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Now 28 in Kenpom

ScuderiaDiU said:
Where did you see that? When I checked just now they were 28th in Sagarin. 26th in his predictive component. 19th in recently played games. All very good signs.
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I check Sagarin as well. This morning, Sunday, we're 28.
 
Wonder if we make it into the "other receiving votes" section of the top 25. We should. Was looking at it today. North Carolina is in that section. So is Xavier. What an odd year. We are not anywhere on the lost. Yet, I think most of us think we are a top 15 team. Oddly enough, I think many in the actual press feel the same. Very odd at this point in the season. Weeks before the tournament.
 
If Butler holds on vs Nova will our 2 wins get helped much? Up 10 now starting second half. Amazing that Creighton, Hall, and now Nova are having trouble with Butler while we dominated
 
Ricker said:
If Butler holds on vs Nova will our 2 wins get helped much? Up 10 now starting second half. Amazing that Creighton, Hall, and now Nova are having trouble with Butler while we dominated
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Might help a tiny bit on Kenpom but won’t help with quadrant wins.. They’ll likely stay in the quadrants they are in now.
 
Ricker said:
If Butler holds on vs Nova will our 2 wins get helped much? Up 10 now starting second half. Amazing that Creighton, Hall, and now Nova are having trouble with Butler while we dominated
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They're at 131 in NET so unlikely, would have to move up to 75 to improve our quadrants. But they did move up 12 spots last night for some reason, so the away game is now a Q2 win
 
The ESPN+ comes with my Disney/Hulu package (would never pay for it on its own once UConn left the AAC). This is what they have to say after Marquette:

The Big East has struggled to produce solid at-large profiles outside of those belonging to Villanova and Creighton this season. Xavier, Seton Hall and St. John's all took turns as teams blessed by momentum, only to fall into greater or lesser degrees of bracket peril. But Connecticut might at last be joining the Wildcats and Bluejays as the third program that can begin to make some tentative travel arrangements for the middle of March. The Huskies are carrying a projected No. 11 seed, a number that has improved as James Bouknight has returned to action and as UConn has won four of its past five. The Huskies really love to crash the offensive glass.
 
Ricker said:
If Butler holds on vs Nova will our 2 wins get helped much? Up 10 now starting second half. Amazing that Creighton, Hall, and now Nova are having trouble with Butler while we dominated
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Golden is playing great, Nova has no answer.
 
NDakotaHusky said:
Wonder if we make it into the "other receiving votes" section of the top 25. We should. Was looking at it today. North Carolina is in that section. So is Xavier. What an odd year. We are not anywhere on the lost. Yet, I think most of us think we are a top 15 team. Oddly enough, I think many in the actual press feel the same. Very odd at this point in the season. Weeks before the tournament.
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Kolumbo said:
I didn't realize UConn was Others Receiving Votes in last week's Coaches Poll. Should make the AP list this week too. A few more wins and they'll be ranked. They need to beat SHU.
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Trying to work the clock up 11 under 3 min and the Butler kid takes a 3, 5 sec across half court - you know its your day when it goes in and a stupid play works out - up 14 under 3 min. I never would have guessed. Awful from the line. 2 of last 10. Nova 2-25 from 3. 8 conf wins for the 9th place team with wins over Creighton, Nova, and Hall is not shabby.
 
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MSU is 7-9 (might be 7-10 after Maryland game) in their league and is now slotted in the field - not even on the bubble - unreal
Did I hear during the Nova-Butler game that Nova only has 2 quadrant 1 wins?
To me if UConn is below the 7 seed they may fare better on sneaking up on some teams - they just need to punch the ticket but the team does need as many wins as possible based on the number of total games they have played is below a majority of teams in the NCAA hunt
Brochacho said:
My dream is to be the 6 or 7 seed to Houston’s 2. I think one of the things that helped us in 2014 was the familiarity of opponents. The whole team had beaten Florida, and our key players had experience beating Kentucky and Villanova. Plenty of experience at MSG - I think that really helped the team. Think our team would be incredibly comfortable playing against Houston.
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Many who contribute on this team haven't faced Houston and when it comes to physical matchups the Cougars are not a good one for UConn. The huskies don't have a good record vs. UH
 
UcannUconn said:
Playing devils advocate. Teams in the mid-30s have missed the tournament before. We simply do not know how the committee will view the fact that we haven’t played as many games as the other teams and that we only have one win against tournament teams. We need to win games period. Need to go at least 2-1 to be safe. L to Hall, W vs G-Town, L in round 1 BET we’re likely out.
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But you have to look at what the other factors are.

Do we pass the eye test? Absolutely. Do we get benefit of the doubt for having two thirds of our losses without our best player? That can only help. Playing better at the end of the season than earlier? Yup. First division finish in a power conference. Check that.

