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mauconnfan said:
No Betances for me no way. He's the best 3rd baseman defensively period, but away from home not a greta hitter. Good news is his HR totals are not much different which is amazing - 20/21 split actually. Like him but all farmhands to me.
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I like Betances, but I think Arenado is special. Keep in mind that Yankee is an extreme hitter's park too. I do think he's a better road hitter than what he posted in 2018, but even if he's not, he is very likely to put up tremendous home splits if his home park is Yankee. His numbers are very well repeatable if you take him away from Coors and plop him here. Add in the fact that he'd have someone like Judge or Stanton likely hitting before and behind him, and his counting stats also stay very high. Add in gold glove defense and a lunchpail dirt dog kind of guy and he's a no-brainer. But yeah, if they can trade for him without trading Betances, that would be ideal...even if Betances walks after this season.
 
Dooley said:
Neither would I - Andujar, Betances, and a few prospects for Arenado. Done deal...just have to let Cashman know!
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I'm one who would not trade Andujar. Too much talent to dismiss so soon. His defense will improve.

Now trade Grey and get a good young catcher and you put Sanchez in the package.
 
Dooley said:
I like Betances, but I think Arenado is special. Keep in mind that Yankee is an extreme hitter's park too. I do think he's a better road hitter than what he posted in 2018, but even if he's not, he is very likely to put up tremendous home splits if his home park is Yankee. His numbers are very well repeatable if you take him away from Coors and plop him here. Add in the fact that he'd have someone like Judge or Stanton likely hitting before and behind him, and his counting stats also stay very high. Add in gold glove defense and a lunchpail dirt dog kind of guy and he's a no-brainer. But yeah, if they can trade for him without trading Betances, that would be ideal...even if Betances walks after this season.
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And the Yanks don't need another HR guy, they already have Judge and Stanton along with Sanchez (assuming he's not traded) and decent pop with Hicks and Didi. They needs guys who get on base to maximize the damage when the big bats do their work or to generate runs the old fashion way when they don't.
 
Wouldn't complain about getting Arenado but you dont trade a haul for him when he will be a FA anyways you trade a haul for a bonafide ace.
 
I think the thought is that they'd trade for him and then sign him to a longer term extension. The trade would essentially allow the Yanks to get a jump on the market. The way the free agent market has cooled to Ice Age levels in the last 2 years, an extension before he hits free agency is certainly on the table.
 
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Mr. Conehead said:
Well, the bullpen is going to be loaded again as the Yanks reportedly signed Ottavino for $27 million over 3 years.

Sources: Yankees, Ottavino reach 3-year deal

So, is that it or will the Yanks swing a trade for another stater and is there money left for any other big signings, such as Harper or Macahdo.
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Always happy to add a live arm. Just hoping the whole, "I'd strike out Babe Ruth" thing isn't going to turn into Denham Brown's 100-point game. Just don't want to hear about every time he comes in a game.
 
Sports salaries are insane. Sonny Gray - that Sonny Gray - is going to get 30 million stupid dollars from the Reds over 3 years. Whitey Ford (still with us) knows he was born 70 years too soon.
 
I’m curious to see if gray regains his prior form (and is a bargain at this rate) or if he is the righty version of Scott Kazmir.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Looks like the deal for Gray to the Reds is done, a draft pick and the previously mentioned 2B prospect is coming to the Yanks.

Yankees ‘finalizing’ Sonny Gray to Reds | What it means
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The Gray deal was tied-up while the Red negotiated an extension for Gray, which appears to be done. What's odd, is that the Yanks flipped the 2B prospect they got from Cincinati, Long, to Seattle for an OF prospect, Josh Stowers. I did not know that the Yanks also shipped an 'unranked' pitching prospect, Reiver Sanmartin, which I guess was a match for the '2019 Competitive Balance Round A draft pick' that Yanks also got from the Reds.

Yankees trade Sonny Gray to Reds, then trade prospect to Mariners for outfielder | What it means

Separately, the Yanks signed Danny Farquhar, a former relief pitcher from the White Sox, to a minor league contract. He's the guy who almost died in the White Sox dugout last April after suffering a ruptured brain aneurysm. I'm just happy he's alive to sign a baseball contract in 2019, regardless of the team.

Yankees adding bullpen depth by signing brain hemorrhage survivor
 
The Yankees moves are setting up a battle of approaches, not just teams. The Red Sox are going to be starter focused, the Yanks pen focused. Boone will have his work cut out managing all the bullpen arms.
 
Smart move in the Gray deal. Yanks got a good price.

And they can use some of their newly acquired assets for another starter later on if they want to.
 
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Isn’t Ellsburys deal one less year?

Plus potential insurance money if he can’t play?

Sounds like a nice salary dump. Maybe sf can get prospects, even if not good ones
 
Interesting rumor. Not sure about getting Cueto. Doesn't help the pitching until late in the season provided the arm is healthy.

Its good if Cashman is talking ot the Giants. Maybe some one else besides Cueto emerges.
 
huskeynut said:
Interesting rumor. Not sure about getting Cueto. Doesn't help the pitching until late in the season provided the arm is healthy.

