly wouldn't be where it is without her.

 

[bballnut90]

Northwestern won't be against Maryland since they are both from the B1G. So, the will fudge seeds if needed to keep them separate. So, if Maryland is a 1 seed, it'd be against Louisville, UCONN, or Stanford. Northwestern is the only one they certainly will not face.

Good point. I do think that if both Maryland and NW make the Big Ten title game, the winner gets Fort Wayne, likely as a 1 (or as the top 2), and the loser is a 2 shipped elsewhere. If both teams fall, UCONN likely moves ahead.

Louisville likely needs to win out to finish ahead of UCONN. The question to me is, even with a loss, will the committee find a way to put Louisville in Fort Wayne due to their location and likelihood of drawing a crowd? The committee historically gives precedent to home teams regardless if they're more deserving than a different team of the same seed. Case in point, in 2018 Mississippi State was the #2 overall team and got sent to KC, a 10 hour drive, instead of Lexington which was closer. Louisville obviously got Lexington because of their proximity. There are many other instances of this as well. Whether or not the committee considers Fort Wayne close enough to Louisville (3.5 hours) to verify that type treatment remains to be seen.

 

[npignatjr]

Well the New York times (UConn's local newspaper) called the two Oregon schools the center of the WBB universe, or something like that:

The Best College Basketball Rivalry Right Now Is in Oregon (Published 2020)

Separated by less than 50 miles, Oregon and Oregon State have vastly different weapons in their chase for a Final Four. And with the Ducks star Sabrina Ionescu at the forefront, the fans have responded.

www.nytimes.com

Hartford has a newspaper, that is UConn's local paper. Calling Oregon the center of the WCBB universe is like calling a shooting star the sun.

 

[triaddukefan]

Part one Accomplished, Stanford lost, eliminating them from a #1 Seed. Now if they can lose this weekend when they play the Arizona Schools. If they were to lose and UConn take care of business, UConn might jump them to get a better #2 Seeding. I don't see Stanford winning the PAC 12 Post Season tournament, so they could end the season with five losses. Four losses is the most likely scenario.

So basically you want Connecticut to back into a high seed?

 

[donalddoowop]

Tired of the ESPN coronation. I didn't know Oregon ducks are an endangered species, but they sure are protected, watch when the NCAA does the brackets, my guess will have the easiest route to the final 4.

Well, I guess you know if they are given the top #1 seed, they get the easiest route to the Final Four. They would have earned it. It's happened to other schools.

 

[jonson]

Some interesting statistics:

The Stanford/Oregon game drew 376K viewers; two games on NBA TV drew 185K and 163K; a West Virginia/Texas men's game on ESPNU 232K.

 

[npignatjr]

Well, I guess you know if they are given the top #1 seed, they get the easiest route to the Final Four. They would have earned it. It's happened to other schools.

Right now they are ranked 3rd, my thought would be they still get easiest route to the FF.

 

[Ozimoto]

This will all get washed out in the conference tournaments.

 

[donalddoowop]

Right now they are ranked 3rd, my thought would be they still get easiest route to the FF.

If that happens, it would not be fair to the team that earned it, imo.

 

[TheFarmFan]

Some interesting statistics:

The Stanford/Oregon game drew 376K viewers

I bet that audience would have been 50% higher if Stanford could have managed to make the game competitive from the start rather than only by the 4th quarter when most non-WCBB presumably had already turned off. From the 8-7 break on, it was a dismantling for most of the next two quarters. It drives me crazy how we always play so poorly in big ESPN-televised games.

 

[WestCoast]

It drives me crazy how we always play so poorly in big ESPN-televised games.

Youth.

It drives me crazy how we always play so poorly in big ESPN-televised games.

Youth will do that. Stanford started two sophs, two juniors, and Fingall, its lone senior this season who has contributed significantly. Sprinkle in three freshmen off the bench and that is what happens sometimes. Stanford fans hope for and expect more, but without a healthy Carrington and Jones this year's edition will be prone to "consistent inconsistency" that will keep you both engaged and frustrated for as long the team lasts in its final two tourneys of the season. With Tara at the helm, at least you know you have a puncher's chance.

 

[NWHoopFan2]

If it were just this game, I'd agree with you, and I was pretty happy that in the end we only lost by 8. But this has been a year in, year out pattern. Our 30 point drubbing in Eugene, our 40 point lost at home last year to Oregon, and two of our 20-point losses to UConn have all been on ESPN/2, whereas many of our best wins in recent years (two over Baylor, our PAC-12 championship game win over Oregon last season, our upset at Oregon two years ago) have been relegated to the PAC-12 Network. I just feel like we don't tend to rise to the moment when there's the potential for a national audience.

I believe last year’s PAC-12 Tournament final was on ESPN or ESPN2.

 

[Floridaduck]

Youth will do that

Hey if a "young" team can play as well as Stanford has this year (#4 AP), maybe there is hope for Oregon next year after losing 4 starters. I would be pleased to have such a record in those circumstances (plus injuries).

The Cardinal has to be the odds on fave for the Pac12 title next season.

 

[npignatjr]

If that happens, it would not be fair to the team that earned it, imo.

year in and year out the NCAA and ESPN push teams and make questionable bracket moves.