There is literally no reason to rank us lower than our computer average. Because we've played less games, which you've raised? There is no precedent for that, but why in the world would the Committee penalize a team for having had games postponed?

I didn't say we could fall apart from here and still get in. But being on the bubble today means, as of today, reasonable people could differ as to whether we should be in or out. As of today, there is no reasonable argument that we should be out.
 
Butler win over Nova helped UConn slighty in Kenpom...still at 28 but points went from 19.44 to 19.60.

Butler rose from 124 to 108 & Nova only fell 2 spots to 10.

MD passes UConn I'm guessing though if they beat MSU.
 
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gtcam said:
Many who contribute on this team haven't faced Houston and when it comes to physical matchups the Cougars are not a good one for UConn. The huskies don't have a good record vs. UH
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I want no part of kelvin sampson coached team if avoidable. We had a great win at end of last season, and I’m not saying they are better, but I’m saying “ no thanks”. Playing those teams is like a trip to the endodontist. I don’t need a basketball root canal . I’ll roll our dice in another casino.
 
Bouk alone has to push UConn up a bit. NCAA wants eyeballs on the screen. NCAA lost $600 million last year not having the tournament. Bouk will bring some fans to the seats whether they’re sitting at home out in the stadium.
 
August_West said:
I want no part of kelvin sampson coached team if avoidable. We had a great win at end of last season, and I’m not saying they are better, but I’m saying “ no thanks”. Playing those teams is like a trip to the endodontist. I don’t need a basketball root canal . I’ll roll our dice in another casino.
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Houston had over 50 points in the first half today with a couple of minutes to go.
 
You do all realize that they didn't take Davidson in 2009 and LeBron James was showing up at Steph Curry's games throughout the season and Steph and Davidson was an errant 3 from making the Final Four the year before.

They had beaten P5 teams that year too.

They ain't going to put in a borderline team because of some possible "star" factor. History shows us—beyond this Davidson example, to be clear—that they DGAF.
 
which top 25 teams have the lowest rankings in NET kenpom and BPI?
 
Does anybody understand the Colgate Net rating of 9 and have an opinion as to why the Net metric should have the influence in does if an aberration like this is possible? I saw the mention, but never actually looked before today. Colgate's 12 games have been against just 3 teams. They are 4-0 vs Holy Cross, 4-0 vs BU, and 3-1 vs Army? Other teams in the Patriot League played games, Navy etc. Based on the CBS website schedule it doesn't even look like other league teams were scheduled and postponed or cancelled. What is the backstory I missed. Really strange. They are listed in second place in the Patriot league at 11-1 and I just assumed they had played vs other Patriot League teams. With this net rating, would this have been a window dressing quad 1 game for us to have played them when Bouk was hurt? ie Similar to the net manipulation of Big 10 teams.
 
Ricker said:
Does anybody understand the Colgate Net rating of 9 and have an opinion as to why the Net metric should have the influence in does if an aberration like this is possible? I saw the mention, but never actually looked before today. Colgate's 12 games have been against just 3 teams. They are 4-0 vs Holy Cross, 4-0 vs BU, and 3-1 vs Army? Other teams in the Patriot League played games, Navy etc. Based on the CBS website schedule it doesn't even look like other league teams were scheduled and postponed or cancelled. What is the backstory I missed. Really strange. They are listed in second place in the Patriot league at 11-1 and I just assumed they had played vs other Patriot League teams. With this net rating, would this have been a window dressing quad 1 game for us to have played them when Bouk was hurt? ie Similar to the net manipulation of Big 10 teams.
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The NET has been tuned to reflect the appropriate results under a normal season. It's not built to handle the exceptions that this season brings.

Teams with 0 non-conference games, teams with small numbers of games played, teams going 6-0 on the road with all victories by at least 7 points, teams with 3 40+ point wins among their 12 games played, teams with an average scoring margin of 18 points and who of their 11 wins won by 9+ points in 10 of them (and the one loss was by 2 points).

That's Colgate ^.

Aberrations will always be more prominent with less numbers of games. They get smoothed out by more games and more non-conference games, neither of which happened here. But results from other conferences that are less isolated and more prolific will be more normal(ish).

The B1G didn't manipulate the NET. They just had good teams, played well in non-conf overall, and because of the heavier schedule of conf vs. nonconf gave their medium teams more opportunities to win agaisnt good teams than other conferences. Systems factor this in, but people who only look at quadrant wins and don't factor in win% in those quadrants or scoring margin will be misled.
 
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Ricker said:
If Butler holds on vs Nova will our 2 wins get helped much? Up 10 now starting second half. Amazing that Creighton, Hall, and now Nova are having trouble with Butler while we dominated
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Being at this point, 7-0 vs DePaul, Marquette, Georgetown and Butler is no small feat. Those Teams have some scalps
 

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