Its good if Cashman is talking ot the Giants. Maybe some one else besides Cueto emerges.
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The Yanks may need pitching help (again) in 2020 with CC retiring and Tananka a pitch away from Tommy John himself. At this rate, I would take a just about anything to get rid of Ellsbury.
 
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Have to really be impressed with the level of ineptitude from the Marlins. Joel Sherman made an excellent point - a few months ago, there was talk about a 3-team trade that involved Thor, G Sanchez and Andujar with Realmuto going to the Mets. They somehow went from that to accepting an offer that netted them a SP with durability concerns and no real secondary pitches and a AAAA catcher.

"I thank the Good Lord for not making me a Marlins fan," - Joe DiMaggio, probably.
 
And out of left field, there's a rumor circulating that the Yankees have offered Machado $220 Million; but the duration of the offer and any opt-outs are not known. If this is true and Manny takes it, they Yanks are not done making deals as they would have a logjam at 3B or 1B (assuming their long-term plan is not to play Machado at SS), depending what the Yanks see as the future for Andujar.

MLB rumors: Yankees offer Manny Machado $220 million? What it means
 
Mr. Conehead said:
And out of left field, there's a rumor circulating that the Yankees have offered Machado $220 Million; but the duration of the offer and any opt-outs are not known. If this is true and Manny takes it, they Yanks are not done making deals as they would have a logjam at 3B or 1B (assuming their long-term plan is not to play Machado at SS), depending what the Yanks see as the future for Andujar.

MLB rumors: Yankees offer Manny Machado $220 million? What it means
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It’s too much of a discount to not consider.
 
Agree. A 7 or 8 year deal with a higher AAV makes sense for the club. Doesn't seem like anyone is willing to do a decade contract for either Manny or Harper. If the offers are all in the 7/8 year range, it'll come down to where Harper/Manny want to play, not where whoever offers the most dollars. Of course, if Philadelphia or the White Sox give in and offer 10 years, they'll sign there.
 
Dooley said:
Agree. A 7 or 8 year deal with a higher AAV makes sense for the club. Doesn't seem like anyone is willing to do a decade contract for either Manny or Harper. If the offers are all in the 7/8 year range, it'll come down to where Harper/Manny want to play, not where whoever offers the most dollars. Of course, if Philadelphia or the White Sox give in and offer 10 years, they'll sign there.
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I think teams want value for each season signed. Why pay a guy 22 million in year 6 if you project 22 homers and 80 rbi? That is probably, by today's measures, a 14 million value.

Thanks Albert Pujols.
 
Good move for all parties, $40 million over 4 years with a 5th year option for $12.5 million taking Severino to age 29. He's a rising star; but, still needs to prove he can be the #1 starter for an entire season and through the playoffs. It's reasonable money and avoid an ugly fight.

Yankees, Luis Severino agree to contract | How much money? What it means

The rotation overall will likely look different in 3 years with CC likely retired and Tanaka's contract expiring in 2 years. So, the guys down on the farm have 2 years to prove themselves or the Yanks will go shopping again.
 
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Mr. Conehead said:
Good move for all parties, $40 million over 4 years with a 5th year option for $12.5 million taking Severino to age 29. He's a rising star; but, still needs to proce he can be the #1 starter for an entire season and trhough the playoffs. It's reasonable money and avoid an ugly fight.

Yankees, Luis Severino agree to contract | How much money? What it means

The rotaion overall will likley look different in 3 years with CC likley retired and Tanaka's contract expiring in 2 years. So, the gusy down on the farm have 2 years to prove themselves or the Yanks will go shopping again.
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That convo will happen in 2 years.

Don’t forget Paxton will be a fa by then too
 
billythekid said:
CC announced that he is retiring after the season. He should be finish the season with over 3000 strikeouts and 250 wins along with a Cy Young and World Series championship. Sure fire Hall of Famer?
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The number are close; but, his dominance in the playoffs and his ability at the end of his carer to transformer himself from a flamethrower to a finesse pitcher speaks of his longevity and baseball IQ, so I say yes It won't be the first ballot, though.
 
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Very team friendly deal for Severino considering the Yanks are buying a free agency year at what could provide plenty of surplus value. On the heels of Severino and Nola signing extensions, I wonder if the MLBPA will begin to be proactive and advise their members not to negotiate these types of team friendly deals like Severino's. At least not while there are dozens of MLB quality free agents who can't find jobs outside of clubs' algorithms.

CC - definitely a HOF career but I agree with @Mr. Conehead, not a first ballot (I think).
 
Dooley said:
Very team friendly deal for Severino considering the Yanks are buying a free agency year at what could provide plenty of surplus value. On the heels of Severino and Nola signing extensions, I wonder if the MLBPA will begin to be proactive and advise their members not to negotiate these types of team friendly deals like Severino's. At least not while there are dozens of MLB quality free agents who can't find jobs outside of clubs' algorithms.

CC - definitely a HOF career but I agree with @Mr. Conehead, not a first ballot (I think).
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I’m far more curious about guys like Arenado.

I don’t blame pitchers getting their money ASAP. They’re one injury away from being almost worthless or at least just vagabonds.

See a guy like Tyson Ross who had thoracic outlet in his walk year and missed out on any high 8-9 figure deal.

Or even Matt Harvey.
 
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