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HuskyNan said:
Bowl games aren’t necessarily money makers for the schools

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I agree that bowls are just a reward for having some on field success. But they do put a school in the public eye and provide a chance for fans to sometimes go to a warm climate for a few days.
 
beerfan said:
I still think no one is considering the pre-mature "ticket fee" in this whole equation. Before Hurley righted the ship we were asked to pay an $800 seat fee. That was an insane request considering the current situation, we were a middling school in a middling conference. No wonder most ticket holders just decided it wasn't worth it.

When this new fee went over like a lead balloon they panicked and made the Big East move, basically abandoning the football program. People are now wondering about the mass transfers from the football program and blaming coaches but in reality the school made a decision that the football program was not the priority.

I hope I am wrong but these moves will turn us back to be a UNH or URI status, and unfortunately bring the University down to that status as well. When I was applying to college Uconn was a safety school, now it is an elite school my daughter wants to go to. I hate to say sports Calhoun and Geno helped to get it to the level. Unfortunately in ten years it won't be.
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To think they are not prioritizing football is utter nonsense. Ever think how embarrassing an empty Rent is? We failed in the AAC and the AAC didn't have a strong allure to fans. How Tulane is doing well, I have no idea. But the TV contract offered to the AAC was enough a reason to hit the eject button.

Being an independent with games against schools around here instead of Tulsa, Tulane, ECU, USF, SMU, etc, is going to make a HUGE difference in fan interest not only in UConn football, but college football in the northeast. There appears to be a willingness between schools in the northeast to develop the scene and the way to do that is by playing each other. Regional rivals and more P5 games a year trumps the AAC. This is a very unique opportunity afforded to is by the very high level of success in other athletic programs. Going to the Big East actually gives us more leverage for better games in football because of stronger and more desirable basketball programs that fans of other schools will want over at their schools.

I am actually amazed. at how clever a plan they have going. Just need our Knute Rockne.
 
Butch said:
To think they are not prioritizing football is utter nonsense. Ever think how embarrassing an empty Rent is? We failed in the AAC and the AAC didn't have a strong allure to fans. How Tulane is doing well, I have no idea. But the TV contract offered to the AAC was enough a reason to hit the eject button.

Being an independent with games against schools around here instead of Tulsa, Tulane, ECU, USF, SMU, etc, is going to make a HUGE difference in fan interest not only in UConn football, but college football in the northeast. There appears to be a willingness between schools in the northeast to develop the scene and the way to do that is by playing each other. Regional rivals and more P5 games a year trumps the AAC. This is a very unique opportunity afforded to is by the very high level of success in other athletic programs. Going to the Big East actually gives us more leverage for better games in football because of stronger and more desirable basketball programs that fans of other schools will want over at their schools.

I am actually amazed. at how clever a plan they have going. Just need our Knute Rockne.
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No ones showing up to see UCONN play UMASS or central or even BC. UCONN needs schools from the midwest, texas and florida to come to the Rent to move the needle. Buffalo, Syracuse and rutgers aren't exactly going to move the needle either. The only school in the northeast thatll draw a crowd is Penn St. Everyone else is no better than playing Tulane.
 
DoctorWho85 said:
No ones showing up to see UCONN play UMASS or central or even BC. UCONN needs schools from the midwest, texas and florida to come to the Rent to move the needle. Buffalo, Syracuse and rutgers aren't exactly going to move the needle either. The only school in the northeast thatll draw a crowd is Penn St. Everyone else is no better than playing Tulane.
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If you notice, every other successful conference, besides the ACC, is regional. I know no one showed up for the last game between UConn and UMass. Doesn't matter, the scene here needs to be cultivated and the only way to succeed in doing that is regional rivalries. Basic marketing. And this is for all schools around here, not just us, and I think they are finally grasping the dire need to cultivate the scene here when the biggest college football crowd every other year here is The Game at the Yale Bowl. No one said developing a stronger interest in the FBS college football scene in the northeast will be overnight.
 
Butch said:
If you notice, every other successful conference, besides the ACC, is regional. I know no one showed up for the last game between UConn and UMass. Doesn't matter, the scene here needs to be cultivated and the only way to succeed in doing that is regional rivalries. Basic marketing. And this is for all schools around here, not just us, and I think they are finally grasping the dire need to cultivate the scene here when the biggest college football crowd every other year here is The Game at the Yale Bowl. No one said developing a stronger interest in the FBS college football scene in the northeast will be overnight.
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We had a Northeast football league in the Big East, but due to ineptitude by failing to invite Penn St in the 80s, basketball schools basically forcing out the Football powers in Miami and VT and negotiating a terrible tv contract northeast football is all but dead. Almost all the northeast schools not Penn St barely look competitive anymore. Unless money comes back to building rivalries, nothing is going to fix that problem of no one caring.
 
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DoctorWho85 said:
We had a Northeast football league in the Big East, but due to ineptitude by failing to invite Penn St in the 80s, basketball schools basically forcing out the Football powers in Miami and VT and negotiating a terrible tv contract northeast football is all but dead. Almost all the northeast schools not Penn St barely look competitive anymore. Unless money comes back to building rivalries, nothing is going to fix that problem of no one caring.
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Building rivalries is what'll lead to money. 3 northeast FBS teams are new to the scene, UB, UMass and us. Thus, have to play teams people and opponents' fans would travel to watch.

