Notre Dame Won't Change Football

[jibsey]

I am trying to get a handle on why Notre Dame would want to join any conference in football. As an independent they can get into the BCS playoff? They have it perfect. They can pick and choose their schedule playing big name schools from all of the conferences, as an independent. It makes no sense that they would join any conference in football for any reason. How long would their TV contract hold up if they had to play a conference schedule? Their money is dictated and guaranteed by their independence. So the question is what conference wants them for all but football sports? It seems like they only care about football and wherever the best place they can land for hoop without jeopardizing football is Ok with them. I don't see the ACC or the Big 10 giving them the same deal as the BE without the football, because those conferences are now strong enough to not make a special case for them. They are separate and "special" in football, and they are going to stay that way. Any plan that has them changing is a non starter for them.

 

[jleves]

I think it comes down to the other sports that will force ND's hand. They have a ton of all sports teams and they will eventually have to be in a league in order to have teams for them to play. Independent works in Football but doesn't work so well for womens volleyball (or pick your sport). At some point, a league won't take them for everything but football (as the BE currently does.) They will have to go somewhere.

 

[upstater]

I am trying to get a handle on why Notre Dame would want to join any conference in football. As an independent they can get into the BCS playoff? They have it perfect. They can pick and choose their schedule playing big name schools from all of the conferences, as an independent. It makes no sense that they would join any conference in football for any reason. How long would their TV contract hold up if they had to play a conference schedule? Their money is dictated and guaranteed by their independence. So the question is what conference wants them for all but football sports? It seems like they only care about football and wherever the best place they can land for hoop without jeopardizing football is Ok with them. I don't see the ACC or the Big 10 giving them the same deal as the BE without the football, because those conferences are now strong enough to not make a special case for them. They are separate and "special" in football, and they are going to stay that way. Any plan that has them changing is a non starter for them.

$$$ Indiana and Purdue make 2.5x as much money from TV as ND does.

 

[Fishy]

Notre Dame either simply does not give a about the Big Ten's money or they're cleaning up in some other fashion. (i.e. fund raising.)

Because for all the chatter that Notre Dame has to 'do something', they seem to be more than happy with the status quo.

 

[jibsey]

Notre Dame either simply does not give a darn about the Big Ten's money or they're cleaning up in some other fashion. (i.e. fund raising.)

Good point about the fund raising, can't even imagine how big their endowment is.

 

[Hugo]

$$$ Indiana and Purdue make 2.5x as much money from TV as ND does.

But, I would wager that ND has a endowment of at LEAST 2.5 times that of Purdue and Indiana combined and probably significantly more.

 

[ctchamps]

But, I would wager that ND has a endowment of at LEAST 2.5 times that of Purdue and Indiana combined and probably significantly more.

Better not. Purdue (1.683 billion) + Indiana (1.371) = (3.054 billion) x 2.5 = (7.635 billion) which is > than (5.525 billion) the ND endowment.

Michigan leads the conference with (6.564 billion) Northwestern with (5.945 billion) and Minnesota with (2.195 billion)

UConn has (255 million) and it explains why President Herbst wants to see this increased.

 

[Hugo]

Better not. Purdue (1.683 billion) + Indiana (1.371) = (3.054 billion) x 2.5 = (7.635 billion) which is > than (5.525 billion) the ND endowment.

Michigan leads the conference with (6.564 billion) Northwestern with (5.945 billion) and Minnesota with (2.195 billion)

UConn has (255 million) and it explains why President Herbst wants to see this increased.

Definitely an eye-opener. I'm impressed with both Purdue and Indiana, but even moreso with Michigan and Northwestern having larger endowments than ND. Also very surprised how low UCONN's is. Any idea how UCONN conpares to say UMass, URI, UNH, VT and UMaine ??

 

[arnie3]

UConn had its highest donations this year of $50 million which brought the endowment to $329 million. Herbst and her husband donated $100,000 for a humanities scholarship.

 

[ctchamps]

Endowments:

UMass ( 199,876,589)
URI (73 million)
UNH (238 million)
Vermont (272 million)
Maine (123 million)

Texas (14.1 Billion)
Texas A&M (5.1 billion)
Vanderbilt (3.3 billion) - not one team in the B12 or SEC with less endowment than UConn
Duke (5.7 billion)

As a conference no one beats the Ivy League
Harvard (27.557 BAZILLION)
Yale (16.652 Billion)
Princeton (14.391 Billion)
Columbia (6.517 Billion)
University of Pennsylvania (5.669 Billion)
Cornell (4.379 billion)
Dartmouth (2.998 billion)
Brown (2.155 billion)

Other Huge endowments:
Stanford (13.851 Billion)
MIT ( 8.317 Billion)

 

[jibsey]

OMG, with the market dropping there is tons being lost from those endowments (and our pensions). That's a billion off the Irish. Thank goodness we don't have as much to lose!

 

[Hugo]

Endowments:

UMass ( 199,876,589)
URI (73 million)
UNH (238 million)
Vermont (272 million)
Maine (123 million)

Texas (14.1 Billion)
Texas A&M (5.1 billion)
Vanderbilt (3.3 billion) - not one team in the B12 or SEC with less endowment than UConn
Duke (5.7 billion)
Fleudslipcon, thanks for the research. Impressive numbers for some of these universities.
As a conference no one beats the Ivy League
Harvard (27.557 BAZILLION)
Yale (16.652 Billion)
Princeton (14.391 Billion)
Columbia (6.517 Billion)
University of Pennsylvania (5.669 Billion)
Cornell (4.379 billion)
Dartmouth (2.998 billion)
Brown (2.155 billion)

Other Huge endowments:
Stanford (13.851 Billion)
MIT ( 8.317 Billion)

Thanks for the research. Impressive numbers for some of these universities.