I would say this post is a grand salami homer with 2 outs in the bottom of the ninth with the score pre home run 4-1. A nice walk off 5-4 win/post from a MB Hall of famer himself! Professor Fleud!
OT: Dog training question???????
Treats or NO treats when training a dog?
Depends on your intentions.
Definitely positive reinforcement over negative reinforcement. I know you weren't offering this choice. Just wanted to emphasize it.
Animals will respond much quicker if their stomach is satisfied then with verbal or petting reinforcement. But this quickness to get the animal to do tricks or follow our lead has an important negative - the animal is subverting its behavior to our will.
I'm sure it's on every dogs bucket list to roll over, play dead, beg, or offer its paw for approval. Right. This is what pleases us but its not necessarily what they are about. Certainly a puppy needs guidance, but the best thing to do imo, would be observe them and let them observe us before more intricate training takes place. And it becomes harder for them to observe us when they are focusing on a treat.
It certainly takes longer to train animals without giving them treats, so if time is important then that option can't be tried. But if time is irrelevant a greater understanding of one another takes place when the treats are not the focus of the relationship.
Now our wives are a different story. Maybe in the beginning there is a similarity. But unlike our best friends whose relationship is established over our lifetimes once things are established, the longer a man is married the greater the need to give the woman treats to get them to roll over.............