NY Yankees 2019

[Dooley]

I got great seats at petco from a friend.

It’s an amazing park.

I haven’t been to that many though.

Fenway
Old yankee stadium
Metrodome
Camden yards
Nationals park
Petco

I still haven't been to Camden either. I know that's holy land for baseball fans to visit. I keep flirting with the idea of hopping on an Acela and going down for a random night game. Or maybe extend a weekend so I can catch a Camden/Nationals Park schedule changeover.

My retirement dream is to rent a RV and Clark Griswold a summer stopping at every ballpark along the way. My wife will enjoy it as long as I take her to see the world's 4th largest ball of mud.

 

[the Q]

Yea there would be some heartache for the last few years of the deal.

Would make trading bird and voit easy decisions.

Cano would be a more expensive Murphy. Although maybe not as much when you offset the money owed to ellsbury.

It’s at least an idea worth kicking around.

Might use bird or voit In a deal to land a Brandon belt too.

 

[the Q]

I still haven't been to Camden either. I know that's holy land for baseball fans to visit. I keep flirting with the idea of hopping on an Acela and going down for a random night game. Or maybe extend a weekend so I can catch a Camden/Nationals Park schedule changeover.

My retirement dream is to rent a RV and Clark Griswold a summer stopping at every ballpark along the way. My wife will enjoy it as long as I take her to see the world's 4th largest ball of mud.

Camden is a rock solid park.

Definitely get boogs bbq. It’s fantastic.

I liked nationals park a lot. I sat in the cheap seats in lf and still had a great view.

I may never go back to Camden yards since the only game I saw there was the last day of the 2011 season

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Impressive list. Lots of west ballparks in here. Have you been to Petco Park (San Diego)? That's the only Pacific park I've been to. I liked it...was fortunate to watch a few innings from the top floor of the warehouse in LF before making my way down to my LF bleacher seats. It was a Sunday too so lots of Marines in the crowd. Really a cool atmosphere.

I need to get to PNC and AT&T. No excuse for PNC...that's a quick little drive and I actually have family fairly close by. AT&T is like a painting, it's so beautiful from TV. Would love to catch a game out there!

Thanks. I actually forgot include Camden Yards as I keep thinking its Yankee Stadium Central due to all of the Yanks fans who go to those games (Tampa is Yankee Staduim South and I know the Red Sox treat both teh same way, too). Of, it coudl have been the tequalia tasting I did that night with some work colleagues. I have heard good things about PetCo, too. For me, the next two are Nationals Park and City Field. I actually had tickets to a Nats game last year; but Mother Nature did not cooperate. People rave about City Field; but, as a guy from Jersey, I dread the two river crossings. I also want to get to Target Field the next time I trek out to see family in MSP. I do go to Atlanta a lot for work; but, the city for some reason built Sun Trust miles away from the nearest MARTA Station. The A's (again) and the Rangers I beleive are talking about new stadiums, too.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

My retirement dream is to rent a RV and Clark Griswold a summer stopping at every ballpark along the way. My wife will enjoy it as long as I take her to see the world's 4th largest ball of mud.

My wife would love it if I was out of her hair for 4 months doing the same, LOL. Trying to talk her into a trip to the Gulf Coast in the Spring of 2019. I promised her she can sit her pretty litlte arse on the beach for a few days of peace & quiet while I take my boys to Tampa (Yankees) and Ft. Myers (Red Sox, my oldest on is a Sox fan ) for some Spring Baseball. We're arleady scheduled to spend a week in Cooperstown for my oldest son's 12U tournament in the summer.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Back to these rumors.

As for rumor 2 - I love it. Would hate to part with Sheffield but would do it to acquire an arm like Paxton (or Kluber or Carrasco). The price tag is so cost effective that a trade for Paxton wouldn't prevent the Yanks from also signing Corbin (5 years) and Happ (maybe 2 but probably 3 years). Now of a sudden, the rotation would be: Severino, Paxton, Corbin, Happ, Tanaka. CC is the long man and hope for late season innings out of Montgomery (although not likely). That's a very good rotation to pair up with the already strong bullpen. They'd also have more chips to liquidate at the trade deadline should any 25 man roster holes emerge during the season, either from poor play or injuries. I would pull the trigger on that one instantly. Then deal off Gray for a MI or CI. Or maybe convert him to a long relief guy. Maybe he boosts his trade stock or turns into a weapon out of the pen.

