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UConn didn't leave the original BE. The basketball only schools left with the BE name.
They left with the name because we sold it to them. That sale was seed money to build the AAC. Turned out to be a bad investment for us but a major part of that was bad outcomes with our choices.
 
If our administration couldn’t even have talked the Big East into waiving the entry fee then I feel like we might not have spent our due diligence setting up this move. UConn brings way more value to the Big East than the Big East brings to UConn (in my opinion). Big East should be welcoming us with open arms. We’re worth at least $20M/year in tv money to them which means just having us in the league should be increasing revenue of each school by $2M/year.
This school isn't exactly known for shrewd negotiations in case you haven't been keeping up on current history
 
If our administration couldn’t even have talked the Big East into waiving the entry fee then I feel like we might not have spent our due diligence setting up this move. UConn brings way more value to the Big East than the Big East brings to UConn (in my opinion). Big East should be welcoming us with open arms. We’re worth at least $20M/year in tv money to them which means just having us in the league should be increasing revenue of each school by $2M/year.

Entrance fee is the last thing they should have been bargaining over. More important:
- Ability to leave freely if a P5 offer comes. No grant of rights.
- Ownership/control of media rights not taken up by Fox so that they can have year-round SNY content and do a sizable cable package. Validating value of UConn on cable not only monetizes UConn's regional fans, it helps prove value to P5 conferences with networks. Say we get $8 million from SNY for Big East Tier 3 and indy football games, that would likely be equivalent to $20 million on ACC network with ACC competition, more on BTN with Big Ten competition.

There could be all kind of other provisions in the agreement, e.g. help with exit fee, that may have been important to UConn.
 
UConn didn't leave the original BE. The basketball only schools left with the BE name.
They made a conscious choice to concentrate on football and go to the AAC. They could of stayed if they were willing to go independent in Football then. I know that is a chance they were willing to make to go P5. It just sucks we wasted 6 years on this pipe dream.
 
They made a conscious choice to concentrate on football and go to the AAC. They could of stayed if they were willing to go independent in Football then. I know that is a chance they were willing to make to go P5. It just sucks we wasted 6 years on this pipe dream.

Repeat after me. We did not leave our conference. The Catholic 7 left and formed a new league, then bought the naming rights to the Big East. We were not invited to leave with them.
 
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Repeat after me. We did not leave our conference. The Catholic 7 left and formed a new league, then bought the naming rights to the Big East. We were not invited to leave with them.
You don't think they offered for us to stay if we left our football team independent?
 
20 years from now football will probably be 8 v. 8 flag football.
My hope based on head trauma. I think the most likely future is less kids playing but enough to feed the college ranks. The number of schools participating will be significantly reduced. The payoff to them could be huge if the NFL continues to use universities as a developmental league.

What sport, if any, that people in this country turn to fill the void is anyone’s guess. It could be basketball but I wouldn’t rule out soccer or computer gaming.
 
Repeat after me. We did not leave our conference. The Catholic 7 left and formed a new league, then bought the naming rights to the Big East. We were not invited to leave with them.
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They can repeat after me if you need it.
 
You don't think they offered for us to stay if we left our football team independent?

My understanding is that they originally wanted to form a league with members all on the same page, so not football playing schools.
 
If I recall correctly the Catholics wanted clean break from all-sports and there was no offer like that
Well I didn't say there wasn't anything official. I guess we were so committed at the time to football that it really never was an option. Either way we are back home so I'm glad.
 
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It still chaps me when I look at many of the truly shytty athletic departments in P5. Hopefully this somehow gets us on the road to where we deserve to be.

 
Let’s hope this is the case. Obviously less kids playing football with all the head injuries reported, but it’s going to be a long time before the sport is totally changed I think. I think I said it in previous threads, but football drives the bus now but things change. Let’s hope 20 years from now b-ball is driving the bus.
You have to be a young guy to be looking ahead 20 years.
 
My hope based on head trauma. I think the most likely future is less kids playing but enough to feed the college ranks. The number of schools participating will be significantly reduced. The payoff to them could be huge if the NFL continues to use universities as a developmental league.

What sport, if any, that people in this country turn to fill the void is anyone’s guess. It could be basketball but I wouldn’t rule out soccer or computer gaming.
I think you're right about less kids playing, and it will be very regional with football being even more of a southern sport than it is already. New England football will be pretty limited.
 
You have to be a young guy to be looking ahead 20 years.

