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Fland & Lee, not a NC backcourt. I just watched Boogie shoot a well covered, deep 3 out of the flow of the offense. He bricked it off the backboard, lead to a Miami fast break layup.
 
RuffRuff said:
Fland & Lee, not a NC backcourt. I just watched Boogie shoot a well covered, deep 3 out of the flow of the offense. He bricked it off the backboard, lead to a Miami fast break layup.
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Really hoping to crush them. Honestly just Based on how the schedule set up I don’t wanna lose any of these big OOCs. I Woulda been fine losing to Zona or Illinois if they weren’t home games. Def wanted to beat BYu and UF because I think they’re both overrated and they’re also de facto home games. Need revenge against KU for beating us in ‘24 and Texas might end up being a bad L. Guess we gotta go 6-0.
 
Kelvin Sampson will get Houston in the thick of things come tournament time.
 
I thought this might fit here. The stats of the top 25 by 247 so far this year:

1-15 (five stars on 24/7 not composite)

Petterson: 21.5, 3.5, 3 - #25 KU - (composite five star)
Dybantsa: 20.3, 6.8, 2 - #7 BYU - (composite five star)
Boozer: 22.5, 10.3, 4.3 - #4 Duke - (composite five star)
Ament: 20, 8.7, 3.7 - #20 UT - (composite five star)
Acuff: 19.8, 3.3, 4.8 - #21 ARK - (composite five star)
Brown: 19.3, 2.5, 6.8 - #12 UL - (composite five star)
Cenac: 10.8, 9, 0.5 - #1 UH - (composite five star)
Wilson: 20, 9.5, 3 - #18 UNC - (composite five star)
Burries: 8.8, 2, 2.5 - #5 Zona - (composite five star)
Arenas: DNP (out 6-8 months I think) - (composite five star)
Peat: 16.3, 5.3, 2.8 - #5 Zona - (composite five star)
Mullins: DNP (back soon) - (composite five star)
Thomas: 17.8, 6.5, 4.8 - #21 Ark - (composite five star)
Yessoufou: 16.3, 5, 1.7 - Unranked Baylor (3-0) - (composite five star)
Khamenia: 7.3, 4.8, 2.3 - #4 Duke- (composite five star)

Top 16-25 (four stars):

Harwell: 5.7, 2, 1.3 - #1 UH - (composite five star)
Sylla: 11.8, 11, 0.8 - Unranked GTech (3-1) - (Top 100ish payer composite)
Haralson: 11.3, 3.3, 2.0 - Unranked ND (3-1) - (composite five star)
Ingram: 2.7, 0.7, 0.7 - #10 UF - (composite four star)
Fleming: 17.3, 3.5, 5.3 - #1 UH - (composite five star)
McKenney: 13.3, 2, 2 - #6 UM - (composite five star)
Abaev: 11.3, 2.3, 1.0 - Unranked Cincy- (composite five star)
Boozer: 7.5, 3.8, 4.0 - #4 Duke - (composite five star)
Johnson: 7.0, 2.0, 4.0 - #9 UK- (composite five star)
Henderson: 11.0, 4.0, 2.3 - Unranked Miami - (composite five star)

Of the five stars (13 who have played) only two are under 10 PPG and both play with other five star recruits (Khamenia with Boozer) and (Burries with Peat). If you bring it to 15 PPG, you only lose Cenac who is at 10.8 PPG and also grabs 9 boards a game.

Of the other ten players only four are under 10 PPG. Two play with multiple top 25 guys (Boozer with Boozer and Khamenia) and (Harwell with Cenac and Fleming) and are at fairly average numbers. One of the others is at relatively average freshman numbers in Johnson. The only one that really hasn't shown out at all is Ingram.

I'm sure this will fluctuate a lot as teams get into the meat of their schedules but I thought it would be interesting to check on once in awhile.

Anyone else excited for Mullins?

Also, what is up with Bundalo getting 1-2 minutes a game at Ole Miss?
 
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bendm said:
Really hoping to crush them. Honestly just Based on how the schedule set up I don’t wanna lose any of these big OOCs. I Woulda been fine losing to Zona or Illinois if they weren’t home games. Def wanted to beat BYu and UF because I think they’re both overrated and they’re also de facto home games. Need revenge against KU for beating us in ‘24 and Texas might end up being a bad L. Guess we gotta go 6-0.
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Kansas not having DP, or nursing a hamstring, could help our cause in Kansas. Zona/Illinois will be really tough. If we can grab 2 of those 3, I like where we sit.