I like the rotation. But, my concern is over the long-term. There is a lot of pitching talent and depth in the Yankees farm system right now beyond Sheffield. What happens to them? Its a good problem to have.

 

[Dooley]

My wife would love it if I was out of her hair for 4 months doing the same, LOL. Trying to talk her into a trip to the Gulf Coast in the Spring of 2019. I promised her she can sit her pretty litlte arse on the beach for a few days of peace & quiet while I take my boys to Tampa (Yankees) and Ft. Myers (Red Sox, my oldest on is a Sox fan ) for some Spring Baseball. We're arleady scheduled to spend a week in Cooperstown for my oldest son's 12U tournament.

So I went down for Spring Training the year that the Trop opened. Got to watch Yanks vs Rays at some random outdoor field in St Pete. Must've been some high school or college field or something. Anyway, my brother and I sat on a lawn hill right behind the Yankees bullpen. In that pen sat Andy Pettitte, Mariano Rivera, Goose Gossage and Reggie Jackson. I kick myself every day for not being an annoying autograph seeking fan that day.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

So I went down for Spring Training the year that the Trop opened. Got to watch Yanks vs Rays at some random outdoor field in St Pete. Must've been some high school or college field or something. Anyway, my brother and I sat on a lawn hill right behind the Yankees bullpen. In that pen sat Andy Pettitte, Mariano Rivera, Goose Gossage and Reggie Jackson. I kick myself every day for not being an annoying autograph seeking fan that day.

Last winter (Feb '18), I took the family to a Dude Ranch in Tuscon for a week (I was a lot of fun, which I was surprised about, even with the snow in the higher elevations). After checking out of the Ranch, we drove up to Phoenix for dinner with my friend's family before flying home the next day. In the morning at our hotel , my younger son was staring at a slick car parked in the drop-off area and completely ignored the guy who got out and walked right past him. He back to the room and tells his big brother about the car. So, my older one goes 'I wonder whose car that was.' I just throw out there, 'I guess it was Mike Trout's car as he was the guy who got out and walked right past {name}'. My older son knew that the Angels were in Spring Training camp nearby and explodes at his brother, 'what, Mike Trout walked by you and you didn't even say hi or ask for an autograph!' The poor little guy started to cry. if we go in the Spring, I bet my younger son will be much better prepared.

 

[the Q]

Thanks. I actually forgot include Camden Yards as I keep thinking its Yankee Stadium Central due to all of the Yanks fans who go to those games (Tampa is Yankee Staduim South and I know the Red Sox treat both teh same way, too). Of, it coudl have been the tequalia tasting I did that night with some work colleagues. I have heard good things about PetCo, too. For me, the next two are Nationals Park and City Field. I actually had tickets to a Nats game last year; but Mother Nature did not cooperate. People rave about City Field; but, as a guy from Jersey, I dread the two river crossings. I also want to get to Target Field the next time I trek out to see family in MSP. I do go to Atlanta a lot for work; but, the city for some reason built Sun Trust miles away from the nearest MARTA Station. The A's (again) and the Rangers I beleive are talking about new stadiums, too.

Yeah keeping a park away from public transit is rather dumb.

 

[Waquoit]

I do go to Atlanta a lot for work; but, the city for some reason built Sun Trust miles away from the nearest MARTA Station.

Not the city but the county mandated that the stadium NOT be built near mass transit. I think the reasons are pretty obvious.

 

[the Q]

Not the city but the county mandated that the stadium NOT be built near mass transit. I think the reasons are pretty obvious.

They don’t want more revenue and less car pollution?

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Not the city but the county mandated that the stadium NOT be built near mass transit. I think the reasons are pretty obvious.

Not surprised. I lived in a town once where certain locals tried to block an attempt to build a rail-trail nearby as one of the trail's terminus was in a city and they insisted that criminals would use the trail to break into people's homes. For some reason, 20 years later, no criminal has yet to been seen walking down the trail for 10 miles carrying someone's 40" plasma TV; but, now homes in the neighborhood actually list the trail as an asset when it is for sale,

 

[Dove]

This is fantastic...

 

[Dooley]

Just confirmation of the obvious here: Yanks showing interest in Corbin.

Also of note in Morosi's tweet: the thought that the Mets could trade Thor or deGrom then sign Corbin to replace whoever they trade. That's actually a good thought, if true. Both of those SPs could net a haul on the MLB and MiLB levels, depending on which way they want to go. Maybe a little of both.

