Ohtani gets 700M

[Deepster]

Listened to a really good podcast on a walk today, will try to link it, about the contract. Allow me some leeway on the details, but....

a) Of the 700m, the Angels will have to actually account for 440m and the interest will carry that to 700m.
b) They don't have to defer any money for 26 months. So they don't have to reach into their own wallet until July 2026.
c) Between now and July 2026, they think the Dodgers can recover ALL of what they need to cover that 440m nut with the TV and merchandising deals.

In essence, they're on a 2 year marketing junket where experts feel they'll start July 2026 at a net-net 0 balance and (assuming nothing is renegotiated or changes) any additional actions they can make to profit off his likeness will go in their pockets for the rest of the contract. And the deferred deal, as mentioned, helps Ohtani escape all CA taxes.

I'm no expert, but as a Mets fan with a 20b hedge fund billionaire as our owner, how did they get hornswoggled into what looks like a FREE Ohtani basically?

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Listened to a really good podcast on a walk today, will try to link it, about the contract. Allow me some leeway on the details, but....

a) Of the 700m, the Angels will have to actually account for 440m and the interest will carry that to 700m.
b) They don't have to defer any money for 26 months. So they don't have to reach into their own wallet until July 2026.
c) Between now and July 2026, they think the Dodgers can recover ALL of what they need to cover that 440m nut with the TV and merchandising deals.

In essence, they're on a 2 year marketing junket where experts feel they'll start July 2026 at a net-net 0 balance and (assuming nothing is renegotiated or changes) any additional actions they can make to profit off his likeness will go in their pockets for the rest of the contract. And the deferred deal, as mentioned, helps Ohtani escape all CA taxes.

I'm no expert, but as a Mets fan with a 20b hedge fund billionaire as our owner, how did they get hornswoggled into what looks like a FREE Ohtani basically?

Ohtani wanted to win, and this is his way of helping the Dodgers win while also being in one of the biggest media markets in the USA. Ohtani made $40M in endorsement money in 2022, and the next MLB player is Trout at $5M. He will make $50M to $100M in endorsement money alone being Dodger which is why he can defer everything.

Ohtani jersey sale just broke records as it sold more than any pro athlete's jersey in history just now.

Opening day standing only at Dodger stadium was normally $85. This year it went to $500 due to the Ohtani.

Ohtani brand is real, and it might reach Michael Jordan status in the coming years if he keeps going.

SF Giants offered him the same deal but he went with the Dodgers. I would have done the same if I were him just to get some protection playing with Betts and Freeman. He never really had batting protection with the Angels with Trout due to the fact Trout was always hurt when though they played years together.

If you look at the bigger picture, yes Dodgers are getting Ohtani basically for free with all the additional revenue just being associated with Ohtani.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

That’s a fair assessment. Only in today’s and I like the guy. But people try to say he’s maybe the greatest of all time. Hardly in the conversation!

You must be a hater .

There isn't any doubt Ohtani is the greatest baseball player and talent in the history of baseball. There is no equal, and no one is even close. Not Babe Ruth, not anyone.

MLB players appreciate his talent as well as anyone who understands baseball. There will always be haters, but they are not looking at this objectively.

 

[mauconnfan]

You must be a hater .

There isn't any doubt Ohtani is the greatest baseball player and talent in the history of baseball. There is no equal, and no one is even close. Not Babe Ruth, not anyone.

MLB players appreciate his talent as well as anyone who understands baseball. There will always be haters, but they are not looking at this objectively.

I’m not a hater I’m just not foolish enough to fall into the medias love fest. It’s an absolute joke to think he’s the greatest of all time. Almost hilarious!

 

[WestCoastHusky]

I’m not a hater I’m just not foolish enough to fall into the medias love fest. It’s an absolute joke to think he’s the greatest of all time. Almost hilarious!

What's hilarious is you actually think otherwise. You might want to set an appointment with your eye doctor to get your vision checked.

Literally read the title of this article:

www.thebiglead.com/posts/shohei-ohtani-is-the-greatest-baseball-player-of-all-time-01h407b5gzdj

There are literally multiple people who are in the baseball business who feel this way, and plenty of articles by professional baseball writers who have written on this topic.

If you are lazy, watch this video for a quick summary:



We might not see another one like Ohtani for another 100 years or more. Now that he is finally with the Dodgers with a real lineup, he will all suddenly look that much better just by the fact he will have much better players surrounding him.

Ohtani is on the way to be the Michael Jordan of baseball.

Anyway, you are welcome to have your opinion but plenty of people disagreeing with you.

 

[Scoe]

Best player you have seen on a baseball field vs best player ever are 2 different things. You do have to at least have to have some measure of success in the postseason.

 

[mauconnfan]

What's hilarious is you actually think otherwise. You might want to set an appointment with your eye doctor to get your vision checked.

Literally read the title of this article:

www.thebiglead.com/posts/shohei-ohtani-is-the-greatest-baseball-player-of-all-time-01h407b5gzdj

There are literally multiple people who are in the baseball business who feel this way, and plenty of articles by professional baseball writers who have written on this topic.