And yeah, the fact Sampson is allowing these frosh to take control is probably intentional. He knows what his seniors are going to give him, so why not let the frosh get some run early, let it congeal later in season. Smart dude.
 
caw said:
I thought this might fit here. The stats of the top 25 by 247 so far this year:

1-15 (five stars on 24/7 not composite)

Petterson: 21.5, 3.5, 3 - #25 KU - (composite five star)
Dybantsa: 20.3, 6.8, 2 - #7 BYU - (composite five star)
Boozer: 22.5, 10.3, 4.3 - #4 Duke - (composite five star)
Ament: 20, 8.7, 3.7 - #20 UT - (composite five star)
Acuff: 19.8, 3.3, 4.8 - #21 ARK - (composite five star)
Brown: 19.3, 2.5, 6.8 - #12 UL - (composite five star)
Cenac: 10.8, 9, 0.5 - #1 UH - (composite five star)
Wilson: 20, 9.5, 3 - #18 UNC - (composite five star)
Burries: 8.8, 2, 2.5 - #5 Zona - (composite five star)
Arenas: DNP (out 6-8 months I think) - (composite five star)
Peat: 16.3, 5.3, 2.8 - #5 Zona - (composite five star)
Mullins: DNP (back soon) - (composite five star)
Thomas: 17.8, 6.5, 4.8 - #21 Ark - (composite five star)
Yessoufou: 16.3, 5, 1.7 - Unranked Baylor (3-0) - (composite five star)
Khamenia: 7.3, 4.8, 2.3 - #4 Duke- (composite five star)

Top 16-25 (four stars):

Harwell: 5.7, 2, 1.3 - #1 UH - (composite five star)
Sylla: 11.8, 11, 0.8 - Unranked GTech (3-1) - (Top 100ish payer composite)
Haralson: 11.3, 3.3, 2.0 - Unranked ND (3-1) - (composite five star)
Ingram: 2.7, 0.7, 0.7 - #10 UF - (composite four star)
Fleming: 17.3, 3.5, 5.3 - #1 UH - (composite five star)
McKenney: 13.3, 2, 2 - #6 UM - (composite five star)
Abaev: 11.3, 2.3, 1.0 - Unranked Cincy- (composite five star)
Boozer: 7.5, 3.8, 4.0 - #4 Duke - (composite five star)
Johnson: 7.0, 2.0, 4.0 - #9 UK- (composite five star)
Henderson: 11.0, 4.0, 2.3 - Unranked Miami - (composite five star)

Of the five stars (13 who have played) only two are under 10 PPG and both play with other five star recruits (Khamenia with Boozer) and (Burries with Peat). If you bring it to 15 PPG, you only lose Cenac who is at 10.8 PPG and also grabs 9 boards a game.

Of the other ten players only four are under 10 PPG. Two play with multiple top 25 guys (Boozer with Boozer and Khamenia) and (Harwell with Cenac and Fleming) and are at fairly average numbers. One of the others is at relatively average freshman numbers in Johnson. The only one that really hasn't shown out at all is Ingram.

I'm sure this will fluctuate a lot as teams get into the meat of their schedules but I thought it would be interesting to check on once in awhile.

Anyone else excited for Mullins?

Also, what is up with Bundalo getting 1-2 minutes a game at Ole Miss?
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That top 13-14 is special. I cannot wait to get Mullins out there. Between his return and Ross' development, I'm liking where the complimentary pieces are coming together.
 
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watching VCU vs NC State, not alot of minutes for Nowell so far. Coming off the bench behind Nyk Lewis, who was originally an Xavier commit before Miller left for Texas. Only got one brief 3-4 minute stretch in the first half.
 
aceboon said:
watching VCU vs NC State, not alot of minutes for Nowell so far. Coming off the bench behind Nyk Lewis, who was originally an Xavier commit before Miller left for Texas. Only got one brief 3-4 minute stretch in the first half.
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Very weird because it says 13 minutes on ESPN but I watched for a bit and didn’t see him at all. He also has no stats.
 