As for how that possibility relates to the Yanks: perhaps they get involved in trade talks for deGrom. Highly unlikely that the Mets would make a blockbuster trade with the Yanks though. Always that fight for the back page and with fairly recent Jay Bruce to the Indians history/bickering, the chances are probably less than .01%. However, the Yanks farm is loaded and assuming Gleyber is untouchable, I think containing some of the likes of Sheffield/Adams/Abreu/Florial/Frazier/Andujar would be awfully difficult for the Mets to quickly dismiss because of cross-town rivalries. If the Yanks had to include Andujar, then they could conceivably pivot back to Machado and that's another win for the Mets as Machado looks most destined to land in Philadelphia.

The NL East is on lock down for another decade of Atlanta Braves dominance. And if the Phils ink both Machado and Harper, they'll be right up there with Atlanta as their primary division competitor. A trade of deGrom could really help the Mets chances by early next decade. At least give them a fighting chance at finishing higher than 4th behind Atlanta-Philadelphia-Washington in 2-3 years.

 

[the Q]

Just confirmation of the obvious here: Yanks showing interest in Corbin.

Also of note in Morosi's tweet: the thought that the Mets could trade Thor or deGrom then sign Corbin to replace whoever they trade. That's actually a good thought, if true. Both of those SPs could net a haul on the MLB and MiLB levels, depending on which way they want to go. Maybe a little of both.

As for how that possibility relates to the Yanks: perhaps they get involved in trade talks for deGrom. Highly unlikely that the Mets would make a blockbuster trade with the Yanks though. Always that fight for the back page and with fairly recent Jay Bruce to the Indians history/bickering, the chances are probably less than .01%. However, the Yanks farm is loaded and assuming Gleyber is untouchable, I think containing some of the likes of Sheffield/Adams/Abreu/Florial/Frazier/Andujar would be awfully difficult for the Mets to quickly dismiss because of cross-town rivalries. If the Yanks had to include Andujar, then they could conceivably pivot back to Machado and that's another win for the Mets as Machado looks most destined to land in Philadelphia.

The NL East is on lock down for another decade of Atlanta Braves dominance. And if the Phils ink both Machado and Harper, they'll be right up there with Atlanta as their primary division competitor. A trade of deGrom could really help the Mets chances by early next decade. At least give them a fighting chance at finishing higher than 4th behind Atlanta-Philadelphia-Washington in 2-3 years.

They should trade degrom just to avoid the obvious conflict of interest they have.

Getting Corbin to replace him is just the cherry on top.

 

[Dooley]

They should trade degrom just to avoid the obvious conflict of interest they have.

Getting Corbin to replace him is just the cherry on top.

I agree. I thought they should have traded deGrom at the trade deadline but can see why they'd wait until the offseason so they can engage every club, not just the contenders. I thought there were enough contenders that had prospects for a match but maybe now they can try to engage a team like the Padres. They have an incredibly loaded farm with more prospects than they can probably play in San Diego. It's the Mets though and for whatever reason, I think they're convinced they're right there with Atlanta and they're not.

 

[the Q]

I agree. I thought they should have traded deGrom at the trade deadline but can see why they'd wait until the offseason so they can engage every club, not just the contenders. I thought there were enough contenders that had prospects for a match but maybe now they can try to engage a team like the Padres. They have an incredibly loaded farm with more prospects than they can probably play in San Diego. It's the Mets though and for whatever reason, I think they're convinced they're right there with Atlanta and they're not.

Padres need to be patient. They’re stupidly impatient move last winter hasn’t worked out so far

 

[Dooley]

Padres need to be patient. They’re stupidly impatient move last winter hasn’t worked out so far

Agree - was just throwing speculative names out there. Maybe if the ChiSox sign Harper, they flip a few of their premier prospects for a guy like deGrom or Thor. The AL Central is about as mediocre a division that has ever existed in baseball history.

 

[the Q]

Agree - was just throwing speculative names out there. Maybe if the ChiSox sign Harper, they flip a few of their premier prospects for a guy like deGrom or Thor. The AL Central is about as mediocre a division that has ever existed in baseball history.

Yeah as CLe May sell some pieces off.

 

[Dooley]

Update: the reds hired Johnson away from the brewers.

Gray is probably less of a landing spot there

Reds landing spot for Sonny Gray? Swap Brewers out for Reds but the rationale is the same: Derek Johnson.

 

[the Q]

Reds landing spot for Sonny Gray? Swap Brewers out for Reds but the rationale is the same: Derek Johnson.

