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Sorry everyone I could’ve sworn they didn’t. My bad!
Yes, that is a popular upset, just like the 12 over 5. Im just looking at it like...with Bouknight, we are a top 25 team, and probably no worse than a 5 seed. Since he missed time, our entire body of work doesn’t reflect that, and It would most likely affect our seeding. So, even if we are on the 5-6 line, I like our chances of advancing in the early rounds because we are better than that.Lots of 11 over 6 upsets!
You’re basically correct. They have the Kenpom number available, but anytime anyone is talking about Quad 1/2/3/4 wins/losses, the Quad each game falls into is determined by the NET ranking, so it has a much larger influence than the other metrics.Sorry everyone I could’ve sworn they didn’t. My bad!
Massey 39 before yesterday gets plugged inSunday update:
36 NET
28 Kenpom
30 BPI
Outside of the 1-3 lines, lots of upsets across the board. Even a decent amount of 14-3s.Lots of 11 over 6 upsets!
I'm hoping this year because of the dearth of OOC games NET and the quads are a bit de-emphasized. We'll see.You’re basically correct. They have the Kenpom number available, but anytime anyone is talking about Quad 1/2/3/4 wins/losses, the Quad each game falls into is determined by the NET ranking, so it has a much larger influence than the other metrics.
Just like in the past they had all the computer metrics available but RPI is what really mattered.
True. I think in any situation we will be underseeded and a bad matchup for any team in the first two rounds.Yes, that is a popular upset, just like the 12 over 5. Im just looking at it like...with Bouknight, we are a top 25 team, and probably no worse than a 5 seed. Since he missed time, our entire body of work doesn’t reflect that, and It would most likely affect our seeding. So, even if we are on the 5-6 line, I like our chances of advancing in the early rounds because we are better than that.
Agree, we want the best seed possible more so than worrying about the traditional upset spots. 5 and 6 to me are great spots avoiding those top 2 seeds until the second weekend.Yes, that is a popular upset, just like the 12 over 5. Im just looking at it like...with Bouknight, we are a top 25 team, and probably no worse than a 5 seed. Since he missed time, our entire body of work doesn’t reflect that, and It would most likely affect our seeding. So, even if we are on the 5-6 line, I like our chances of advancing in the early rounds because we are better than that.
AlwaysAnyone else read it as Kenporn? I see it that way every time. lol!
I think we can make the FF with right draw.I agree with @businesslawyer. We can get to a 6 seed, where I see us making the Sweet 16 with the right draw. Still business to do.
Can’t vouch for the algorithm, but found this projection site interesting:Conclusion: we’re simply not a bubble team at the moment. Doesn’t mean I don’t want to keep winning. Doesn’t mean that 0-3 from here wouldn’t knock us out. But when you look at all those rankings, as well as the eye test, we are not a bubble team.
Besides making a run in the Big East tournament for its own sake, the goal for the tournament at this point is to try to move our ranking up to say a 6 seed, where we very well might be betting favorites to get to the second weekend.
I thought they factored in the other rating systems besides net as well. Figured those would also be on our team sheet.Here's our current teamsheet if anyone is curious
NCAA Statistics
stats.ncaa.org
They have more info like that on the team sheet the committee gets, but those aren't made public until after Selection SundayI thought they factored in the other rating systems besides net as well. Figured those would also be on our team sheet.
Where did you see that? When I checked just now they were 28th in Sagarin. 26th in his predictive component. 19th in recently played games. All very good signs.And 32 in Sagarins.
Conclusion: we’re simply not a bubble team at the moment. Doesn’t mean I don’t want to keep winning. Doesn’t mean that 0-3 from here wouldn’t knock us out. But when you look at all those rankings, as well as the eye test, we are not a bubble team.
Besides making a run in the Big East tournament for its own sake, the goal for the tournament at this point is to try to move our ranking up to say a 6 seed, where we very well might be betting favorites to get to the second weekend.
Where did you see that? When I checked just now they were 28th in Sagarin. 26th in his predictive component. 19th in recently played games. All very good signs.
Playing devils advocate. Teams in the mid-30s have missed the tournament before. We simply do not know how the committee will view the fact that we haven’t played as many games as the other teams and that we only have one win against tournament teams. We need to win games period. Need to go at least 2-1 to be safe. L to Hall, W vs G-Town, L in round 1 BET we’re likely out.And 32 in Sagarins.
Conclusion: we’re simply not a bubble team at the moment. Doesn’t mean I don’t want to keep winning. Doesn’t mean that 0-3 from here wouldn’t knock us out. But when you look at all those rankings, as well as the eye test, we are not a bubble team.
Besides making a run in the Big East tournament for its own sake, the goal for the tournament at this point is to try to move our ranking up to say a 6 seed, where we very well might be betting favorites to get to the second weekend.
Yeah as Navery said, I think this is actually more the NET nitty gritty. It's labeled team sheet but looks a little different than the committee ones from the past.I thought they factored in the other rating systems besides net as well. Figured those would also be on our team sheet.
I appreciated the info.I love that someone incorrectly says they don't use Kenpom and @Tenspro2002 likes the post. Are you even a Uconn fan bro? Seriously.
We have beaten two tournament teams. Xavier is in as of nowPlaying devils advocate. Teams in the mid-30s have missed the tournament before. We simply do not know how the committee will view the fact that we haven’t played as many games as the other teams and that we only have one win against tournament teams. We need to win games period. Need to go at least 2-1 to be safe. L to Hall, W vs G-Town, L in round 1 BET we’re likely out.
We are going to annihilate Seton Hall, Mark my words, betting the farm on it.Playing devils advocate. Teams in the mid-30s have missed the tournament before. We simply do not know how the committee will view the fact that we haven’t played as many games as the other teams and that we only have one win against tournament teams. We need to win games period. Need to go at least 2-1 to be safe. L to Hall, W vs G-Town, L in round 1 BET we’re likely out.
Great pointsMy dream is to be the 6 or 7 seed to Houston’s 2. I think one of the things that helped us in 2014 was the familiarity of opponents. The whole team had beaten Florida, and our key players had experience beating Kentucky and Villanova. Plenty of experience at MSG - I think that really helped the team. Think our team would be incredibly comfortable playing against Houston.
Does winning the BE get us to a 4 or 5?Agreed.
Lundardi moved us to the top of his last 4 byes.
Palm still has us as an 8.
I agree with @businesslawyer. We can get to a 6 seed, where I see us making the Sweet 16 with the right draw. Still business to do.