If you are lazy, watch this video for a quick summary:



We might not see another one like Ohtani for another 100 years or more. Now that he is finally with the Dodgers with a real lineup, he will all suddenly look that much better just by the fact he will have much better players surrounding him.

Ohtani is on the way to be the Michael Jordan of baseball.

Anyway, you are welcome to have your opinion but plenty of people disagreeing with you.

You obviously never played after little league. I don’t need to watch anything he’s 29 years old and he averages .270 and strikes out 30% of his ABs. Wow he’s phenomenal lol. Other than that you’re obviously an expert on baseball

 

[WestCoastHusky]

You obviously never played after little league. I don’t need to watch anything he’s 29 years old and he averages .270 and strikes out 30% of his ABs. Wow he’s phenomenal lol. Other than that you’re obviously an expert on baseball

What's hilarious is you still believe batting average is like the number one measurement on how good a hitter is when there are many other measurements saying otherwise. Talking about being completely clueless about modern day baseball.

You can attack my baseball credentials, but every GM from multiple teams must stupid as hell cause multiple games offered the guy $700M contract, and that's almost double the next biggest MLB contact. Those GMs, owners, team physicians, and pro scouts must be completely idiots, but they just happen to run professional baseball organisations. I am sure those guys never play past little leagues either .

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Best player you have seen on a baseball field vs best player ever are 2 different things. You do have to at least have to have some measure of success in the postseason.

I am sure you are aware this but one guy simple can't impact baseball the way one guy can in a sport like basketball. Ohtani can't overcome a bad MLB owner like Arte Moreno. He is literally one of the worst owners in baseball with it's horrible management of the team. I can go into it but it is not worth it here.

Now that he is playing for the Dodgers, we will find out what you stated.

 

[mauconnfan]

What's hilarious is you still believe batting average is like the number one measurement on how good a hitter is when there are many other measurements saying otherwise. Talking about being completely clueless about modern day baseball.

You can attack my baseball credentials, but every GM from multiple teams must stupid as hell cause multiple games offered the guy $700M contract, and that's almost double the next biggest MLB contact. Those GMs, owners, team physicians, and pro scouts must be completely idiots, but they just happen to run professional baseball organisations. I am sure those guys never play past little leagues either .

Contracts now tell you that he’s the greatest player ever, how much GMs are offering? lol now that is the definition of clueless. So when Juan Soto gets the next big contract that’s the GMs telling us he’s the 2nd best player ever? Lol you’re not worth my time keep listening to the media morons. He’s really a what looks to be a great baseball player but he will never be in the greatest baseball player ever conversation. I will revisit accordingly if he throws up numbers higher than this year in every facet for the next 5-7 years.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Contracts now tell you that he’s the greatest player ever, how much GMs are offering? lol now that is the definition of clueless. So when Juan Soto gets the next big contract that’s the GMs telling us he’s the 2nd best player ever? Lol you’re not worth my time keep listening to the media morons. He’s really a what looks to be a great baseball player but he will never be in the greatest baseball player ever conversation. I will revisit accordingly if he throws up numbers higher than this year in every facet for the next 5-7 years.

Yeah.. Keep moving the goal post when you can't debate. He already surpassed Babe Ruth in many ways, and he already did more than Babe Ruth as a 2 way player.

The only comparison and competition right now is to himself. He doesn't need to prove anything to a hater like you. What he has done other than winning the world series is enough to be the greatest player ever. He never won any championships? Were you in a cave when the WBC happened?

 

[mauconnfan]

Yeah.. Keep moving the goal post when you can't debate. He already surpassed Babe Ruth in many ways, and he already did more than Babe Ruth as a 2 way player.

The only comparison and competition right now is to himself. He doesn't need to prove anything to a hater like you. What he has done other than winning the world series is enough to be the greatest player ever. He never won any championships? Were you in a cave when the WBC happened?

What is he the best at ever in either thing or even close?? Hitting for average - only hit .300 once and has never approached 200 hits. Not close actually. Has he won 20 games or even close? No 15 would be max. 160 innings one year so not an innings eater. Please tell me why I’m a hater and not just a baseball fan?

By the way surpassed Babe Ruth, in what? lol is he gonna hit .360 next year? He is better than Ruth in the fact he has pitched and hit in same years more than Ruth other than that, no.

I’m not the hater at all you’re in love with something that’s just not reality.

 

[Scoe]

Put me in the hater camp for saying he’s not Babe Ruth.

 

[Deepster]

Yeah.. Keep moving the goal post when you can't debate. He already surpassed Babe Ruth in many ways, and he already did more than Babe Ruth as a 2 way player.

The only comparison and competition right now is to himself. He doesn't need to prove anything to a hater like you. What he has done other than winning the world series is enough to be the greatest player ever. He never won any championships? Were you in a cave when the WBC happened?

“He already surpassed Babe Ruth.”

Good lord.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

“He already surpassed Babe Ruth.”

Good lord.

Talking to a bunch of Yankee fans

Ohtani faced competition about 100x better than Babe Ruth ever faced. It is not even in the same galaxy.