I didn’t think a rebuilding team would be after a rental. Maybe fix and flip

 

[Dooley]

I didn’t think a rebuilding team would be after a rental. Maybe fix and flip

Could certainly see that happening. They have to be sure they can carry out the flip aspect though. They tried with Harvey but couldn't move him. Even so, the risk couldn't be smaller with a potentially high reward (as it was with Harvey).

 

[the Q]

Could certainly see that happening. They have to be sure they can carry out the flip aspect though. They tried with Harvey but couldn't move him. Even so, the risk couldn't be smaller with a potentially high reward (as it was with Harvey).

Harvey was zero risk cause mesoraco was shot with his hip.

 

[Dooley]

Here we go, Madison Bumgarner "available" for trade. I just think the Yanks and Giants match up so well here.

 

[billythekid]

Yankees trade for James Paxton. First domino to fall. Looks like the Yanks are making their move.

Sheffield gone, Paxton in

 

[Dove]

Yankees trade for James Paxton. First domino to fall. Looks like the Yanks are making their move.

Sheffield gone, Paxton in

I wish this kid could go 33 starts. Seems to always have Dl stints every season. But last season had career highs across the board.

Severino
Tanaka
Paxton
...............
CC



I expect Corbin for sure (not a thrilling acquisition to me but oh well.) Would like Happ more.

 

[Danzz]

Yankees signed Paxton today from the Mariners. Solid starter.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

I wish this kid could go 33 starts. Seems to always have Dl stints every season. But last season had career highs across the board.

Severino
Tanaka
Paxton
.....
CC
I expect Corbin for sure (not a thrilling acquisition to me but oh well.) Would like Happ more.

I am good with this trade, especially as Paxton is under control for 2 more seasons, though I don't know much about the other two guys being traded. I saw some numbers on ESPN and it looks like Paxton's salary is clsoe to Gray, so if he can be unloaded, this has minimal payroll impact. Thus, I believe that thanks Yanks still go after Corbin in the Free Agency market. The question then becomes do the Yanks still try to bring JA Happ back. If they get Corbin, I say no. I do think that this takes the Yanks out of any potnetial Bumgarner talks and now they don't need to consider Eovaldi.

So, the starting rotation looks like this:

1) Severino
2) Paxton
3) Tanaka
4) Corbin
5) Sabathia
*) Loaissiga/Montgomery (Jul '19)

So, the focus turns to the infield and the big question is if the Yanks go after Machado. If yes, then I believe Andujar will become trade bait for maybe a top-end 1st Baseman bat (such as Anthony Rizzo who a lefty bat that the Bubs may move should payroll issues force them to move him) or maybe to help re-stock the minors with Sheffield gone. I still like picking-up Daniel Murphy as versatile infielder, especially while Did is out, and as an important Left bat.

 

[Dooley]

I like the trade too. Paxton's cost-effective 2 years means they still have significant money to spend this offseason. I, too, think Corbin is their top target and this trade all but guarantees that the Yanks go all-in to try to sign him.

The upcoming Gray trade could replenish the farm from what they just traded away to get Paxton. Preferably, they could land an upside A-ball prospect still years away from needing 40-man protection. Or, they look for a deal to bring in some MLB level INF depth.

Severino-Paxton puts the Yanks much closer to Verlander-Cole / Sale-Price / Kluber-Carrasco (for now) tiers at the top of the rotation. I think the focus now is adding quality depth. Corbin would immediately slide in as SP2-SP4. Re-signing Happ would be great but I can see him leaving if someone (Phillies?) offer a 3rd year that the Yanks don't want to include. I like Eovaldi but like him more as a bullpen weapon than a starter and I don't think the Yanks want to commit plus dollars for a bullpen arm. Along those lines, I think Robertson is gone. I think the Yanks have some electric arms on the farm that can slide in to cover those middle innings, then Green/Betances/Chapman cover the final third.

 

[huskeynut]

Very good move by Cashman. My next choice would be Corbin. If not Corbin, then Happ. This will give the Yanks a stronger starting rotation.

As to the infield, moving Torres to ss and bringing in Murphy for 2nd base makes since. I don't see the Yanks going for Machado. He's going to want a 10 year deal worth close to $300 million. Not worth it. I'm fine with Andujar at third. I think his fielding will improve. Andujar is a doubles machine that can consistantly hit .300. You don't trade that away unless you are getting someone very special.