The Big East football years are perfect proof of what I am saying. That was a great regional league until it was torn apart by more powerful or better situated conferences. If people of the northeast had the foresight of what state flagship schools would become, a solid northeastern Big Ten type conference would have been developed long ago. The private schools that once dominated college football have chosen to be relics. A good percentage of the oldest football fields in the US are in the NESCAC.
 
Temple and Memphis were just above Rutgers in the jokes of college football list. Both managed to turn thins around bugle. And as for recruiting area, the aforementioned Rutgers is in the top recruiting area in the northeast. How’s that working for them?
 
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Irishfan said:
would you give up all the Women’s basketball championships for a spot in the Big Ten?
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That's not the right question. Of course a group already on record of disdaining women's sports would chuck them overboard. Would these guys give up the men's titles? I bet many would.
 
Waquoit said:
That's not the right question. Of course a group already on record of disdaining women's sports would chuck them overboard. Would these guys give up the men's titles? I bet many would.
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i gladly would. Haven’t said it before I don’t think but here goes - football drives the bus.
 
Waquoit said:
That's not the right question. Of course a group already on record of disdaining women's sports would chuck them overboard. Would these guys give up the men's titles? I bet many would.
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I asked this question because a poster in another thread had stated that UConn should refuse to play ND in Women’s basketball until ND schedules UConn in football. I Can’t imagine a scenario where a women’s basketball game would even come into the conversation regarding the football program. I was just wondering if anyone else here felt like Women’s basketball held the kind of pull that could influence football scheduling.
 
Irishfan said:
I asked this question because a poster in another thread had stated that UConn should refuse to play ND in Women’s basketball until ND schedules UConn in football. I Can’t imagine a scenario where a women’s basketball game would even come into the conversation regarding the football program. I was just wondering if anyone else here felt like Women’s basketball held the kind of pull that could influence football scheduling.
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Yes. Only if UConn gets 2 of 3 in East Hartford.
 
Irishfan said:
I asked this question because a poster in another thread had stated that UConn should refuse to play ND in Women’s basketball until ND schedules UConn in football. I Can’t imagine a scenario where a women’s basketball game would even come into the conversation regarding the football program. I was just wondering if anyone else here felt like Women’s basketball held the kind of pull that could influence football scheduling.
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God no.
 
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uconnfan68 said:
Go away troll.
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so you are one who actually thinks Women’s basketball can have an impact the football program. Do you think the fans at Alabama, Clemson or Ohio State share this opinion?
 
Irishfan said:
Do you think the fans at Alabama, Clemson or Ohio State share this opinion?
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Of course not for those other program...but unlike your others, ND does care about women’s basketball .... and ND does play some crap MAC teams so they might as well play us too. Should be able to play a game with ND football once a decade...I think that is possible.... dangling women’s BB might get us a game once every eight years. Might.
 
Irishfan said:
so you are one who actually thinks Women’s basketball can have an impact the football program. Do you think the fans at Alabama, Clemson or Ohio State share this opinion?
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Really don’t care. All dead to me. Just like ND.
 
Exit 4 said:
Of course not for those other program...but unlike your others, ND does care about women’s basketball .... and ND does play some crap MAC teams so they might as well play us too. Should be able to play a game with ND football once a decade...I think that is possible.... dangling women’s BB might get us a game once every eight years. Might.
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I agree, ND does care about Women’s basketball. But certainly not to a point where it might impact the football team.
 
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Irishfan said:
I agree, ND does care about Women’s basketball. But certainly not to a point where it might impact the football team.
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Look at ND’s scheduling history, there are some non strategic garbage games mixed in like New Mexico and Bowling Green in 2019 and Marshall in 2021. No reason we can’t dangle a womens game as sweetener to become one of these cupcakes. The womens game should be an effective tiebreaker vs some other option for ND.
 
Exit 4 said:
Look at ND’s scheduling history, there are some non strategic garbage games mixed in like New Mexico and Bowling Green in 2019 and Marshall in 2021. No reason we can’t dangle a womens game as sweetener to become one of these cupcakes. The womens game should be an effective tiebreaker vs some other option for ND.
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ND has a habit of scheduling games against teams with ties to Notre Dame. New Mexico was coached by ex ND head coach Bob Davie for several years before the game in 2019. And while I’m sure the Bowling Green game had been scheduled before Brian Vangorder became the defensive coordinator there, it was interesting to see him on the sidelines not screwing up our defense. There was probably some tie to someone at BG When the game was scheduled, but Probably not associated with women’s basketball.
 
Irishfan said:
so all the top football teams are dead to you. Do you think most UConn fans feel that way?
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Judging by attendance at UConn games, you aren't necessarily wrong.
 
I know that FSU must not care about women's basketball...

For instance...Warchant doesn't even have a women' basketball forum...not even a women's hoops schedule on the site....
 
Irishfan said:
I asked this question because a poster in another thread had stated that UConn should refuse to play ND in Women’s basketball until ND schedules UConn in football. I Can’t imagine a scenario where a women’s basketball game would even come into the conversation regarding the football program. I was just wondering if anyone else here felt like Women’s basketball held the kind of pull that could influence football scheduling.
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I think the posters here are mostly male. Muffet doesn’t want us caring about women’s basketball
 
Irishfan said:
so all the top football teams are dead to you. Do you think most UConn fans feel that way?
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Why do ND fans come to football message boards and act arrogant?

You aren't the AD, you are just a fan of the team. You get that, right?
 
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