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Now 28 in Kenpom

DaveHuskiesFan said:
Gotta go back to 2013 Iowa for a team that was 30th or higher (with a winning record) that missed the tournament.
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Nice research, thanks! However, I didn't realize that kenpom has been around for that long. Are you referring to NET or Kenpom?
 
RayRay said:
Nice research, thanks! However, I didn't realize that kenpom has been around for that long. Are you referring to NET or Kenpom?
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Kenpom. Been around for a while and they went back and retroactively applied their formulas to seasons all the way back to 2002
 
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Seton Hall is a Q1 opportunity, right? Top 75 away opponent? Last I checked their NET was mid-50s.
 
32 offense. 30 defense. It's probably not a shocker... but we look better offensively with Bouk.

That being said, I was happy to see coach let the guys run today. We played good offense despite not shooting very well overall. The off-ball screens looked more active to me, and we didn't run that kill-the-clock weave much except at the very end.
 
And 32 in Sagarins.

Conclusion: we’re simply not a bubble team at the moment. Doesn’t mean I don’t want to keep winning. Doesn’t mean that 0-3 from here wouldn’t knock us out. But when you look at all those rankings, as well as the eye test, we are not a bubble team.

Besides making a run in the Big East tournament for its own sake, the goal for the tournament at this point is to try to move our ranking up to say a 6 seed, where we very well might be betting favorites to get to the second weekend.
 
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businesslawyer said:
And 32 in Sagarins.

Conclusion: we’re simply not a bubble team at the moment. Doesn’t mean I don’t want to keep winning. Doesn’t mean that 0-3 from here knocks us out. But when you look at all those rankings, as well as the eye test, we are not a bubble team.

Besides making a run in the Big East tournament for its own sake, the goal for the tournament at this point is to try to move our ranking up to say a 6 seed, where we very well might be betting favorites to get to the second weekend.
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Agreed.

Lundardi moved us to the top of his last 4 byes.

Palm still has us as an 8.

I agree with @businesslawyer. We can get to a 6 seed, where I see us making the Sweet 16 with the right draw. Still business to do.
 
This team needs to desperately keep winning. Get me to a 3-5 seed if we win the BET. I want to stay away from that dreaded 8/9 seed, and wouldn’t be opposed to a 7/10. Being a 6 seed scares me.
 
My dream is to be the 6 or 7 seed to Houston’s 2. I think one of the things that helped us in 2014 was the familiarity of opponents. The whole team had beaten Florida, and our key players had experience beating Kentucky and Villanova. Plenty of experience at MSG - I think that really helped the team. Think our team would be incredibly comfortable playing against Houston.
 
BFieldHusky said:
Sunday update:

36 NET
28 Kenpom
30 BPI
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Which does the Committee use?

If they lean on KenPom, we're nearly a lock with only one more win.

NET isn't as secure, and going 1-2 probably drops us into the 40s.
 
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TheChamps990411 said:
Anyone else read it as Kenporn? I see it that way every time. lol!
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CTBasketball said:
This team needs to desperately keep winning. Get me to a 3-5 seed if we win the BET. I want to stay away from that dreaded 8/9 seed, and wouldn’t be opposed to a 7/10. Being a 6 seed scares me.
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A 6 seed is actually a good spot. In round 1, you play an 11 which would be a winnable game. Then in round 2, you would most likely face the 3 seed. Not easy by any means, but you would still avoid the top 2 seeds until the Sweet 16 if they make it that far, and the only chance you get to face the 1 wouldnt be until the Elite 8.
 
Ts5034 said:
A 6 seed is actually a good spot. In round 1, you play an 11 which would be a winnable game. Then in round 2, you would most likely face the 3 seed. Not easy by any means, but you would still avoid the top 2 seeds until the Sweet 16 if they make it that far, and the only chance you get to face the 1 wouldnt be until the Elite 8.
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Lots of 11 over 6 upsets!
 
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CTBasketball said:
Lots of 11 over 6 upsets!
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Yes, that is a popular upset, just like the 12 over 5. Im just looking at it like...with Bouknight, we are a top 25 team, and probably no worse than a 5 seed. Since he missed time, our entire body of work doesn’t reflect that, and It would most likely affect our seeding. So, even if we are on the 5-6 line, I like our chances of advancing in the early rounds because we are better than that.
 
Nebraskan18 said:
Sorry everyone I could’ve sworn they didn’t. My bad!
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You’re basically correct. They have the Kenpom number available, but anytime anyone is talking about Quad 1/2/3/4 wins/losses, the Quad each game falls into is determined by the NET ranking, so it has a much larger influence than the other metrics.

Just like in the past they had all the computer metrics available but RPI is what really mattered.
 
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