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Very weird because it says 13 minutes on ESPN but I watched for a bit and didn’t see him at all. He also has no stats.
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Yea there's no way he played 13 minutes, maybe they're adding 1 in front of the 3(ish) minutes I saw him. He had one assist that led to a 3 and then got passed an end of shot clock grenade for a missed 3 in the minutes that I saw him.
 
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Meanwhile SIUE is taking it to Wisconsin (early but fun when early and still tied 10-10)
 
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Darrion Williams was a great portal pickup for NC State, not just a scorer he can pass well also. Tech couldn't afford to retain him with all of their booster money?
 
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Darrion Williams was a great portal pickup for NC State, not just a scorer he can pass well also. Tech couldn't afford to retain him with all of their booster money?
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They spilt like 4mm on Toppin, as well as the kid from Wazzu.

We were on Williams lightly before AK decided to return. Kid is legit - a dawg, great all around player. Could see Landrew in his mold. I watched a little Landrew - boy is he thick for a 3.
 
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They spilt like 4mm on Toppin, as well as the kid from Wazzu.

We were on Williams lightly before AK decided to return. Kid is legit - a dawg, great all around player. Could see Landrew in his mold. I watched a little Landrew - boy is he thick for a 3.
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Now that you mention him I think Watts committed while Williams was still in the draft. Similar skillset while playing basically at a "midmajor", I could see Watts being a less expensive alternative to Williams. And yes, Landrew does seem to be in that Williams/Watts mold where you could play him as a 3/4.

On another note Nowell hasn't played a minute this 2nd half and it's not like Lewis is playing well. Maybe he got hurt, if not we might see a certain trainer/father have a meltdown on social media.
 
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Houston got three 5*s? Fertitta must be writing checks .
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Fleming and Harwell are composite five stars but 247 has them as four stars, though still top 25 players in the class. Either way, yeah they got a haul as good as (or better than) UConn's before Adams departed.
 
caw said:
Fleming and Harwell are composite five stars but 247 has them as four stars, though still top 25 players in the class. Either way, yeah they got a haul as good as (or better than) UConn's before Adams departed.
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Composite is king
 
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bendm said:
Composite is king
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I usually agree, but I went with the 247 ranking because the composite has something like 29 five stars, which is kind of insane.
 
I just saw this interesting piece on reddit. This is pretty crazy to me. There always seems to be some upsets to start the season.

"We are at 15 days (and counting) since the season started with no unranked teams beating a ranked AP opponent. This is the longest since the AP Poll started releasing a preseason poll in 1961-62 and also includes up to 1988-89, where the AP Poll only had 20 teams. The previous longest was a 13-day tie between 2003 and 1979. However, 1979 should have a caveat that there was a 12 day gap between the single game to open the season and when everyone else started on November 30th."
 
Kansas at Duke tonight at 9:00. No Darryn Peterson for KU (Hamstring) so Kansas about to go 0-2 against the best of the ACC. I wish I knew why they played both UNC and Duke on the road in the same season.
 
Chuck said:
I just saw this interesting piece on reddit. This is pretty crazy to me. There always seems to be some upsets to start the season.

"We are at 15 days (and counting) since the season started with no unranked teams beating a ranked AP opponent. This is the longest since the AP Poll started releasing a preseason poll in 1961-62 and also includes up to 1988-89, where the AP Poll only had 20 teams. The previous longest was a 13-day tie between 2003 and 1979. However, 1979 should have a caveat that there was a 12 day gap between the single game to open the season and when everyone else started on November 30th."
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I don't typically trust reddit but crazy if true.
 
between the Arkansas game and now this first half vs Kentucky, Mich State looks better than what I was expecting this season. exhibition or not, both UConn and Mich State played their starters heavy minutes deep into the game and our guys handled them pretty easily without Reed and Mullins
 
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KingAG said:
Izzo is just a better coach than Pope. UK is just launching grenades
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Pope has run the same offense for awhile, it's not horrible but like Bama it can bring a lot of variable to a game. This game is a good example of the negative.
 
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Pope has run the same offense for awhile, it's not horrible but like Bama it can bring a lot of variable to a game. This game is a good example of the negative.
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He’s run the same offense and hasn’t won as much as a conference title.
 
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KingAG said:
He’s run the same offense and hasn’t won as much as a conference title.
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It’s soft - and requires hitting threes. The best systems impose their will. This is a beat down.
 
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