Ogunbowale’s Personal Foul

[Kevin G]

Arike's poor attitude and dirty play is on tape. Can't argue with that. IMO I dont care what kind of numbers she puts up this year....she will never be NPOY in my eyes. Disgusting!

 

[vtcwbuff]

Keep in mind that is the way you saw it and that does not make it so. I saw it differently.

I watched that play in slo-mo a couple of times. I do not believe that Ogunbowale deliberately undercut Williams. She had other chippy plays but not this one. My opinion is that the contact was incidental and Ogunbowale was simply reacting knowing that the contact was coming.

My point is that we have the time and the technology to disect each and every suspect play and we still have difficulty in agreeing about what we see. Imagine how difficult it is for a ref making (or not making) a call in the moment.

I also wonder what kind of super power some fans have where they can decide that this ref saw that or that ref saw this. How the hell do you tell what a ref is seeing?

 

[vtcwbuff]

"I bet Geno was telling his kids not to ever act like that . . . "

Not kids - and I bet that it's CD telling the players

 

[Centerstream]

Muffet has to be so mad at her dirty plays and unsportsmanlike attitude with the tech and not shaking Genos hand.
Muffet should suspend her. Complete lack of class. I bet Geno was telling his kids not to ever act like that no matter what. It’s winderful to have such classy girls and program.

I don't think that is a problem to MM, she barely acknowledges Geno after a loss.

 

[donalddoowop]

I watched that play in slo-mo a couple of times. I do not believe that Ogunbowale deliberately undercut Williams. She had other chippy plays but not this one. My opinion is that the contact was incidental and Ogunbowale was simply reacting knowing that the contact was coming.

My point is that we have the time and the technology to disect each and every suspect play and we still have difficulty in agreeing about what we see. Imagine how difficult it is for a ref making (or not making) a call in the moment.

I also wonder what kind of super power some fans have where they can decide that this ref saw that or that ref saw this. How the hell do you tell what a ref is seeing?

Kantner was the trail official at that time and it was her job to watch the two players as they went down the court. If she did not see it then she was not doing her job. My comment had nothing to do with the play you mentioned. The play I commented involved Arike and Dangerfield. If you think that was incidental contact then you are mistaken. Even people on the ND message board saw that as being out of line.

 

[hoopsfan22]

A few posters have called the knock down of Crystal Dangerfield at half court a "body check" or "hip check." Calling it by those more innocuous terms diminishes the seriousness of the attack (in fact, it was vicious, in my view) and even gives the perpetrator some deniability to hang on to by saying "Oh, I only bumped into her and she fell." A cursory viewing of the replay may make it look like a "body check," but if you look closely at it numerous times you can see her kick Crystal Dangerfield's leg out from under her and while she's off balance Arike knocks her down with her left arm. It's a studied move, and given how many times she made moves like this to take players down in the game, I'll bet she's very proud of her skill. I agree with others who have said she should face some kind of discipline or suspension, either by ND or the NCAA, preferably the latter.

Neither will happen. I thought from the NCAA's perspective the bare minimum requires you getting ejected before they'd even look at it. Unsportsmanlike fouls, flagrants, and technicals happen frequently enough that they will not be reviewed beyond the scorer's table. The way to handle it is to dish out a message of your own. We really don't have the bodies for this, but if we had Batouly at our disposal, you let her go out and level one of the Irish, preferably someone important like Mabrey2. Or you send Molly out to deliver a quick and inconspicuous shot to the sternum. Sometimes a bully only understands another bully, and if the refs are going to allow it, then it becomes like baseball where if one of your guys gets plunked, you get a freebie to do the same.

 

[Biff]

The way to handle it is to dish out a message of your own. We really don't have the bodies for this, but if we had Batouly at our disposal, you let her go out and level one of the Irish, preferably someone important like Mabrey2. Or you send Molly out to deliver a quick and inconspicuous shot to the sternum.

This won't happen at UConn under Geno and if it ever did happen I would move on to find a new team to watch.

 

[HuskyNan]

Neither will happen. I thought from the NCAA's perspective the bare minimum requires you getting ejected before they'd even look at it. Unsportsmanlike fouls, flagrants, and technicals happen frequently enough that they will not be reviewed beyond the scorer's table. The way to handle it is to dish out a message of your own. We really don't have the bodies for this, but if we had Batouly at our disposal, you let her go out and level one of the Irish, preferably someone important like Mabrey2. Or you send Molly out to deliver a quick and inconspicuous shot to the sternum. Sometimes a bully only understands another bully, and if the refs are going to allow it, then it becomes like baseball where if one of your guys gets plunked, you get a freebie to do the same.

That’s a disgusting thought and you should be ashamed for saying it.

Some people here are losing their minds.