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1- this guy is a freaking tool. 2- UConn won’t be giving up any money at this point (most likely) so no they were not “warned”. NCAA has backed UConn on this and he lied to them. No way he recieves any money.
 
UChusky916 said:
Whether he did or he didn't that is irrelevant. Calhoun did not have verbiage in his contract to maintain NCAA compliance related to violations. KO did, and he got canned.
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Wait. We didn't think that Calhoun should maintain NCAA compliance even if it wasn't spelled out? My take is simple. Calhoun had the championships, was beloved and no one was going to challenge him about anything. UCONN tried to skate on KO's contract when they saw the chance after his non performance. They used the minor rule breaking. It was a violation technically. Bad look for the school, terrible look for KO now with this racial thing.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
The good news is UConn is clearly going to keep the 10MM at this point. Kudos to AD Dave for sticking to his guns.
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Yes, kudos to Dave for getting swindled into allowing that buyout into the final contract. If UConn gets a favorable outcome, it’s in spite of his conduct, not because of it.

Besides, without the cash at hand, what option is there besides sticking to one’s guns?
 
UConnRock said:
This is so counter to the persona that Ollie tried sell to everybody. Was it all fake or did the divorce, struggling as a coach, and eventual firing sap him of that innate desire to overcome obstacles and look for the next opportunity to succeed both personally and professionally?

This discrimination card is the ultimate escalator.
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No the lack of any settlement offer is what "escalated this".
 
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Walker11 said:
Obviously Calhoun's issues were worse and his penalty was less. Winning matters.
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That's what it comes down to. If you suck at the main function of your job (for those unable to keep up: a basketball coach is hired to win games), your employer will do everything in their power to terminate you. If you are awesome at your job, they will usually let other things slide, even if those things violate your contract/terms of employment. I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand.
 
RoderickSpode said:
That's what it comes down to. If you suck at the main function of your job (for those unable to keep up: a basketball coach is hired to win games), your employer will do everything in their power to terminate you. If you are awesome at your job, they will usually let other things slide, even if those things violate your contract/terms of employment. I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand.
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But then you MUST understand the other edge of that blade. Which is if you are fired for performance (and not cause) you GET the remainder of the contract.

So by your reasoning if it is OK for UConn to go scorched earth to fire a bad coach, its OK for KO to go scorched earth to play the race card.

Right?
 
August_West said:
But then you MUST understand the other edge of that blade. Which is if you are fired for performance (and not cause) you GET the remainder of the contract.

So by your reasoning if it is OK for UConn to go scorched earth to fire a bad coach, its OK for KO to go scorched earth to play the race card.

Right?
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I agree. If this was the reason he got fired he deserves his money. But he lied to the NCAA which justifies not paying him. However, the should settle for like 4 million
 
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the #Undefeated tried to spin this as a racial issue a month or two ago. Part two will surely be hitting newspaper stands soon. smh.
 
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August_West said:
But then you MUST understand the other edge of that blade. Which is if you are fired for performance (and not cause) you GET the remainder of the contract.

So by your reasoning if it is OK for UConn to go scorched earth to fire a bad coach, its OK for KO to go scorched earth to play the race card.

Right?
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I'm not a lawyer and I don't pretend to understand the ins and outs of KO's contract. Ultimately though, if he did violate his contract (including rules violations, however small) then he can be fired for cause. Someone mentioned it earlier, but my understanding is that KO's contract was written much more strictly than JC's with regard to NCAA compliance. No one forced him to sign it.
 
August_West said:
But then you MUST understand the other edge of that blade. Which is if you are fired for performance (and not cause) you GET the remainder of the contract.

So by your reasoning if it is OK for UConn to go scorched earth to fire a bad coach, its OK for KO to go scorched earth to play the race card.

Right?
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But he was fired for cause
 
August_West said:
But then you MUST understand the other edge of that blade. Which is if you are fired for performance (and not cause) you GET the remainder of the contract.

So by your reasoning if it is OK for UConn to go scorched earth to fire a bad coach, its OK for KO to go scorched earth to play the race card.

Right?
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I think KO should have been paid. I don't know how much both sides would have settled for. Firing him for cause was a desperate move made by a broke university. And now, claiming racial discrimination is a desperate move by a not-rich-as-imagined guy.
 
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Madmannsucks said:
No the lack of any settlement offer is what "escalated this".
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Politely disagree. KO's legal team made it hard from the beginning for the school to ever think about settling. He always wanted a lot bigger number than he what he was due, given that the amount he was contractually due was zero. He violated the terms of his contract, pure and simple. The Calhoun contract is just a shiny object distraction. He didn't burn the bridge, he nuked it, and once you go there, you cant expect the school to roll out the checkbook. He simply has no one to blame but himself. He cheated and didn't win, those two things usually wont keep you employed as a $3m a year basketball coach.
 
There was a time that I hoped a compromise settlement would be reached. Now I hope Ollie gets NOTHING. This lawsuit is a pathetic attempt to squeeze some money out of the University because Ollie knows he has no legitimate basis to be paid.

By the way, the fact that UConn hired TWO black assistant coaches AFTER Ollie was fired should help show that race had nothing to do with UConn's hiring and firing decisions.
 
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This is not going to end well for UCONN, KO and DB. KO's name was dragged through the mud the last 2 yrs. He has nothing to lose at this point. $10 million is alot of money not to be fighting for. I belive KO can file a civil suit if it pertains to discrimination later on. This can drag on for yrs. SH should settle with KO's team now to end all the distractions.
 
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WallStreetHusky said:
Politely disagree. KO's legal team made it hard from the beginning for the school to ever think about settling. He always wanted a lot bigger number than he what he was due, given that the amount he was contractually due was zero. He violated the terms of his contract, pure and simple. The Calhoun contract is just a shiny object distraction. He didn't burn the bridge, he nuked it, and once you go there, you cant expect the school to roll out the checkbook. He simply has no one to blame but himself. He cheated and didn't win, those two things usually wont keep you employed as a $3m a year basketball coach.
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First off, I respect you response. 2nd, They (KO's lawyers)threw out a number....the school never responded, never countered, never tried to negotiate. I think it is pretty easy to show he was treated differently than his white predecessor who had many and in some cases more serious violations. It is not like JC's contract allowed him to break rules repeatedly. I wish they settled, which in my opinion is the right thing to do. Even if Uconn wins, how much do you think this whole thing is going to cost him.
On a side note, I see here as well as on FB all the comments about "the race card"....troubling for me that a bunch of white people referring to it as that. That in my opinion is exactly why there actually is a race card. (not referring to you or your post btw).
 
Madmannsucks said:
First off, I respect you response. 2nd, They (KO's lawyers)threw out a number....the school never responded, never countered, never tried to negotiate. I think it is pretty easy to show he was treated differently than his white predecessor who had many and in some cases more serious violations. It is not like JC's contract allowed him to break rules repeatedly. I wish they settled, which in my opinion is the right thing to do. Even if Uconn wins, how much do you think this whole thing is going to cost him.
On a side note, I see here as well as on FB all the comments about "the race card"....troubling for me that a bunch of white people referring to it as that. That in my opinion is exactly why there actually is a race card. (not referring to you or your post btw).
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Was the number that they threw out there not the full amount? Lol
 
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