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Wonder if these guys can beat Columbia on Wednesday. If not, chill should be interim by Thursday morning.
NOT CHILL

His pedigree with Nike and the potential problems that might be in his closet is a no go.

I want Ollie to succeed even if I think what he did to Miller was horrible and the fallout so pronounced....3 transfers and loss of MAL

But if he losses the team during the season with another performance like this........I will be on the bandwagon

The season is early.......hopefully they will learn and improve and play to their highest level of ability

I know Ollie created the mess....but it does not look like this team has any NBA ready players
 
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I really doubt the administration would trust Chill enough to put him in charge as interim, unless they were desperate.
 
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In basketball? No way. The northeast is primo recruiting territory for hoops. Football, sure, they are in better places.

Dunno about that. The state of Ohio produces a lot of hoopsters (plus Cincy is near Indiana, Michigan and Western PA). And the state of Florida seems to produce a lot of players in the present (Florida Gators, Miami and FSU) all seem to do pretty good. So I wouldn't be so sure that they - Cincy & UCF - aren't in fertile recruiting grounds for basketball as well as football.
 

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Outside of Chill which seems to be slotted as a recruiting specialist based on his resume (which I believe every top tier program always needs), has anyone considered the fact that our staff is really actually made up of 3 Kevin Ollie's in a way? We have so much invested in the "keep coaching in the JC family" that we kind of seem to be glossing over the fact that three quarters of our staff are essentially first time coaches at the D1 collegiate level, and this isn't some low/mid-major starter gig, this is the big leagues. The progressive loss and replacement of guys like Hobbs and especially Miller seem to have had affect on the court preparation moreso than the off court duties like recruiting which was I believe the focus of the staff changes in the first place.

Our offense under Ollie post-2014 has always been anemic in a way, and even still at times under Shabazz was so as well but that crew had the perfect cast to make the system/vision become a reality (namely an all-time great collegiate guard in his final encore). But this year man... even in the games against the cupcakes where the score technically states we won the game were ugly to watch, moreso than in the past, and I think we as a fan base may have overlooked the value guys like Miller brought our team in that regard, I know I personally overlooked GM's contributions looking back on it now. Even our defense which has always been our core philosophy, what always gave UConn Men's Basketball their signature edge and always kept us in any game despite the advertised disparities in offensive star power as of late has been MIA.
 
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I've said this the past few years. Ollie is not good at developing his players. There is no growth. There is no basic basketball knowledge other than dribble, cut, stop when you're too far under the basket and then chucking the ball out for a forced three. That is all I see game after game after game. I have not seen one "big" develop into a force down low. I know we're a guard heavy team - but they look panicked to me most days. Then when the camera cuts to the bench and I see Ollie's pained and confused expression (yet again) I find it hard not to switch the channel.
 
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Especially when the already downward trajectory over the past three seasons continues to trend red despite clearly being on a warm seat. The problems we are seeing on the court, and many have been clamoring about for some time now, typically don't clear up with the snap of a finger and there really isn't a realistic timetable left for heroics from the staff.

There's been a pretty consistent level of dysfunction around the program over the last few years. Hard to imagine that all goes away and Ollie & the staff manage to turn it around.
 
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I'm not on. I'm not off. The big test will come soon at MSG. If attacking the Cuse zone consists of 40 minutes of our guards cluelessly tossing the ball around the perimeter for 25 seconds only to either start a desperation dribble drive into the paint or to clang a 3-pointer off the rim, I'm going to have a hard time staying on.
 

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I've said this the past few years. Ollie is not good at developing his players. There is no growth. There is no basic basketball knowledge other than dribble, cut, stop when you're too far under the basket and then chucking the ball out for a forced three. That is all I see game after game after game. I have not seen one "big" develop into a force down low. I know we're a guard heavy team - but they look panicked to me most days. Then when the camera cuts to the bench and I see Ollie's pained and confused expression (yet again) I find it hard not to switch the channel.
That face you are referring to can be summed up as "what is this? I swear we ran this play for AI back in Philly" nevermind the fact that the 6ers never actually won anything with that philosophy.
 

