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8893 said:
I agree, but I'm curious where you think he will be used correctly. I get the sense that he's not the best teammate.
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Not sure I really agree with that, that's always the narrative from the media but all of his teammates say they love him. The Browns offense was never a good fit, especially with Baker at QB. He needs to go to a team with a downfield passing game, not a run focused offense with all short passes. Hard to say who will claim him but New Orleans and the Chargers jump out at me. I doubt he makes it that far down the waiver order though
 
The best path to winning in the NFL is to max out the years when your QB is on a rookie deal and you can stack other positions. Cleveland made a bad gamble and it, in part, cost them their window with Baker on a cheap deal. As a Steelers fan, I can’t tell you how this breaks my heart.
 
8893 said:
I agree, but I'm curious where you think he will be used correctly. I get the sense that he's not the best teammate.
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That quote reminds me of the women's board.
 
8893 said:
I agree, but I'm curious where you think he will be used correctly. I get the sense that he's not the best teammate.
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With Brady, of course. Brady turned Antonio Brown into a respectable citizen.

Of course, having Odell and Antonio together is probably a bad idea. Even Brady can only do so much.
 
navery12 said:
Not sure I really agree with that, that's always the narrative from the media but all of his teammates say they love him. The Browns offense was never a good fit, especially with Baker at QB. He needs to go to a team with a downfield passing game, not a run focused offense with all short passes. Hard to say who will claim him but New Orleans and the Chargers jump out at me. I doubt he makes it that far down the waiver order though
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Waquoit said:
That quote reminds me of the women's board.
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I'll try to be more clear about what I mean: I think he's a singularly great talent who is also nuts and ultimately has a bad net effect on a team because it always comes down to an inordinate focus on him. I mean his father was posting video compilations to cast blame on his starting QB and Lebron was petitioning for him to be freed. Quite a distraction, to put it mildly.

I loved watching him on the field for the Giants, but I grew tired of watching him off it--especially when he was stalking the sidelines while muttering.

But this is the NFL, where dysfunction is probably more tolerated than any other major sport, so you are right that he will probably find a place and be making highlight-reel catches again before long.
 
storrsroars said:
With Brady, of course. Brady turned Antonio Brown into a respectable citizen.

Of course, having Odell and Antonio together is probably a bad idea. Even Brady can only do so much.
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You've piqued my interest. I bet this ends up working.
 
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8893 said:
I'll try to be more clear about what I mean: I think he's a singularly great talent who is also nuts and ultimately has a bad net effect on a team because it always comes down to an inordinate focus on him. I mean his father was posting video compilations to cast blame on his starting QB and Lebron was petitioning for him to be freed. Quite a distraction, to put it mildly.

I loved watching him on the field for the Giants, but I grew tired of watching him off it--especially when he was stalking the sidelines while muttering.

But this is the NFL, where dysfunction is probably more tolerated than any other major sport, so you are right that he will probably find a place and be making highlight-reel catches again before long.
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I can see him landing on a contender and making a difference. Will be interesting!
 
He has always valued making the highlight catch or having puffy individual stats over winning or making the plays needed to win games. He's selfish. He's a bad teammate and he doesn't make his teams better. Aside from all of that, he can't stay healthy anymore and his body is giving out on him. He won't push any contending team to the next level.
 
Honestly I think becoming a celebrity and sudden fashion interest over one catch and dyed hair got to him a little. Then you add in the injury. I certainly won’t go so far as to call him selfish as plenty of idiots love to reflexively; but maybe he makes the business decision to be more interested in his more long-term options for being relevant and continuing strong income post-NFL (which is coming in a few years regardless), and may not be a huge contributor for his last contract. It is telling that he’s causing this fuss over actual football-related things though. We’ll see how he acts when he gets a new deal, and with whom he signs
 
ClifSpliffy said:
hmm, UConn men and the g men both get real, end the circus, and begin their return to excellance around the same time....noice. bye bye p.t. beckham, and
good riddance.
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'bye bye p.t. beckham, and
good riddance.'

good riddance. was that succinct enuf for youse?

and to complete the 'back up the truck' analysis, darnold was a joke the minute the nyets even thought aboot his selection (as stated then- too short) and..................... danny is a keeper, also stated on day one. to be fair, since winning is the only thing, some giant fans may not agree. im confident in waiting for the clarity on that one.
i think that sometimes the yuge gap in understanding here aboot playas in sports, is the lack of folks who actually play hoops, and such. the gap, regarding the difference between team success and individual talent, fogs the mind. what's a 'bad injury' for an armchair qb? you knocked over the beer bottle? and oh, upon further review, the gmen got max value for his act then.
the 'p.t.' stated refers to ol phineas taylor beckham, the carnival barker.

next up? tampa/sf/la wins the series! (i mean, it's not like the braves haven't spent the past few seasons building a team that might catch lightning in a bottle?). typo wins the nba all star game weekend dunk and 3 pt contests! newsflash, playing is sooo much different than gaming, cuz you might actually break a bone, or at least, stretch a muscle. and i don't mean the strain of ur index finger from hitting the mouse click button.
 