Mid 30’s, so yeah i hope in 20 years our b-ball program is thriving and the athletic department is in a better position. I realize the baby boomer generation tends to only care about themselves, but I personally think it’d be cool to see my kids and grandkids enjoy watching a successful UConn program in the future. I’m hopeful that this will work out for UConn, but fearful that our senior citizen Board of Trustees just wants to re-live their glory days for few more years before they kick the bucket. I’ll cross my fingers and hope for the best for the program.
 
So so much for getting a break if we leave the conference in the future for P5 chance. Well I'm happy to be in the Big East again but it comes at a great cost.
 
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So so much for getting a break if we leave the conference in the future for P5 chance. Well I'm happy to be in the Big East again but it comes at a great cost.
Based on the timeline of a potential P5 expansion, it'd cost $15m to leave. That's not an outrageous number considering what we'd be making. I think this deal was pretty well negotiated on both sides.
 
My hope based on head trauma. I think the most likely future is less kids playing but enough to feed the college ranks. The number of schools participating will be significantly reduced. The payoff to them could be huge if the NFL continues to use universities as a developmental league.

What sport, if any, that people in this country turn to fill the void is anyone’s guess. It could be basketball but I wouldn’t rule out soccer or computer gaming.
God, I hope I’m dead before football becomes an after thought in this country, especially in exchange for soccer!?!?. It’s already so soft nowadays I hardly recognize it from the sport I grew up loving. Legit one of my biggest fears for the future.

I’m a UConn Men’s B-ball fan solely, but football is my heart.
 
Hurley can talk now right!? Need Hurley interview ASAP!
 
This has got to be viewed as a stepping stone and not a final destination. When that next press conference comes, hopefully in a few short years, I'll gladly admit that this was the right move.
Stepping stone to what? A P-5 invite? We waited for one, it didn't happen then the football program went further into the toilet.
I'm still disappointed that a P-5 invite didn't happen and maybe that landscape will change in the future but right now a move to the BE makes the most sense.
 
Stepping stone to what? A P-5 invite? We waited for one, it didn't happen then the football program went further into the toilet.
I'm still disappointed that a P-5 invite didn't happen and maybe that landscape will change in the future but right now a move to the BE makes the most sense.
Yes, a place at the P-5 table. We're better than the Big East. We're UConn.
 
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I think you're right about less kids playing, and it will be very regional with football being even more of a southern sport than it is already. New England football will be pretty limited.
And if we’re correct football will no longer drive the college sports bus. There won’t be enough teams to provide content. But before that happens there will be a contraction to six conferences with a similar number of schools per conference as currently exists.

It’s this period of time, if I’m correct, that the decision to leave the AAC could haunt the university sports wise. But that would require someone to prove the football team could have improved significantly before this next round. Good luck trying to prove that to any basketball fan. I’m not sure what percentage of football fans believe this. However if the worst case scenario happens a significant number of fans will direct their anger towards Susan Herbst for this decision.
 
Yes, a place at the P-5 table. We're better than the Big East. We're UConn.

Ok can we can put a nice little bow on this:

We are UConn, which is better than the Big East, which better than the AAC.

You’re going to say: “in basketball”

And I’m here to tell you that UConn basketball in the big east and an independent football program will one day be more enticing to a P5 conference than remaining in the Big East.

It is better for the brand.
 
Ok can we can put a nice little bow on this:

We are UConn, which is better than the Big East, which better than the AAC.

You’re going to say: “in basketball”

And I’m here to tell you that UConn basketball in the big east and an independent football program will one day be more enticing to a P5 conference than remaining in the Big East.

It is better for the brand.
You should have stopped before "in basketball". We're a better university academically. We're a better university athletically. We have more accomplishments and more potential than any other school in the Big East, and this is across-the-board.
 
God, I hope I’m dead before football becomes an after thought in this country, especially in exchange for soccer!?!?. It’s already so soft nowadays I hardly recognize it from the sport I grew up loving. Legit one of my biggest fears for the future.

I’m a UConn Men’s B-ball fan solely, but football is my heart.
Not likely to be an afterthought for some time. More a not my kid is going to play which will greatly reduce the pool of players. The majority of parents who refuse to allow their own will have no problem watching someone else’s kid get his body destroyed. There will be enough desperate families who want the golden goose as well as regions of the country that consider it badge of manhood to ignore the consequences football has on the body to continue football for quite some time. It just might not be the number one sport.
 
We need to know the specifics on the media deal first before jumping to conclusions. We need to understand why our administration made this move to the Big East. They must have made an agreement with SNY for football and tier-3 rights. After paying all these exit and entry fees, we better be ahead in the new media deal as far as total payout and exposure.

Playing INDY in football is not the end of the world if we can line up decent opponents and have some kind of bowl we can go to at end of a good season.
 
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