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It is literally hilarious that you think are helping Ollie's case by harping on his inability to motivate his players.

They're not toddlers like you are - they should be intrinsically motivated to do at least the bare minimum, which they didn't.

You folks are deranged.
 

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NOT CHILL

His pedigree with Nike and the potential problems that might be in his closet is a no go.

I want Ollie to succeed even if I think what he did to Miller was horrible and the fallout so pronounced....3 transfers and loss of MAL

But if he losses the team during the season with another performance like this...I will be on the bandwagon

The season is early..hopefully they will learn and improve and play to their highest level of ability

I know Ollie created the mess....but it does not look like this team has any NBA ready players

What Ollie did to Miller???

Are you kidding me?
 

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Wow @BUConn10 I didn't know we were DK's first full-time D1 job. You might want to email UConn Athletics and tell them that their website has incorrect information.
 
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Outside of Chill which seems to be slotted as a recruiting specialist based on his resume (which I believe every top tier program always needs), has anyone considered the fact that our staff is really actually made up of 3 Kevin Ollie's in a way? We have so much invested in the "keep coaching in the JC family" that we kind of seem to be glossing over the fact that three quarters of our staff are essentially first time coaches at the D1 collegiate level, and this isn't some low/mid-major starter gig, this is the big leagues. The progressive loss and replacement of guys like Hobbs and especially Miller seem to have had affect on the court preparation moreso than the off court duties like recruiting which was I believe the focus of the staff changes in the first place.

Our offense under Ollie post-2014 has always been anemic in a way, and even still at times under Shabazz was so as well but that crew had the perfect cast to make the system/vision become a reality (namely an all-time great collegiate guard in his final encore). But this year man... even in the games against the cupcakes where the score technically states we won the game were ugly to watch, moreso than in the past, and I think we as a fan base may have overlooked the value guys like Miller brought our team in that regard, I know I personally overlooked GM's contributions looking back on it now. Even our defense which has always been our core philosophy, what always gave UConn Men's Basketball their signature edge and always kept us in any game despite the advertised disparities in offensive star power as of late has been MIA.
Man I was so hard on Miller. Called for his head for about a year or so due to the lack of development of bigs. Wasn't until after his firing that I became aware he was the man behind the gameplans for our 2014 run. Also had no clue he was offering up alternatives to Ollie and this putrid "offense" to which Ollie scoffed at and chose to run his own.
 

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They're not toddlers like you are - they should be intrinsically motivated to do at least the bare minimum, which they didn't.

All players in all sports at every level need some sort external motivation for top performance. Good coaches find a way.
 

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All players in all sports at every level need some sort external motivation for top performance. Good coaches find a way.

It's not a 100-0% split in terms of who is responsible for motivating. Players need to give something on their own regardless of their coach.
 
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If attacking the Cuse zone consists of 40 minutes of our guards cluelessly tossing the ball around the perimeter for 25 seconds only to either start a desperation dribble drive into the paint or to clang a 3-pointer off the rim
Maybe we'll see a complete revamp of the offense in the next two weeks. And pigs flying. And world peace while we're at it.
 
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But Ern, (pick one or more if you like)
A . Calhoun personally chose him as his successor.
B. He won a championship
C. He was a coach on the floor in the NBA
D. He bleeds UConn Blue
E. Calhoun personally chose him as his successor.
 
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Are we recruiting overrated kids that other coaches see as overrated? Just a thought. I mean, we look very very very thin out there and can't shoot at all (Other than TL). Cobb could help.
 

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Are we recruiting overrated kids that other coaches see as overrated? Just a thought. I mean, we look very very very thin out there and can't shoot at all (Other than TL). Cobb could help.
No.
 

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