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OklahomaUconn said:
Am i doing something wrong? Im postings stats and generating some discussion albeit lopsided for some miraculous reason...im not breaking any rules...btw noone has posted facts that state otherwise besides david.
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Omar isn't here to pass. He didn't have a reliable handle as a freshman so it's not like the ball was in his hands to create offense for others. He was hobbled all year with his hips and his wrist. Other teams had their hands full with Boat and Bazz... Omar was not the guard opposing teams were worried about, so he was left open, and he shot.

There's a difference between generating discussion and being a troll. You're trolling.
Are you honestly this immature and bored? Grow up.
 
You are a idiot who has clearly never played the game and I guess doesn't wT h it either since u seem to get your info by looking at "stats". OC rarely played the 2 and was in to score as we had Ryan and jazz to distribute. I guess your analysis would determine that babe Ruth was a horrible player due to his high number of strike outs. Mickey mantle too. You are a moron
 
OklahomaUconn said:
Am i doing something wrong? Im postings stats and generating some discussion albeit lopsided for some miraculous reason...im not breaking any rules...btw noone has posted facts that state otherwise besides david.
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Here is a fact assists (or lack thereof) have zero to do with being selfish or not. That alone is an asinine comment. If you want to say he's bad at getting assists, sure, but selfish is nowhere captured in your stats or "facts."

Rakin Rondo is a perfect example, great assist numbers, selfish as he'll because he plays for the assist not to make the team better.

Everything (or most of it) Calhoun did in games was to help the team. He rarely overshot the ball or forced offense. If you had watched the games you could tell he was playing within Ollie's system.
 
I feel like we're dealing with a split personality here, with both personalities see-sawing into and out of control.
 
caw said:
Here is a fact assists (or lack thereof) have zero to do with being selfish or not. That alone is an asinine comment. If you want to say he's bad at getting assists, sure, but selfish is nowhere captured in your stats or "facts."

Rakin Rondo is a perfect example, great assist numbers, selfish as he'll because he plays for the assist not to make the team better.

Everything (or most of it) Calhoun did in games was to help the team. He rarely overshot the ball or forced offense. If you had watched the games you could tell he was playing within Ollie's system.
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I watched every game last year and 95 +/- % of every game since chris smith. He did force shots attributing to his shooting % maybe its because hes a freshman.
 
i really thought this post was going to be about that play tonight where he had daniels WIDE OPEN on the break for an oop, long enough where even i was able to recognize it and say it to my friend, and he just put his head down and tried to bull rush through the lane and turned it over.
 
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Husky1 said:
You are a idiot who has clearly never played the game and I guess doesn't wT h it either since u seem to get your info by looking at "stats". OC rarely played the 2 and was in to score as we had Ryan and jazz to distribute. I guess your analysis would determine that babe Ruth was a horrible player due to his high number of strike outs. Mickey mantle too. You are a moron
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Babe was the best player in history...dead ball era ..larger ball parks...if he had the same amount of at bats as hank aaron he would have had 1000 or so home runs in said dead ball, large park era and he didnt strike out that much... His strikeouts r on par with one of the best hitters like ichiro...the babe had a 342 average in his career
 
Okla...you can't be serious with this thread can you? Or any of the so called evidence you are using to support it? How many years of basketball have you watched? Seriously this thread makes you look so basketball ignorant. You're using an assist per game stat as your evidence for selfishness? What about Tyler Olander? Why isn't he selfish? O because his position doesn't involve dishing or creating for others? No kidding. Same reason OC doesn't have a high APG. He is not a creator. It has nothing to do whatsoever with him being selfish. Right now he is a 2 guard maybe stretch 3, who shoots well plays decent defense and runs the floor well. He is learning to create his own shot which he got better at towards the end of the year but he is not a PG. Or a slashing 2 or 3. Big deal. That is not evidence for him being selfish. There are many and I repeat many one dimensional guards or SF that go there entire careers as spot up shooters and good defenders. Hell some even make it to the pro's if they are really proficient in those categories. Doesn't mean they are selfish. OC has two exceptional distributors and ball dominant guards in his line-up with him. He doesn't need to create. SN and RB have already attacked the lane and collapsed the defense, why receive the kick-pass and try to do the same. He is there to shoot. Which he does really well if you were paying attention last year. Like a previous poster stated check the stats minus the wrist injury games. Hell you shouldn't even have to if you watched the games and saw this kid get better and better throughout the year. Seriously wtf are you looking to do with this thread. piss a bunch of people off? Ragging on a guy who played through injury, stuck out a commitment to an ineligible team and has worked his tail off because his APG is low some inconsequential stat for a guy at his position......If you really think like this here's a big kick in the pants for your hopes....He's not averaging over 2.5 APG this year either. BUT who gives a flying fook........
 