Read for yourself:

Stop saying Shohei Ohtani is like Babe Ruth, he has proven to be a far better player

We have all been making the same mistake for the past two years, Shohei Ohtani does have many similarities Babe Ruth had. They are both incredible sluggers and they are both elite-

www.marca.com

Babe Ruth vs. Shohei Ohtani: Key stats to know in debate over MLB's best two-way player ever | Sporting News

Shohei Ohtani's dominance has sparked arguments over who the greatest player ever is. Here's how he matches up against the Bambino.

www.sportingnews.com

The Herd breaks it down this discussion pretty bluntly. Plenty of people have discussed this topic, and plenty of people who are disagreeing with you guys.

Ohtani just won AP male athlete of the year over Novak and Messi this morning.

 

[mauconnfan]

Talking to a bunch of Yankee fans

Ohtani faced competition about 100x better than Babe Ruth ever faced. It is not even in the same galaxy.

Read for yourself:

Stop saying Shohei Ohtani is like Babe Ruth, he has proven to be a far better player

We have all been making the same mistake for the past two years, Shohei Ohtani does have many similarities Babe Ruth had. They are both incredible sluggers and they are both elite-

www.marca.com

Babe Ruth vs. Shohei Ohtani: Key stats to know in debate over MLB's best two-way player ever | Sporting News

Shohei Ohtani's dominance has sparked arguments over who the greatest player ever is. Here's how he matches up against the Bambino.

www.sportingnews.com

The Herd breaks it down this discussion pretty bluntly. Plenty of people have discussed this topic, and plenty of people who are disagreeing with you guys.

Ohtani just won AP male athlete of the year over Novak and Messi this morning.

The Herd lol now I know why you think he’s the best player ever. The fact that guy has a sports talk show is laughable he’s a dope.

Deep not a Yankee fan FYI. And Judge won Male Athlete of the Year in ‘22 so he must be tied with Ohtani for greatest baseball player ever.

 

[Deepster]

Talking to a bunch of Yankee fans

Ohtani faced competition about 100x better than Babe Ruth ever faced. It is not even in the same galaxy.

Read for yourself:

Stop saying Shohei Ohtani is like Babe Ruth, he has proven to be a far better player

We have all been making the same mistake for the past two years, Shohei Ohtani does have many similarities Babe Ruth had. They are both incredible sluggers and they are both elite-

www.marca.com

Babe Ruth vs. Shohei Ohtani: Key stats to know in debate over MLB's best two-way player ever | Sporting News

Shohei Ohtani's dominance has sparked arguments over who the greatest player ever is. Here's how he matches up against the Bambino.

www.sportingnews.com

The Herd breaks it down this discussion pretty bluntly. Plenty of people have discussed this topic, and plenty of people who are disagreeing with you guys.

Ohtani just won AP male athlete of the year over Novak and Messi this morning.

Ruth was the first player to ever hit 200, 300, 400, 500, 600 and 700 home runs. Ohtani is 5-6 more years like he’s had from approaching a guy like Albert Pujols. Please.

 

[mauconnfan]

Ruth was the first player to ever hit 200, 300, 400, 500, 600 and 700 home runs. Ohtani is 5-6 more years like he’s had from approaching a guy like Albert Pujols. Please.

When Ruth was hitting HRs they were lucky if they used 2-3 balls during a game. Imagine hitting brown balls late in games. Hell I can, because we did it growing up it’s not easy. They always saved that one Pearl for late innings in case it was getting dark. Now they use new pearls about 100-200 a game. Dead ball era versus now makes a difference too!

 

[WestCoastHusky]

The Herd lol now I know why you think he’s the best player ever. The fact that guy has a sports talk show is laughable he’s a dope.

Deep not a Yankee fan FYI. And Judge won Male Athlete of the Year in ‘22 so he must be tied with Ohtani for greatest baseball player ever.

Ohtani should have won in 2022 too. Judge had an amazing year but Ohtani also had an amazing year.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Good debate guys but let's enjoy the modern day Babe Ruth. We might not see another one like Ohtani for another 100+ years.

Dodgers just signed Yamamoto. With Yamamoto, Glasgow, Ohtani as top 3, it is a stacked top 3. If they get Roki Sasaki next year, it be insane.

 

[Scoe]

Talking to a bunch of Yankee fans

Ohtani faced competition about 100x better than Babe Ruth ever faced. It is not even in the same galaxy.

Read for yourself:

Stop saying Shohei Ohtani is like Babe Ruth, he has proven to be a far better player

We have all been making the same mistake for the past two years, Shohei Ohtani does have many similarities Babe Ruth had. They are both incredible sluggers and they are both elite-

www.marca.com

Babe Ruth vs. Shohei Ohtani: Key stats to know in debate over MLB's best two-way player ever | Sporting News

Shohei Ohtani's dominance has sparked arguments over who the greatest player ever is. Here's how he matches up against the Bambino.

www.sportingnews.com

The Herd breaks it down this discussion pretty bluntly. Plenty of people have discussed this topic, and plenty of people who are disagreeing with you guys.

Ohtani just won AP male athlete of the year over Novak and Messi this morning.

Boomers never even saw Babe Ruth play lol.