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Britney Griner is not and will never be the greatest player ever. She may become the greatest center ever, but she will never be the greatest. Names like Miller, Taurasi, and Parker come to mind. D won 3 titles in college, the last two with a cast of very good players but not one that was great or near great. She's also won WNBA titles, Olympic Gold Medals, and overseas championships. D is the greatest.

Griner will eventually be the greatest ever, IMO. She will have more impact on both ends of the court than any player ever has or ever will. Just my opinion.

Will be interesting to see who has the bigger game when EDD and Fowles face BG and DT in their meeting in May.
 

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Pretty much my point - I can see why the opposing coach was upset. 1 dunk okay but 3 dumks against a very overmatched opponent...not cool imo and just less impressive then if she Had she dunked against UConn.
yeah I would've been un happy yet understanding in such a highly fought game.

I understand it's the last home game etcetera etcetera...

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A bit of a sexist view. Would anyone question three dunks in a men's game? It's a Div I playoff game. That coach should put her big girl panties on and quit getting her "feelings" hurt.
 

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I think this is an interesting question and the only thing certain to me is the answer being uncertain. I think it fair to compare Griner to Abdul-Jabbar in terms of their dominant impact on the game. Yet no one talks about Jabbar as the best ever, though we can forgive ETT his homerism. Either Jordan or now James is most often lifted up in that best ever category, though perhaps Kibitzer might throw Russell into that consideration as well. As for Jordan and James, EDD comes closest to their skill sets, Diggins comes closest to their will and toughness. For that matter, let's toss Magic into the discussion. Jabbar goes down, no problem. Johnson just takes over playing center for him. Johnson goes down and that Lakers team is sunk.

Griner will likely be joining Taurasi, very comparable to Jabbar and Johnson teaming up together. In a sense that will get in the way of the comparisons. I expect Phoenix to be very hard to beat with that combination and obviously it won't be just because Griner carries them. On the other hand, if the EDD or Diggins teams perform at the same level as Phoenix, that likely favors the comparison of either player over Griner. In a sense, by teaming up with Taurasi, Griner is in a no-win situation in terms of ever being considered best player ever. It will not be until those two are apart that Griner will get best ever consideration if she deserves it.

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EDD's performance was gritty, although not very efficient at 35% FG shooting. The last time Griner shot that many shots she dropped 50.
 
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Greatest ever. Taurasi, Catchings, Moore, Miller, Leslie.

Griner has a long way to go.

Heck, and that's not even accounting for Sheryl Swoopes, Tina Thompson, and Lauren Jackson, among others.
 

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Greatest ever. Taurasi, Catchings, Moore, Miller, Leslie.

Griner has a long way to go.

And many years to get there. That's why I used the word "will." BG will win many, many more titles. It's a bit silly for someone to compare the career accomplishments of others to that of a college senior.

Catchings, one of my all-time favs, has one NCAA and WNBA title to her credit. And that NCAA title came on Holdsclaw's coattails.
 

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Hopefully she has many healthy years to carve out her place in history. All I know is that she is the most dominant player I've ever seen play college ball.
 

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Two of the three are 3,000 point career scorers. Skylar is not, but she led her team to 7 out of 8 against UConn.

Griner could be one one of all-time greats. Let's see how she does against Tina, Big Syl, Cambage, et al. Her college career was stellar, but will include "only" 1 or 2 NCs.

EDD will be very good. In the right situation, she will be great. If she ever encounters a defense that plays her straight up, she should prosper. But I still think she needs to get stronger to play inside. She's not Lauren Jackson, not yet.

I don't like Skylar, but I'll try to be objective. I think she'll be a good/very good PG and could be an All-Star after a few years. I look for a lot of TOs initially.

If healthy and a 10-year career, I see BG being an All-Star 8-10 times, Elena 4-8 times, and Skylar 2-5 times. All-Star is defined as being selected for the game, not just as a starter.
 

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Heck, and that's not even accounting for Sheryl Swoopes, Tina Thompson, and Lauren Jackson, among others.
I meant to include Swoopes but slipped up.
 

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Griner has a much better supporting cast

Exactly. Some of EDD's shots were forced in the first half because nothing else was working. EDD's off-balance buzzer beating 3-point shot going into half was a thing of beauty. Goodness, I love her game.
 
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Griner will eventually be the greatest ever, IMO. She will have more impact on both ends of the court than any player ever has or ever will. Just my opinion.

Will be interesting to see who has the bigger game when EDD and Fowles face BG and DT in their meeting in May.
Griner has height, not great at anything on the basketball floor. Please recognize the difference. I tower over my waste basket, and never miss, but, does that make me great at something. Your opinions must be appreciated, I am sure.
 