kcc1442 said:
Okla...you can't be serious with this thread can you? Or any of the so called evidence you are using to support it? How many years of basketball have you watched? Seriously this thread makes you look so basketball ignorant. You're using an assist per game stat as your evidence for selfishness? What about Tyler Olander? Why isn't he selfish? O because his position doesn't involve dishing or creating for others? No kidding. Same reason OC doesn't have a high APG. He is not a creator. It has nothing to do whatsoever with him being selfish. Right now he is a 2 guard maybe stretch 3, who shoots well plays decent defense and runs the floor well. He is learning to create his own shot which he got better at towards the end of the year but he is not a PG. Or a slashing 2 or 3. Big deal. That is not evidence for him being selfish. There are many and I repeat many one dimensional guards or SF that go there entire careers as spot up shooters and good defenders. Hell some even make it to the pro's if they are really proficient in those categories. Doesn't mean they are selfish. OC has two exceptional distributors and ball dominant guards in his line-up with him. He doesn't need to create. SN and RB have already attacked the lane and collapsed the defense, why receive the kick-pass and try to do the same. He is there to shoot. Which he does really well if you were paying attention last year. Like a previous poster stated check the stats minus the wrist injury games. Hell you shouldn't even have to if you watched the games and saw this kid get better and better throughout the year. Seriously wtf are you looking to do with this thread. piss a bunch of people off? Ragging on a guy who played through injury, stuck out a commitment to an ineligible team and has worked his tail off because his APG is low some inconsequential stat for a guy at his position......If you really think like this here's a big kick in the pants for your hopes....He's not averaging over 2.5 APG this year either. BUT who gives a flying fook........
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Few people have said that his position means he doesnt need or have opportunities to get assists. Well how did memphis get 3 different guards with 100+ assists each?
 
^^^^^^^What he said. I don't think you understand the dynamics of team basketball very well, Oklahoma.
 
OklahomaUconn said:
Few people have said that his position means he doesnt need or have opportunities to get assists. Well how did memphis get 3 different guards with 100+ assists each?
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Why are you looking at memphis like their style of play or team make-up is the empirical high and mighty standard of greatness? Some teams play with a 3 guard starting line-ups and 2 PF, Some line-ups play with a C and 2 F and 2 G, Some lineups Play with 4 Guards and a C, some-lineups play with 1 C 1 F and 3 Guards. Some teams have no depth. Some teams have lots of depth at the Guard spot some teams have veteran ball handlers who stay out of foul trouble. Some don't and need their forwards to create more off the dribble. Some teams play from inside out and their big men get a bulk of the assists. Some teams are purely run and gun teams and their assists are spread amongst everyone on the team that has the capability to get out and run the break. Some teams run the pick and roll and main PG gets the majority of the assists. Should I continue?
 
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Some teams run a lot of ISO offense and don't have a lot of assists, others run a more free flowing motion offense which spreads the assist around, some teams.........oh wait i was suppose to stop.......................If I look at our team and what each players strengths are and the assets the bring to the team, I am keeping the ball in RB and SN hands and having them create for our outside shooters whether that be NG OC or DD........At times I'll let DD just tear apart his defender, and same with SN and sometimes RB (although I prefer his Offense to come out of the break, he gets a little out of control still in the half court set).......I like OC coming off screens playing the RA or JL role......
 
kcc1442 said:
Some teams run a lot of ISO offense and don't have a lot of assists, others run a more free flowing motion offense which spreads the assist around, some teams.........oh wait i was suppose to stop.......................If I look at our team and what each players strengths are and the assets the bring to the team, I am keeping the ball in RB and SN hands and having them create for our outside shooters whether that be NG OC or DD........At times I'll let DD just tear apart his defender, and same with SN and sometimes RB (although I prefer his Offense to come out of the break, he gets a little out of control still in the half court set).......I like OC coming off screens playing the RA or JL role......
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Thank you for adding an intelligent rebuttal, it is how forums should work. A collection of intellectual conversation rather than "troll" "your stupid"
 
