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November General CBB Discussion Thread (Non-BE)

Guess you do not root for Karaban nor JF for football. In today’s era of college revenue sports this is becoming common.
Karaban is in his 4th season of cbb after redshirting for a semester, Fagnano started playing cfb in 2019, how are those two cases the same? I don't think anyone has an issue with guys playing their normal 4 years, its when you start seeing guys doing 6 years and more where it just starts getting ridiculous.
 
Karaban is in his 4th season of cbb after redshirting for a semester, Fagnano started playing cfb in 2019, how are those two cases the same? I don't think anyone has an issue with guys playing their normal 4 years, its when you start seeing guys doing 6 years and more where it just starts getting ridiculous.
JF is in his seventh year. He pointed out someone that was 23 years old. Karaban is 23 years old.
 
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Mark Few is truly a genius coach. If not UConn, I hope the Zags finally cut down the nets.
I always pull for Gonzaga as long as they are not playing UConn or another Big East team. I hope one day Gonzaga and Mark Few win the NCAAT as long as it's not at UConn's expense.
 
Karaban is in his 4th season of cbb after redshirting for a semester, Fagnano started playing cfb in 2019, how are those two cases the same? I don't think anyone has an issue with guys playing their normal 4 years, its when you start seeing guys doing 6 years and more where it just starts getting ridiculous.
Bingo
 
Quinnipiac is rated around 200. I guess it matters how you define very good. It is just amazing how bad Rutgers and BCU are.
I guess I'm defining "very good" as they were selected first in the MAAC coaches' preseason poll and just picked up a road win over a top 100 team in Pitt. They are very dangerous.
 
All mid majors will slip. It's what makes what Few does so amazing. He's so creative in his recruitment, between international, portal and HS. Dutcher doesn't do that.
Also, Gonzaga has built such a strong basketball brand. In 1999, they were the out of nowhere lovable Cinderella that knocked off giants and gave #1 UConn all it could take in the Elite 8. They followed that up the next year and advanced to the Sweet 16 after knocking off #2 St. John's, but they were still a Cinderella that got to the NCAAT 2 years in a row. But after making the NCAAT every year and also getting high seeds on some years which resulted in them getting the Elite 8 and then the NCAA title game twice, they are no longer a Cinderella and have not been considered that for a long time now.

In addition to what I wrote above, another thing that helps their brand is they always play tough out of conference opponents, which not only gives them more national exposure, but it gives the necessary high level competition that they did not face in the WCC.
 
I guess I'm defining "very good" as they were selected first in the MAAC coaches' preseason poll and just picked up a road win over a top 100 team in Pitt. They are very dangerous.
They have played exceptionally well. Pretty amazing them and CCSU are beating ACC and Big 10 teams given disparity in resources.
 
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Reminds me of Auburn last year.
speaking of which, Chad Baker-Mazara is playing for USC. That also means he has returned to Maui from last year's tournament, so he has played back to back tournaments in Maui.
 
JF is in his seventh year. He pointed out someone that was 23 years old. Karaban is 23 years old.
Karaban just turned 23, instead of the normal 22 for a senior, because he repeated 8th grade. Not for academic reasons. He went to a Catholic middle-high school that allowed 8th graders to play on the high school varsity team.
 
speaking of which, Chad Baker-Mazara is playing for USC. That also means he has returned to Maui from last year's tournament, so he has played back to back tournaments in Maui.
Will be old enough to get kicked off his parents insurance by the end of the season!!!
 
Matt Norlander thinks they can go to the Final Four.

Me too. I slept on Gonzaga entering this season (didn't think they had the firepower and Saint Mary's was much better), but this is arguably Mark Few's deepest team in years as they'll regularly go nine-deep.

Ike/Huff make up a hell of a center combo and have enough skill/spacing to share the floor together. Maybe they don't have "a guy" at point guard, but the Smith/Saint-Supery PG combo have good vision. Warley/Grant-Foster are combo guards who can create their own bucket off the dribble. Adam Miller (yes, he's still playing college ball, lol) can score in bunches Venters is a nice offensive piece of the bench Innocenti is a bulldog of a defender.

Overall, nice balance as they don't need to win by scoring a lot as they now have a damn good defense too.
 
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"They're giving us $1 million," Cougars coach Kelvin Sampson said. "That's why we're there, and I would say that's why all the teams are there. We didn't sign up for this to have a tournament where we could play each other. We signed up for this because they're giving us $1 million. If they decided to put a court down at some vacant lot and they'd give us $1 million, I'd go play there, too.”
 
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Iowa State / Creighton, truTV
Creigton looks like they could get run - they're not very good. Bubble team at best. I don't know how far they fall in the league because they have McDermott (who seems to dislike his team), but their roster is really meh. They lost a ton with Kalk/Neal/Ashworth, and now don't have McAndrews. These Iowa kids didn't even make the tournament last year, how good can they be?
 

"They're giving us $1 million," Cougars coach Kelvin Sampson said. "That's why we're there, and I would say that's why all the teams are there. We didn't sign up for this to have a tournament where we could play each other. We signed up for this because they're giving us $1 million. If they decided to put a court down at some vacant lot and they'd give us $1 million, I'd go play there, too.”

Can we get an invite please???
We turned it down this year. We are making more playing in Boston and New York twice.
 
Creigton looks like they could get run - they're not very good. Bubble team at best. I don't know how far they fall in the league because they have McDermott (who seems to dislike his team), but their roster is really meh. They lost a ton with Kalk/Neal/Ashworth, and now don't have McAndrews. These Iowa kids didn't even make the tournament last year, how good can they be?
Well they beat St John and are running Creighton out of the gym. Creighton cannot rebound nor stop dribble penetration.
 
Creigton looks like they could get run - they're not very good. Bubble team at best. I don't know how far they fall in the league because they have McDermott (who seems to dislike his team), but their roster is really meh. They lost a ton with Kalk/Neal/Ashworth, and now don't have McAndrews. These Iowa kids didn't even make the tournament last year, how good can they be?
Iowa State is ranked #15 and just beat #14 St. Johns. I think they are pretty good. Agree with you that Creighton doesn't seem to be good.
 
Tennessee and Houston should be good -KU and Cuse is big name value. We’ll see if Cuse can maintain some positivity.
 
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Also, Gonzaga has built such a strong basketball brand. In 1999, they were the out of nowhere lovable Cinderella that knocked off giants and gave #1 UConn all it could take in the Elite 8. They followed that up the next year and advanced to the Sweet 16 after knocking off #2 St. John's, but they were still a Cinderella that got to the NCAAT 2 years in a row. But after making the NCAAT every year and also getting high seeds on some years which resulted in them getting the Elite 8 and then the NCAA title game twice, they are no longer a Cinderella and have not been considered that for a long time now.

In addition to what I wrote above, another thing that helps their brand is they always play tough out of conference opponents, which not only gives them more national exposure, but it gives the necessary high level competition that they did not face in the WCC.
Brand has to start somewhere, and the challenges remain. UCLA & Indiana have great brands and haven't touched Gonzaga's consistency. It's all Few. Will be interesting to see how far the brand takes them once he retires.

I remember the shot of Few & Boeheim at the 2024 finals watching that Uconn team in awe - that was great.
 

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