I'm a Browns fan. I have watched every play since he was traded for. His tenure has been injuries, bad drops in big situations, untimely penalties, some drama. Him and Baker got along well off the field until recently. OBJ's Dad sending that video and insinuating that Baker purposely doesnt throw him the ball is garbage. He leads the team in targets despite missing a few games. The offense is RB and TE centric, but regardless of that, Baker and OBJ just never got on same page on the field. Baker has a much higher passer rating with everyone else on the team and quite frankly, Baker has been better without him the last few years, the offense has been better without him, and the team has been better without him. OBJ was great against Dallas last year. Outside of a few other plays, not much. Baker isn't a top QB and the system isn't great for WR's(why Diggs wanted out of Minny), but still chemistry was off. It's like OBJ was a bad penny. Maybe the fact that he didn't participate in off season stuff and was always missing training camp with injuries....anyway, common knowledge he was getting waived this coming offseason anyway. The Browns weren't paying 15 mil for him next year.
 

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He wants his cake and eat it too, while he is an immense talent, he allows his ego get in the way.
It's getting to the point where I think so many GMs are saying he isn't worth it
He will end up somewhere but the pickings will be slim
Too Bad
 
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I Bleed Blue said:
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Hope not, and I doubt he'd be interested. They're not good enough to take on someone like that and, honestly, I'm enjoying watching them improve (I hate saying stuff like this but they could pretty easily be 6-2 right now) and I would not want him to derail it.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Hope not, and I doubt he'd be interested. They're not good enough to take on someone like that and, honestly, I'm enjoying watching them improve (I hate saying stuff like this but they could pretty easily be 6-2 right now) and I would not want him to derail it.
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I mostly agree, although I want to see Bill and Josh take that next step with Mac leading the offense beyond him being a game manager. A healthy OBJ would bring an explosive element to the offense which it currently lacks. I think we could use that stud who commands attention from the defense. Whether it's OBJ or not is the question.
 
I Bleed Blue said:
I mostly agree, although I want to see Bill and Josh take that next step with Mac leading the offense beyond him being a game manager. A healthy OBJ would bring an explosive element to the offense which it currently lacks. I think we could use that stud who commands attention from the defense. Whether it's OBJ or not is the question.
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Yeah my post was ambiguous and for some reason I can't edit it. I meant OBJ wouldn't be interested. I'd expect him to end up in Los Angeles.
 
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Odell's window is closing fairly rapidly. He needs to focus. Asking a leopard to change his spots may be too big an ask. It is up to him to face reality.
 
superjohn said:
The only problem is that the Giants couldn't get him the ball. He will absolutely light the league up next season. Giants are a clown show.
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You have some real doozys in this thread, I assume football isn't a sport you watch much?
 
navery12 said:
Best for everyone involved to move on. OBJ can go somewhere he's used correctly and Cleveland can move on without the headache
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It is not an issue of usage. Not even remotely.
 
OBJ is not a star anymore. He definitely can be a serviceable receiver when healthy. The issue is OBJ can't deal with being just a piece on a team, he thinks he needs to be the guy. That time, unfortunately for him, has past.
 
Super Bowl teams are not built around high priced WRs. Let alone ones whose drops have increased over the years, whose production declined and injuries increased in his last two years with the Giants, not to mention the penalties, and the drama and crying and whining. The move to trade Odell was smart at the time the Giants made it. Dumbest thing the Giants did was pay him what they did and then trade him leading to a big dead cap. As a Giants fan I have not missed him for one second, I am sure Browns fans exactly the same way. Let him be someone else's problem.
 
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Put him with a real QB and he will produce. As a Raiders fan, I want no part of him. I would love to see him in Baltimore.
 
Both Jake Trotter and Aditi K. have revealed in reports today that part of the problem with OBJ was that he freelanced on his routes instead of running the route of the designed play. This led to a lack of confidence and trust from Baker that Odell was gonna be where he was supposed to be. Led to a lot of double clutches and second guessing that led to Baker holding the ball too long and taking sacks. Miscommunications became commonplace. Trotter points out in his article a Denver game a couple years ago where Baker took heat cuz OBJ was open at end of game. Problem was OBJ ran the wrong route and Baker couldn't throw the ball because he didn't know where the rest of Odell's route was going. He was supposed to criss cross with Landry across the middle and instead took the route up the field. The Browns, Baker and Odell are all better off with this split. Bad fit all the way around. Maybe both are better off and both have success. I get OBJ is frustrated. Been a pretty big fall from grace and he is not getting any younger. With that said, the drama(never contacted his QB after his father posted stuff) and also said "come get me" to teams last year. He even kept wearing illegal cleats and was pulled out of the game by refs. Stuff adds up. It's all not worth it for a guy who is injured half the time, drops way too many routine passes, freelances, etc..As a Browns fan I so wanted it to work but enough is enough. Now watch him go somewhere and tear it up. All part of being a Browns fan.
 
storrsroars said:
With Brady, of course. Brady turned Antonio Brown into a respectable citizen.

Of course, having Odell and Antonio together is probably a bad idea. Even Brady can only do so much.
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storrsroars said:
With Brady, of course. Brady turned Antonio Brown into a respectable citizen.

Of course, having Odell and Antonio together is probably a bad idea. Even Brady can only do so much.
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Can't happen. I have Evans and Godwin on my FF team...on top of Brown, this would not help.
 
sports.yahoo.com

There’s a chance for more Odell Beckham Jr. drama as he heads to waivers

For teams that might have interest in Beckham, his stance behind the scenes is clear: the wideout wants to clear waivers and ultimately go to free agency and choose his next destination.
sports.yahoo.com sports.yahoo.com

For those teams that might have interest in claiming Beckham, his stance behind the scenes is clear: The wideout doesn’t want to be selected. He wants to clear waivers and ultimately go to free agency and choose his next destination. If a team selects him off waivers, it will be against Beckham’s wishes, which isn’t going to make for a good union the remainder of this season.
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Why would any good team take a chance on this guy?
 
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