This is so *king dumb. I hate when people post shit when they dont know anything about basketball/have clearly never played before. Omar was our 3 last year. Boat and Shabazz are point guards their job is to distribute the basketball when they arent scoring. Omars job is not to create for others its to score the damn ball thats what he was recruited to do. When omar calhoun committed to uconn I don't think anybody was excited about the passing aspect of his game he could bring to this team. We were all pumped because hes a SHOOTING guard who can SCORE the ball.
 
OklahomaUconn said:
So i was watching the video of the espn power rankings of memphis. The guy mentioned how 3 guards on that team had over 100 assists. I said well we got 3 good guards lets see what we had. Boatright 131, shabazz 129, Omar 37 or 1.3 per game.

Omar : GUARD ------ 1.3 apg/32 mpg
Olander : CENTER ---1.1 apg/in just 21 mpg.
I know he was a freshman but still ..for a guard thats selfish and for a center like olander to do better in this category is pretty bad.
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Omar is a SHOOTING guard who primarily played the 3 all season because Boat and Bazz, 2 POINT guards were always on the floor. You are far more FOOLISH than Omar is SELFISH. You don't understand his role in the offense or how to make friends and influence people.
 
Dmike said:
You don't understand his role in the offense or how to make friends and influence people.
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Do not be contrite. For no one is wrong and no one is right. Not the person to your left or the person to your right. Especially not the person with a mirror in sight. ~ OklahomaUconn
 
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OklahomaUconn said:
So i was watching the video of the espn power rankings of memphis. The guy mentioned how 3 guards on that team had over 100 assists. I said well we got 3 good guards lets see what we had. Boatright 131, shabazz 129, Omar 37 or 1.3 per game.

Omar : GUARD ------ 1.3 apg/32 mpg
Olander : CENTER ---1.1 apg/in just 21 mpg.

I know he was a freshman but still ..for a guard thats selfish and for a center like olander to do better in this category is pretty bad.
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And we are off and running. I predict a 100 message count for this bad boy thread.
 
Okie is an attention hound, making a stupid and wrong interpretation of a single stat that he thinks is insightful, then laps up all the attention he generates by people thinking he can be reasoned with.

The funniest part about this whole thread is that for Okie, it's all about him........ and he calls Omar selfish.

"Thank you for your interest in UConn Basketball"
 
mins. assists rebounds turnover points
memphis 88.7 11.5 11.7 7.4 34.4
UCONN 105 10.3 11.2 7.3 43.6

These are the stats for the 3 guards on each team. I'll still take our 3
 
As they would say in the old country, this guy is a "stunod". Definitely one of my favorite words and very fitting here.
 
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OklahomaUconn said:
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im glad that ive made such an impression. I come posting facts, you come all heated who keeps typing the word troll. Btw what have you contributed to this board...i suggest u do some fact checking (omars stats and my previous threads) then come back with an apology. Thank you come again.
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Look, you don't deserve an apology. You are a jack@ss.

You made a blanket perjorative statement in the subject line of your post. Quite likely your sole intent was to get a rise out of people. That is the very definition of trolling. You either know this and are playing out your string, or you really do possess the stupidity that others have assigned to you. In either case you are still a jack@ss.

You didn't come with facts plural, you came with a single fact/statistic, one that in this case, doesn't even prove your initial claim (lies, damn lies....). Multiple posters have pointed this out with solid logic and reason. You need to stop fooling yourself. You aren't some sort of brilliant raconteur who provokes serious discussions about timely subjects. You're still just a jack@ass.
 
Imagine if everyone passes and no one shoots....this is so stupid.

Anyone have sny idea as to the time of possession for boat and buzz? I bet it would over 80%.
 
yea, i thought this thread was gonna be that Omar had said something dumb after the game, in an interview... i'm kinda glad that it just turned out to be a dumb observation.. i want Omar to be selfish and shoot 3s. could care less how many assists he has
 
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