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Hopefully she has many healthy years to carve out her place in history. All I know is that she is the most dominant player I've ever seen play college ball.
I would like to see her dominate the next olympics, or maybe she will have some reason not to go?? It will be interesting.
 
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For the record it was 34 minutes, not 38. Hartley played 32 minutes in a 68 point blowout, and I have no problem with that. It's tourney time and time for the starters to do their thing. However, Baylor had 8 players who logged 12 minutes or more.

(Sigh) Not even close to the same thing.

UConn only dressed nine players for the Idaho game (Banks - knee, Stewart - calf), so doing the math it looks to me that if they pulled all the starters they were going to come up one player short (which actually might have worked for this game.)

As it was UConn’s bench players averaged over 20 minutes each (only Heather Buck was under 20), so essentially they played an entire half. But since there were only nine players, at least one of the starters was going to be on the floor at all times, and given Hartley’s woes of late, she would be the logical choice for some extra minutes to help her work out of that funk.


That’s completely different thing from leaving Griner in for 34 minutes, Madden for 32, and Sims for 29. Baylor may have had eight players over 12 minutes but they also had five players with 8 minutes or less – Heather had more minutes than three of Baylor’s players combined.

It’s definitely not the same thing.
 
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Quite frankly, I am sick of seeing the "3 to see".

Thank goodness – I thought I was the only one that had more than enough of the ”3 to See”…

As far as the original question, I have to go with EDD.

As has been already posted, Diggins may not even be the best player on her team, although she will undoubtedly dazzle opponents next year in the WNBA with her wide variety of hair bands, hairdos, and pouts. And she’s almost certainly going to set a rookie record for tweets. But as a player, I doubt that she’s going to dominate. There’s a very simple litmus test named Kelly Faris and Diggins was not the Notre Dame player that beat Kelly consistently.

As for Griner, she is dominant, but that’s as much due to sheer physical size as skills; truth be told, if she was “only” 6’5” or 6’4” we’re probably not having this conversation; her passing game is limited as is her range. But she is that tall, and she has worked to develop her game and take advantage of what she has physically, and she is the dominant player in college.

Still, Delle Donne can do almost everything, and do it well. She has a far more complete offensive skill set – she can post up, she can play facing the basket, she certainly has a long range shot – an excellent long range shot, she can pass, dribble, pull up, and even dunk. And as mentioned before, she doesn’t have the surrounding cast that Griner has, so she spends far more time being double and triple-triple-teamed while she’s doing those things and she still succeeds.

When they both get to the WNBA (or the overseas leagues) Delle Donne is going to bring a far more complete set of offensive skills, while Griner is going to have less of a physical advantage – the women at the pro level are going to be taller, stronger and faster than what she’s faced in college to this point. Besides the late Margo Dydek there have been at least five other players 6’8” or taller and a whole slew of players 6’5” or greater. Griner may be a better player than any of them, but the margin between her and everyone else is going to be much slimmer than it is at the college level; she’s not going to be the best ever.

There is supposedly a quote from Ernie Delle Donne, to the effect that had his daughter stayed at UConn, Connecticut would have had two more national championships. That’s not an entirely unrealistic assessment; this weekend as we watch her play the early game, imagine what she would have added to what the Huskies already had over the last couple of years.

(And then remember that Breanna is bringing much the same raw skill set now, and that the Elena Delle Donne we’ll be watching this weekend may well be the Breanna Stewart we’ll be seeing three years from now. That's a good thing - a very good thing)
 

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Delle Donne has health problems that could very well affect her pro career.
 

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I would like to see her dominate the next olympics, or maybe she will have some reason not to go?? It will be interesting.

I get it. You're not a fan and you obviously have something to say that you are more comfortable hinting at.

In the words of Kenny Rogers, I "gotta know when to walk away."
 
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I would like to see her dominate the next olympics, or maybe she will have some reason not to go?? It will be interesting.
It's discouraging to see this kind on innuendo appear here when there is absolutely no evidence to support the assumption. This isn't The Summitt.
 

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It's discouraging to see this kind on innuendo appear here when there is absolutely no evidence to support the assumption. This isn't The Summitt.

Agreed. A true sign of ignorance. Many who lack any particular skill or ability find it necessary to tear down others who do in order to feel better about themselves.
 
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Agreed. A true sign of ignorance. Many who lack any particular skill or ability find it necessary to tear down others who do in order to feel better about themselves.
I guess we will have to wait for the next olympics to see who is ignorant. I did not state anything that did not happen.
 
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Griner is so far away from the being the best player ever that I'm not sure why we're having this debate yet?

It could very well happen, but this is a conversation we should be having in 5-10 years - not before she's ever played a pro/Olympic game.
 
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