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The best case scenario for UConn is that somebody panics.

We just need one team in the ACC to get nervous and start to worry about their seat at the big boy table. Or one conference to think that maybe someone else will get the jump.

It's like World War I - we need someone to shoot the Archduke.
 
Jericho said:
I can't think of one ACC school that would choose the Big 12 over the Big 10. The only school on the planet that seems to make that choice is Texas.
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That's the conventional widsom, that the Big 10 would be the first choice for any ACC school. But if Texas is so valuable, why not join their conference? If being in the south is valuable to the Big 10, being in the south would also be valuable to other southern conferences. Why not join with other southern powers?
 
The B1G is being so exaggerated. Besides Missouri, do you think any SEC school would leave for the B1G? Again, UNC's fans prefer the SEC by far.
 
Fishy said:
The best case scenario for UConn is that somebody panics.

We just need one team in the ACC to get nervous and start to worry about their seat at the big boy table. Or one conference to think that maybe someone else will get the jump.

It's like World War I - we need someone to shoot the Archduke.
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or one of the B1G, SEC, ACC or Big12 Commisioners to have the big one.

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Butch said:
The B1G is being so exaggerated. Besides Missouri, do you think any SEC school would leave for the B1G? Again, UNC's fans prefer the SEC by far.
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The fans don't run the place. The B1G needs a footprint in the south. That's their shortcoming.
 
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ZooCougar said:
Oh please.
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Apart from the Mississippi schools, Arkansas and South Carolina, the SEC schools are not much worse or barely worse than what's in the B1G. Yeah, oh please.
 
Butch said:
And the academics of the schools in the SEC are either excellent or getting better.
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True.

Excellent = Vanderbilt
Getting Better (improving from C level to C+ level) = the other 13 schools
 
ZooCougar said:
The fans don't run the place. The B1G needs a footprint in the south. That's their shortcoming.
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I know this. You can compare this to the Civil War. Certainly easier said than done. Any wise administration would go along with demographics. And demographics don't favor the B1G, at all.
 
Hoophound said:
Florida, Vandy and ............. are good. Excuse me if I forgot one.
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UGA is aiming for the AAU. I mentioned other schools as well. Not going to repeat myself.
 
vowelguy said:
True.

Excellent = Vanderbilt
Getting Better (improving from C level to C+ level) = the other 13 schools
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Wrong. Hard to believe how biased northerners are towards the south. Now you wonder why UNC fans prefer the SEC?
 
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Fishy said:
The best case scenario for UConn is that somebody panics.

We just need one team in the ACC to get nervous and start to worry about their seat at the big boy table. Or one conference to think that maybe someone else will get the jump.

It's like World War I - we need someone to shoot the Archduke.
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O ... I knew we were going to get to this point. As passionate as many can get with Conference Realignment & College Sports (in general), it's not hard to imagine a character stalking John Swofford in Greensboro ... or a Chicago massacre of Delaney on Valentine's Day.
 
Florida has some departments that are very good. But the entirety of UNC is fantastic. They are not even close to being in the same league academically.

I think much of the B1g is overrated academically. But on balance it is far better than the SEC.
 
Butch said:
Apart from the Mississippi schools, Arkansas and South Carolina, the SEC schools are not much worse or barely worse than what's in the B1G. Yeah, oh please.
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Simply not true.

I agree with the former statement. In Academics, it's Vandy ... maybe Florida ... sometimes Georgia ... and never ever ever most all the rest. The B1G, justifiably, has solid schools pretty much across the board (at Florida level or better).
 
And let's not forget what big time sports have done for UConn. It's not as if SEC schools can't further improve. I could easily imagine they will want to now.
 
Butch said:
Apart from the Mississippi schools, Arkansas and South Carolina, the SEC schools are not much worse or barely worse than what's in the B1G. Yeah, oh please.
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So apart from 45% of the conference or so, the rest of the conference is just a little worse than the B1g save Vandy.

Time to put down your hashpipe.
 
Pudge said:
Simply not true.

I agree with the former statement. In Academics, it's Vandy ... maybe Florida ... sometimes Georgia ... and never ever ever most all the rest. The B1G, justifiably, has solid schools pretty much across the board (at Florida level or better).
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Indiana is only 5 spots better than Alabama. Please continue.
 
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ZooCougar said:
So apart from 45% of the conference or so, the rest of the conference is just a little worse than the B1g save Vandy.

Time to put down your hashpipe.
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Time to stop snorting bath salts.
 
US News Rankings

Big 10: #12, 29, 41, 46, 46, 56 / 65, 68, 72, 72, 83, 101 (Median = #61)
SEC: #17, 54, 63, 65, 77, 89, 97 / 101, 115, 125, 134, 134, 151, 160 (Median = #99)

1/2 of SEC is equal/worse than bottom B10 team (#101 Nebraska)
Median = #61 vs #99
Top 50 = 5 vs 1
Top 100 = 11 vs 7
 
Butch said:
And let's not forget what big time sports have done for UConn. It's not as if SEC schools can't further improve. I could easily imagine they will want to now.
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UConn did that within a decade of becoming an athletic success.
Many of the SEC schools have been successful for decades, and their schools are still mediocre. Some of this is the local school system. In CT, kids could go to lots of other great schools in the northeast. In the SEC, the state university is often the top school in the state.
 
Florida is a top 20 public U. Very good. Not that they hold football players to normal standards or anything.
 
vowelguy said:
UConn did that within a decade of becoming an athletic success.
Many of the SEC schools have been successful for decades, and their schools are still mediocre. Some of this is the local school system. In CT, kids could go to lots of other great schools in the northeast. In the SEC, the state university is often the top school in the state.
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In the SEC the State U may not be the best school, but it may be the most prestigious. In Tennessee, a degree from UT might get you more than a degree from Vandy, Rhodes, or Sewanee. Just like a degree from Ole Miss may open more doors than a degree from Millsaps.

I think things are changing in CT, obviously. But even in the early '90s UConn was a safety school for many people in state. UVM was probably the most prestigious northeastern state school, it was definitely more difficult to get into out of state.

Ever since Private College tuition started to cost as much as a house, I think things have turned. UConn should be positioned beautifully.
 
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Hoophound said:
Florida is a top 20 public U. Very good. Not that they hold football players to normal standards or anything.
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My favorite quote on Florida came in an interview Rich Rodriguez did with Mike Francesa. they were discussing academic standards and recruiting and how it effected schools like Michigan and Notre Dame. Francesa said , "well you can't get some of the kids that get accepted to Florida into Michigan," and Rich rod's response was a classic.."Well, Mike, you can get a plant into Florida if he's a football player."
 
Butch said:
UNC's fans don't want to go to the B1G. And the academics of the schools in the SEC are either excellent or getting better.
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Especially true of the eastern division. Vandy, Georgia, Florida are all strong schools. A&M is good too, and believe it or not, so is Alabama.
 
Fishy said:
The best case scenario for UConn is that somebody panics.

We just need one team in the ACC to get nervous and start to worry about their seat at the big boy table. Or one conference to think that maybe someone else will get the jump.

It's like World War I - we need someone to shoot the Archduke.
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No, that would be bad. It would result in having to dig in deep, use of conventional weapons, and cost millions of lives. What we need, is really to go all out. This situation absolutely requires a really stupid, and futile gesture to be done on somebody's part.

I think it's time the boneyard really do something dumb, and stir up a hornet's nest that is so wild and frenzied, with our rumors and innuendo, that a conference, has no choice but to let us in before we destroy the whole town!

Who's with me!!! I'm building the death mobile.



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